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1 week ago on Thunder assistant coach Brian Keefe joining Knicks

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@Crow Hey Crow!! Great to hear from you!  How are ya?'


I was really happy for the Blazers--especially since the Thunder didn't have to tangle with them in the playoffs. I love the old Sonic connection of Terry Stotts as coach. 


I'm not sold on them as a top tier team, but more of a middling playoff team; much like the Rockets, but anything can happen in a series. Many of my co workers love the Blazers; but most are pretty realistic about where they are at now. 


Love the Morrow signing



1 week, 2 days ago on Thunder agree to deal with Anthony Morrow

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Very much like an improved Daequan Cook. Good signing.


1 week, 2 days ago on What the Thunder are adding in Anthony Morrow

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Much like the Daequan Cook signing year ago (actually it was a trade). There were times Brooks used him very much, and times he used him very little. But Brooks did use him alongside James Harden with Russ and KD fairly extensively from time to time. 


He's the shooter we didn't have last year, and haven't had since Kmart, and before him Daequan. Lamb is still a question mark until he proves he can get it done. And he can't prove that if coach doesn't play him. 

1 week, 2 days ago on Thunder agree to deal with Anthony Morrow

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The Irony of it is my point. 

11 months, 3 weeks ago on Report: Thunder sign Ryan Gomes to one-year deal

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my point was the irony of it.

11 months, 3 weeks ago on Report: Thunder sign Ryan Gomes to one-year deal

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What I find funny, is that 3 or 4 years ago, here on Daily Thunder, when Jeff Green was still our starting PF, we were all afraid that Presti was going to resign JG to a long term contract and keep the Green/Durant/Westbrook/Harden foursome as the core. We were all having conversations about how much (or little) Green was worth.  One of the players he was compared to then was Ryan Gomes, also Anthony Tolliver and Marvin Williams....LMAO


You know, stretch fours, with the bodies and game of a three, who don't rebound well and shoot too many threes, and don't shoot them all that well?

11 months, 3 weeks ago on Report: Thunder sign Ryan Gomes to one-year deal

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Crow is a wizard!!

He's always been a wizard, even back in the Sonic days!!

11 months, 4 weeks ago on Serge Ibaka thinks he’ll be an All-Star soon

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That vid gave me a little semi.....


11 months, 4 weeks ago on Saturday Morning Cartoons: Are we there yet?

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#15 haunts me to no end.

1 year ago on Thunder Player Power Rankings: Post-Summer League edition

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Rofl....thanks. At least somebody gets that this lingo thing isn't exactly clear.

1 year ago on The Side Part: ThaBro’s Fourth of July Country Jubilee Gathering of Dopeness

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The last sentence says to "say what's real"  So here's what's real:  I have no idea what the hell this article was about or what it was trying to convey.  Perhaps I'm dense, or not hip enough, but this side part column baffles me.  

1 year ago on The Side Part: ThaBro’s Fourth of July Country Jubilee Gathering of Dopeness

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 @Jooseppi Neither, just counting roster spots.

1 year, 8 months ago on Thunder trade James Harden to Houston

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1. KD 2.RW  3Thabo   4.serge  5 Perkins 6Thabeet  7Maynor  8Jackson  9Kmart 10 Lamb 11Collison  12. PJ3  13Orton  14Liggins  15Rautins or Thompson.....

1 year, 8 months ago on Thunder trade James Harden to Houston

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I'm totally psyched. This rocks. 

1 year, 8 months ago on Thunder trade James Harden to Houston

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 @f5alcon I bet not. 

1 year, 8 months ago on Thunder trade James Harden to Houston

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I'm thinking a second unit of Maynor, Kmart, Lamb, PJ3, and Nicky.  I like. 

1 year, 8 months ago on Thunder trade James Harden to Houston

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 @shiki It's a system. Five guys. That's my point. 

1 year, 8 months ago on Thunder trade James Harden to Houston

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Kmart's Defensive Chops will undoubtedly improve with the Thunder no doubt.  Often it is a system thing.  Ray Allen and Luke Ridnour were always considered terrible defenders till they went to Boston and Milwaukee respectively. Their defensive numbers and bonafides each improved dramatically. Rashard Lewis also when he went to Orlando. 

