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1. KD 2.RW 3Thabo 4.serge 5 Perkins 6Thabeet 7Maynor 8Jackson 9Kmart 10 Lamb 11Collison 12. PJ3 13Orton 14Liggins 15Rautins or Thompson.....
I'm totally psyched. This rocks.
I'm thinking a second unit of Maynor, Kmart, Lamb, PJ3, and Nicky. I like.
Kmart's Defensive Chops will undoubtedly improve with the Thunder no doubt. Often it is a system thing. Ray Allen and Luke Ridnour were always considered terrible defenders till they went to Boston and Milwaukee respectively. Their defensive numbers and bonafides each improved dramatically. Rashard Lewis also when he went to Orlando.
Same will happen with Kmart and OKC.
@MisterJohnsonOKC We will see. We spanked AZ 49-0 a few weeks ago, and number 9 USC just got rolled by them. We will see.
Big Harden fan here, but I love this trade. We won't miss a beat.
Poor Harden will miss the playoffs though.
You don't sign, you get shipped... Just ask J.Green and J. Harden....
Woooooowwwwwwwww
Hollis Thompson will probably make the Opening day roster is this is who goes to camp and nobody else is added. Shot over 40% from three in college all three years. He's probably the best shooter on the roster. But, we still need to see him hit that corner three with the likes of Durant, or Shane Battier or Lebron closing out on him.
Ok, I am here in Oregon so I don't know all of the ins and outs of what's down in the Southwest there, but would it be possible for a group to put together a regional superpower station to rival what the Lakers and NYK have? Something like a Thunder/Sooners/something else superstation and sell the rights? Or how about Thunder/San Antonio, where all of the games are staggered by start times and telvised as a sort of regional sports superchannel? Maybe Thunder/Dallas? Maybe ? See what Im saying here?
There's really two kinds of Centers in this league, offensively unskilled guys who play position defense and block some shots, and the more offensively skilled guys who can roll and pop and have something less to offer on D. There are a few who possess attributes of both types, those are rare and make a whole lot of money and are hard to find. We have two of the former in Cole and Perk. We have one who is old who possesses some traits of both to a diminishing degree in Nazr, and we used to have two of the latter in Mullens and Nenad.
If we were to sign Thabeet, we would have three of the defensive minded, offensively limited types. That to me is putting all the eggs in one basket and would result in teams playing off our center defensively like we saw in the finals, where MIami would not guard Perk. We didn't make them pay, they won the series. That they didn't have to guard Perk made us less efficient on offense and them much more efficient on D.
If we are going to sign a third Center, I would much rather us sign a D leaguer or an undrafted project who posesses some of the offensive traits so AT LEAST IN PRACTICE we can learn to defend a pick and pop Center, and possibly he could help us for a few spot minutes stretching the defense from the five position. Those guys are out there.
@Crow God he's made enough money and had enough success by now. He's in his 60's and has had cancer twice I think. I would think he would just take it year to year.
But, it also seems that these coaching lifers get bored quick in retirement. Look at Jerry Sloan wanting to come back, Phil Jackson, Larry Brown etc. Few of them go away and don't want to come back.
They need to find fulfilling hobbies LOL
@DXL I disagree with some of that. I'm not a stats nerd, but I follow stats pretty closely and I can say that Harden was a top shelf stat hog in college for a shooting guard. Aldrich also was very good statistically and historically for the Center position coming out of college. But I agree with you on the rest.
@Old Man Game Yeah, I think that's where he needs to be. The $16/4 year deal mentioned above still has him slightly below that level at only 4 mil per season. So, I am guessing the Thunder are just trying to get the best deal they can get. But really they need to give Brooks that last half mil per year to be at a fair price to my way of thinking.
But Carlisle just signed a new deal in May, and I can't find out what it was for, so I am going off his old numbers. But Carlisle has been successful everywhere he has been.
Scott Skiles and Byron Scott have had SOME success, but have also flamed out before.
Rick Adelman is at 5 mil, and I think he's superior to Brooks, same with Doc, and Pop, both over 5, but Brooks needs to be paid AT LEAST with the Flip Saunders/Scott Skiles/Byron Scotts of the game. Which means $4.5 mil.
I agree with Justin-Mia. It is what it is. There are certainly things about Brooks which I wish were improved, but there are a whole lot of things he does which maybe nobody could do better with this group. There are compromises with every situation. If we went with someone else, he may be a slightly better x's O's guy in the playoffs, but he may flame out with the personnel after a year or two and the players could tune him out, like I hear is happening in Philly with Doug Collins, or has happened in Orlando with SVG.
George Karl once said that he thinks its good for coaches to move around every 4 or 5 years because if the players stay the same they need to hear a new voice.
So you would love improvement, but you don't want to throw all the good out with the little bad that Brooks brings.
That being said, in these two lists I could find of coaches salaries, Brooks should be getting somewhere starting at 4.5$. It's variously reported that guys like Scott Skiles, Nate McMillan, George karl and Rick Carlisle and even Flip Saunders are in the 4.5-5.5 Million range. Also Mike Brown is at 4.5 and Byron Scott too. Brooks can legitimately argue that his salary should be above that of Skiles and Nate, and at the level of Mike Brown, George Karl, and Rick Carlisle, all of which have coached in the finals and have had multi 50 win seasons as has Brooks.
The market is what it is.
http://weaksideawareness.wordpress.com/2011/06/09/salary-and-contracts-of-nba-coaches/
This will never happen. No way. James Harden was a better prospect three years ago, and hes a better product now. No way BB becomes a better player than James.