 

Same will happen with Kmart and OKC. 

1 year, 8 months ago on Thunder trade James Harden to Houston

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 @MisterJohnsonOKC We will see. We spanked AZ 49-0 a few weeks ago, and number 9 USC just got rolled by them.   We will see. 

1 year, 8 months ago on Thunder trade James Harden to Houston

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 @qrex Agreed. 

 

1 year, 8 months ago on Thunder trade James Harden to Houston

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Big Harden fan here, but I love this trade. We won't miss a beat. 

 

Poor Harden will miss the playoffs though.

1 year, 8 months ago on Thunder trade James Harden to Houston

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You don't sign, you get shipped... Just ask J.Green and J. Harden....

1 year, 8 months ago on Thunder trade James Harden to Houston

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Woooooowwwwwwwww

1 year, 8 months ago on Thunder trade James Harden to Houston

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Hollis Thompson will probably make the Opening day roster is this is who goes to camp and nobody else is added. Shot over 40% from three in college all three years. He's probably the best shooter on the roster. But, we still need to see him hit that corner three with the likes of Durant, or Shane Battier or Lebron closing out on him. 

1 year, 10 months ago on #ThunderRank: 18-11

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Ok, I am here in Oregon so I don't know all of the ins and outs of what's down in the Southwest there, but would it be possible for a group to put together a regional superpower station to rival what the Lakers and NYK have? Something like a Thunder/Sooners/something else superstation and sell the rights? Or how about Thunder/San Antonio, where all of the games are staggered by start times and telvised as a sort of regional sports superchannel?  Maybe Thunder/Dallas?  Maybe ?  See what Im saying here? 

1 year, 10 months ago on What are these ‘challenges’ the Thunder face?

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There's really two kinds of Centers in this league, offensively unskilled guys who play position defense and block some shots, and the more offensively skilled guys who can roll and pop and have something less to offer on D. There are a few who possess attributes of both types, those are rare and make a whole lot of money and are hard to find. We have two of the former in Cole and Perk. We have one who is old who possesses some traits of both to a diminishing degree in Nazr, and we used to have two of the latter in Mullens and Nenad.

 

If we were to sign Thabeet, we would have three of the defensive minded, offensively limited types. That to me is putting all the eggs in one basket and would result in teams playing off our center defensively like we saw in the finals, where MIami would not guard Perk. We didn't make them pay, they won the series. That they didn't have to guard Perk made us less efficient on offense and them much more efficient on D.

 

If we are going to sign a third Center, I would much rather us sign a D leaguer or an undrafted project who posesses some of the offensive traits so AT LEAST IN PRACTICE we can learn to defend a pick and pop Center, and possibly he could help us for a few spot minutes stretching the defense from the five position. Those guys are out there.  

2 years ago on OKC the ‘most likely’ landing spot for Hasheem Thabeet?

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 @Crow God he's made enough money and had enough success by now. He's in his 60's and has had cancer twice I think. I would think he would just take it year to year. 

 

But, it also seems that these coaching lifers get bored quick in retirement. Look at Jerry Sloan wanting to come back, Phil Jackson, Larry Brown etc.   Few of them go away and don't want to come back.

 

They need to find fulfilling hobbies LOL

2 years ago on Scott Brooks closing in on new contract with the Thunder

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 @DXL I disagree with some of that. I'm not a stats nerd, but I follow stats pretty closely and I can say that Harden was a top shelf stat hog in college for a shooting guard. Aldrich also was very good statistically and historically for the Center position coming out of college.  But I agree with you on the rest. 

2 years ago on Scott Brooks closing in on new contract with the Thunder

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 @Old Man Game Yeah, I think that's where he needs to be. The $16/4 year deal mentioned above still has him slightly below that level at only 4 mil per season. So, I am guessing the Thunder are just trying to get the best deal they can get. But really they need to give Brooks that last half mil per year to be at a fair price to my way of thinking. 

 

But Carlisle just signed a new deal in May, and I can't find out what it was for, so I am going off his old numbers. But Carlisle has been successful everywhere he has been.

 

Scott Skiles and Byron Scott have had SOME success, but have also flamed out before. 

 

Rick Adelman is at 5 mil, and I think he's superior to Brooks, same with Doc, and Pop, both over 5, but Brooks needs to be paid AT LEAST  with the Flip Saunders/Scott Skiles/Byron Scotts of the game. Which means $4.5 mil.

2 years ago on Scott Brooks closing in on new contract with the Thunder

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I agree with Justin-Mia. It is what it is. There are certainly things about Brooks which I wish were improved, but there are a whole lot of things he does which maybe nobody could do better with this group. There are compromises with every situation. If we went with someone else, he may be a slightly better x's O's guy in the playoffs, but he may flame out with the personnel after a year or two and the players could tune him out, like I hear is happening in Philly with Doug Collins, or has happened in Orlando with SVG.

 

George Karl once said that he thinks its good for coaches to move around every 4 or 5 years because if the players stay the same they need to hear a new voice.

 

So you would love improvement, but you don't want to throw all the good out with the little bad that Brooks brings.

 

That being said, in these two lists I could find of coaches salaries, Brooks should be getting somewhere starting at 4.5$. It's variously reported that guys like Scott Skiles, Nate McMillan, George karl and Rick Carlisle and even Flip Saunders are in the 4.5-5.5 Million range. Also Mike Brown is at 4.5 and Byron Scott too.  Brooks can legitimately argue that his salary should be above that of Skiles and Nate, and at the level of Mike Brown, George Karl, and Rick Carlisle, all of which have coached in the finals and have had multi 50 win seasons as has Brooks.

 

The market is what it is.

http://weaksideawareness.wordpress.com/2011/06/09/salary-and-contracts-of-nba-coaches/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2012/03/14/nbas-highest-paid-coaches-loses-dantoni-as-member/

2 years ago on Scott Brooks closing in on new contract with the Thunder

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This will never happen. No way. James Harden was a better prospect three years ago, and hes a better product now. No way BB becomes a better player than James. 

2 years ago on Thunder have talked about moving up to get Bradley Beal

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 @Crow This goes back to the discussion we've all had for the last 3 or 4 seasons, about the pairing of power and finesse players on the frontline.

 

Ibaka and Perkins are both power players. Green and Nenad are both finesse players. We never had the privilege of seeing a pairing of a finesse 5 such as Nenad, with the power play of Ibaka.

 

I think all things considered, Perk has value for sure, but it would be nice to have a player with some of Nenad's skill off the bench to pair with Ibaka. You could have the best of both worlds, instead of a sort of replication of skills. 

 

2 years ago on Five thoughts on the Thunder’s draft pick

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 @Tronchaser  @MisterJohnsonOKC Maybe we will see you guys in a bowl this year and put an end to it...... I think you guys will be or are ranked higher in preseason polls though.  

2 years ago on Five thoughts on the Thunder’s draft pick

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 @Tronchaser  @MisterJohnsonOKC That was soooo four years ago.  LOL

 

2 years ago on Five thoughts on the Thunder’s draft pick

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I found myself in the Finals missing the abilities of not Jeff Green, but Nenad Krstic.   We could have done a whole lot more on offense if we had somebody who could actually hit that Pop shot after setting the screen. We know Perk can't hit it, and they didn't run it with Colly much, and for whatever reason Ibaka wasn't hitting it. And behind those guys you have Cole who can't and Nazr who is eligible for social security.

 

I think a big man that can play the 4-5 and hit that shot, and not have hands of stone on the roll (Ibaka) would be just as helpful as a stretch 4. 

 

That wouldn't have helped us much against San Antonio, but definitely against the Lakers and Miami. In the Lakers series it would have helped pull Bynum out of the paint.

2 years ago on Five thoughts on the Thunder’s draft pick

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 @Crow Ha ha....I would've been fired a long time ago :O)

2 years, 1 month ago on Thunder at Heat: Game 4 Pregame Primer

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Ok, I'm near the top so here is my take on what needs to happen tonight:

 

The Thunder need to get KD and RW involved in the pick and roll together. They've done it in the past and it's hard to guard, but for whatever reason not so much lately.  As you know, the Heat Blitz or trap the PNR and blow it up. Leaving Russ few options to pass to. He has hands of stone Ibaka, or no jump shot Perk. Bad choices. But if we get KD as the screener it opens up everything. He can set and roll,  He can set and pop, he can slip, he can roll, get the catch and hit the corner guy for the three because he is a good passer. All of the stuff Ibaka and Perk cannot do. (FWIW, Collison can do some of this, but he is used usually with Harden)

 

Oh, and hit the free throws. Sounds simple, but I think if we use the 1-3 PNR instead off the 1-4 or 1-5  it would open up everything. The defense that Miami is running is geared to blow up the ball handler, so RW needs to relax on trying to split it, just make the pass to the roll, pop or slipping KD.

 

I feel good about tonight.

2 years, 1 month ago on Thunder at Heat: Game 4 Pregame Primer

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Well. I am a longtime Sonic Fan, since the 80's and I've never had a second thought about continuing my "fandom" when the team moved ( I haven't lived in Seattle in years). I've seen boom and bust with this team many times over.

 

Tonight is really special. It's been sixteen years for me since my team has been to this point. I thought when we had coach Karl, and Payton and Kemp and Hersey and Det that we would be in this position year after year, but it didn't happen that way. So cherish this baby.

 

I hope we get a nice long, fat dynasty to feast on starting tonight!!!

2 years, 1 month ago on Heat vs. Thunder: Game 1 Pregame Primer

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Both Spro and Brooks have historically been viewed as being "outcoached" in previous series. I wonder how that narrative will go now, with both coaches having got their teams past teams with coaches who have superior reputations. 

 

Likely it will be viewed as neither coach is all that great....they just have superior players. LOL

2 years, 1 month ago on Thunder will play the Heat: Full NBA Finals schedule

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 @Crow Hi Crow. 

 

It's funny about the posts. Really I don't have much to say that isn't being said. Royce and the guys here really are doing a superlative job. This group of commenters here have gotten so sharp. Quite a difference from three years ago when so many were new to the NBA. 

 

A very informed group of writers and audience.

2 years, 3 months ago on Thunder drop their third straight, 103-98 to the Pacers

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"Harden does not do a good job closing out shooters. A lot of his contests are half-hearted with him just sort of raising a hand on the shot. He doesn’t challenge shooters. He sags off just a bit too much and doesn’t recover. In OKC’s comeback, he was late closing out on Danny Granger and George Hill a couple times, which were costly."

 

Not only that, but when guarding the man in the corner, he hedges over so far that his foot is touching the paint, and then he just watches the ball. That's high school crap right there. I don't know how many times I've seen that corner guy cut to the rim for an easy dunk because Harden never turned his head to actually watch the guy he was supposed to be guarding. He has to do both, not just one. 

 

Harden is a lazy defender more often than not.

2 years, 3 months ago on Thunder drop their third straight, 103-98 to the Pacers

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That's Jon Barry, not Brent.

2 years, 4 months ago on Monday Bolts - 2.27.12

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@D@nny@nny I just checked--K.Love shoots poorly out there as well. I guess it's just perception on my part. :O)

2 years, 5 months ago on Thunder at Clippers: Pregame Primer

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@D@nny Actually, I think Blake takes a lot of bad shots regardless of who he is playing. He takes about 5 of his almost 17 shots per game out beyond 10 feet where he shoots around 33%. Its a good strategy to get him into a midrange, deep two shooting groove cuz he's no good out there. Don't tell him that, he keeps shooting them and thinks he gets fouled on every touch. I really don't like watching him.

I much prefer K.Love among the young PF's.

2 years, 5 months ago on Thunder at Clippers: Pregame Primer

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Just looking at head to head matchups over their careers: RW0 has most certainly been outplayed by Chauncey almost every time they've been matched up. Mr.Big shot just seems to come out better statistically.

Surprisingly, statistically RW0 does better against Chris Paul. When Paul was having a great game, RW0 was having one right along with him. Granted in both cases the Thunder as a team has lost most of these games, but they weren't very good back in 2008 and 2009; and Russ as a very young guy is being compared to more seasoned veterans, but I don't think RW takes a back seat to either one now.

2 years, 5 months ago on Thunder at Clippers: Pregame Primer

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I had forgotten about that pass. But yes. I had very high hopes for Luke as being the next Steve Nash; especially after watching him blow it up at Oregon. Good times. Loved that playoff run.

2 years, 5 months ago on Thunder at Warriors: Pregame Primer

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I agree completely with the premise of this post.

It's said that a good supervisors primary job is to give his employees the tools they need to be as successful as possible. In this case, Presti is the supervisor, and the tools are the nurturing environment with the right amount of motivation and discipline (without being too giving or too lax). The coaching staff are part of this as well.

It's also said that a supervisor gets the crew he deserves. Hence, when the top guy is a knucklehead (I'm talking about you Isaiah Thomas, David Khan etc), you get knuckleheads for a crew. Our guy at the top isn't a knucklehead.

2 years, 5 months ago on The Thunder and ‘Royal Jelly’

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I saw the Thunder vs GSW last season in Oracle. We were heavily favored and rolling at the time.OOOOPs. Overlooked them a bit I'd say.

2 years, 5 months ago on Thunder at Warriors: Pregame Primer

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Nice words about KD from former, one time Sonic Eddie Johnson. He had a sweet stroke like KD.

2 years, 5 months ago on Thursday Bolts - 1.26.12

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I thought this game was on at 7 Eastern, and that is what is up on this pregame write up, but now I see on NBA.com it's listed as 8 Eastern?

2 years, 6 months ago on Thunder at Celtics: Pregame Primer

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Bummer. I would go with Ivey, and slowly get RJ's feet wet in spot minutes, after explaining to him that his role is that of a PG, not a gunner. That needs to be clear to him. He needs to be a facilitator first and a shooter last; and he has to be cognizant of the shot clock.

I think Ivey can fill that role, with a little bit more Harden.

Although, in hindsight, Both Maynor and Westbrook got good minutes as rookies; there is no reason RJ can't as well.

This is the first major injury for the Thunder since Desmond Mason.

2 years, 6 months ago on Eric Maynor out for remainder of the season with torn right ACL

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So bummed about Maynor.

2 years, 6 months ago on Thunder dig themselves out of a hole in Houston, 98-95

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@f5alcon

A few minutes after replying to you that our PNR sucks, I found this.

http://hoopspeak.com/2012/01/thunder-pick-and-roll-sputtering-settling-for-jumpers/

2 years, 6 months ago on What changed in the Thunder’s two losses?

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@Stringer Bell@f5alcon

Agreed. But too bad we only use one little part of it most of the time...as in Russell keeps the ball. His usage is too high imo.

2 years, 6 months ago on What changed in the Thunder’s two losses?

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@f5alcon Oh, I'm not saying it doesn't, but when the guy running it wants to shoot it nearly all the time, or drive it, the pick and roll loses half it's value. The idea that you have to have two guys defending two others, when one may shoot, drive, or drive and then hit the roller, or hit the roller as he stops and pops or re-screen etc means that there are options. But if only one or two of many are used, the effectiveness of the PNR is diminished.

How in the world do you think that RW has the leagues third highest usage? He's right below notable ball hogs Carmelo and Kobe, and above KD. He is calling his own number too much.

That is all. Running the PNR is a beautiful thing, but not the way we run it most of the time. Harden runs it well; especially with Collison.

Russ.....no.

2 years, 6 months ago on What changed in the Thunder’s two losses?

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I think our offensive style has glaring weaknesses. Simply, we run in transition, which is fine. Then in the half court we use a single screen mostly and the ball handler almost always keeps the ball and drives or shoots. When is the last time you saw somebody roll and get the pass? Hardly ever.

The other thing we do a lot of is just simple isos. If we don't make the shot, and we don't go to the line we get nothing. And so that is almost our whole offense.

Our threes usually come from the drive and dish variety (again, usually a ball handler gets one screen, and he drives and kicks to a corner shooter). If they don't fall, they don't.

What I'm saying is that we have the most vanilla offense I've seen. If we didn't have three superior basketball players, we would be terrible.

Seriously, we need a different offensive identity. We need some off the ball cuts, some double screens and more pin downs and such. Run the Flex. Run the Princeton. Anything has got to be better than this.

2 years, 6 months ago on What changed in the Thunder’s two losses?

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Royce, I just don't understand this sentence: " Felton is suggesting that winning the game comes second behind winning the individual matchup.

Is it me, or does that just contradict what he was quoted as saying up above?"

2 years, 6 months ago on Raymond Felton says Russell Westbrook isn’t a team player

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I'm confused. Royce....aren't you still like just 23? LOL

2 years, 6 months ago on This whole thing was about Thabo Sefolosha

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Watching Mullens nail a couple of deep jumpers for the Bobcats right now.

When he stands next to Bismark Biyombo, he is at least 4 inches taller. I thought BB was a 7 footer?

2 years, 7 months ago on The Thunder’s super important offseason developments

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@Grolgar I saw him in College, as many did, being on Kansas that got a lot of exposure. Cole will always look stiff and mechanical on offense will be my guess, much like Kendrick Perkins. They're just not ever going to be two way players.

But the good news is that Tyson Chandler just proved that a defense only center can win a championship, and is a very important part of good team defense the way it's played in these days NBA. Kendrick Perkins also proved it 3 years ago.

2 years, 7 months ago on Mavericks vs. Thunder: Preseason Pregame Primer

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@TreyFiveOnMyBack I love your Gravatar. That's slick!

2 years, 7 months ago on DT Season Preview: 10 season storylines to watch

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@DXL Here it is: Ryan Reid of the Tulsa 66ers also probably deserves a shout-out in this little segment. The Tulsa 66ers big man is averaging a rather modest 11.8 points and 8.9 rebounds in the D-League, but his size and strength make him at least worthy of a training camp invite. Reid was a second round pick of the Oklahoma City Thunder a couple of seasons ago, however, meaning they would lose his rights if he were invited to camp and then cut -- necessitating him staying at home in the D-League.

From Ridiculous upside blog.

2 years, 7 months ago on Thunder trade Byron Mullens to Charlotte for second round pick

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@DXL I read somewhere, can't find it now, that if Ryan Reid gets invited to camp, but doesn't make the team, the Thunder lose his rights. Part of the new CBA.

I don't think were in any jeopardy of losing anything of great substance here... just saying.

2 years, 7 months ago on Thunder trade Byron Mullens to Charlotte for second round pick

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So now the Cats have Mullens, D.J.White and Rich Cho. It's like the Thunder's little bastard half brother.

2 years, 7 months ago on Thunder trade Byron Mullens to Charlotte for second round pick

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Our offense is pretty vanilla. I think it's mostly ball screens and drive and dish. The only two reasons we were top 5 on offense were the lob and our talent. This same offense on the Timberwolves wouldn't go anywhere.

It's all about the talent really.

2 years, 7 months ago on Oklahoma City and the Triangle

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firstrowsports.tv

2 years, 7 months ago on Oklahoma City and the Triangle

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I like it. The rule changes are good. It is really unwatchable sometimes when a player (Russ included) gets a shadow call at the rim and the action stops for free throws.

It's good. While it will take away one aspect of what's been good for the Thunder, by the same token, we fouled other teams 10th most in the league, so that should drop and make up some of the slack.

2 years, 7 months ago on How the NBA’s rule changes affect the Thunder

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I don't think any team taking on Mullens and or Nate will be a "must do" item any time soon, what with the compressed training camps and free agency periods.

Those two guys really won't help a team win many games.

2 years, 7 months ago on Monday Bolts - 12.5.11

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I think Battier is like a luxury car when a nice sub-compact will do. We really don't need Battier, and I agree that Brooks might use him more than is warranted because of his stature and status as a NBA veteran.

I would I think prefer the Thunder to get a player like Reggie Williams (who is restricted and has a 1 million QO with Golden State), or a Steve Novak (free agent) who can bomb off the bench and contribute for short minutes, to balance the fact that Thabo is going to be on the second unit....hopefully.

I could see the Thunder running Maynor, Thabo, DaeQuan, Novak, Nazr (or Nick) or something like that. If Battier was on the second squad with Thabo....sheesh. Maynor and Daequan are the only scorers.

2 years, 7 months ago on Thunder not pursuing Battier yet?

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@JeffAllen I've had it for the last 5 years or so--the cable version. But this year I am going to try the Broadband only option, which was first available last year. The cable version was $169 dollars I believe. I think the broadband is a bit less, and the overall price may be less for both this year since the season is shortened. Does that answer your question?

2 years, 7 months ago on Wednesday Bolts - 11.30.11

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@Steve H Interesting. Hoopshype, where I was looking made no such distinction.

Thanks.

2 years, 7 months ago on Report: Thunder and Nate Robinson working on a buyout

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@okcjim I like it. Don't know if it's legal. In fact I'd bet it's not, but I also know that Karl Malone and John Stockton got into the car dealership business....Which then team owner Larry Miller dominated in SLC for years. Interesting eh?

But more to point. If Russ makes 14 mill per year on average for 5 years, instead of 15.5 or so, I believe it can be explained to him that that extra 7.5 mill he is sacrificing will more than be made up in endorsements if he is continually on a winning playoff team, and as an aside, one way to keep the team winning is to use that extra 7.5 mill on signing top notch players to fill out the roster so that the team is stocked with them ....a circle.

To me that is reasonable. If the pot needs to be sweetened, you can offer him a trade kicker, or an ETO after a few years or something to ease his mind that the Thunder WILL BE ABOUT WINNING and the money will be used to keep the roster stocked.

2 years, 7 months ago on 3-on-3: First things first

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I think it's a smart move, because what it says is that Presti wants to add someone specific to the roster. Looking forward to that.

And another thing: Where does it say that Ivey's contract isn't guaranteed for this season? I've not read that anywhere?

2 years, 7 months ago on Report: Thunder and Nate Robinson working on a buyout

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You never get if you don't ask. LOL

2 years, 7 months ago on Report: Boston offered Rondo and Green for Perk and Westbrook

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@imb42 I know ha ha....I was hoping.

2 years, 7 months ago on Video: The Thunder return to Seattle

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@[censored] I've always liked the Rhino.

2 years, 7 months ago on A Thunder free agency primer

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@dollarbillrussell@Daniel Ha ha... I wouldn't think ordinarily that "odd, and depressing" would be good endorsements. :O)

2 years, 7 months ago on Monday Bolts - 11.28.11

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@Old Man Game I'm pretty sure LP has always been the regular season only. The NBA farms out it's playoff games to a few different broadcasters, who pay for the rights to televise. I had to watch all the playoff games last year on TNT, TBS, CBS, ESPN or NBAtv even though I had LP through Direct tv.

Im not 100 percent sure of that, but that's the way it was last year. The reason I decided to go LP Broadband is because they just recently began offering the LP broadband as a standalone product separate from Cable, and because I found most of the playoff games last year streamed at TNT's site, or ESPN 3 or whatever.

Hope that helps/

2 years, 7 months ago on All is forgiven with merciful end of NBA lockout

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@DaveSiegerExpress I cut it too.

ESPN 3 is pretty good. And Firstrow sports has a whole lot of streams for sports. I'm going to either get the full NBA or maybe the 7 team deal. I do like to watch other teams when I have the time.

2 years, 7 months ago on All is forgiven with merciful end of NBA lockout

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@Old Man Game Yeah, I noticed the TNT thing. That was one concern I had last year. The LP doesn't include playoff games, so you need to get it from TNT, and CBS and ESPN I think. Also NBAtv. Last year most of those games were streamed, hopefully as well this year, because I cut the cable also.

2 years, 7 months ago on All is forgiven with merciful end of NBA lockout

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@JimboSlice Did you get the whole league broadband, or just the seven teams option?

2 years, 7 months ago on All is forgiven with merciful end of NBA lockout

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@[censored] Do you know if they have that two price structure? I heard something about where the LP Broadband had two packages. One was all the games, the other was where you picked 7 teams and got all the games for those 7 teams for a lesser price? Does that sound familiar?

2 years, 7 months ago on All is forgiven with merciful end of NBA lockout

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@[censored] Yeah. That's what I'm gonna do. Hoop up the Laptop with the HDMI cord. But what is cool, according to the NBA site is that the games are all archived and have a dVR type feature where if I get home and the game is already started, I can just watch it from the start. Pause it live or whatever. Sounds great.

2 years, 7 months ago on All is forgiven with merciful end of NBA lockout

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@JimboSlice I use a Dell Laptop. It's less than a year old. I think it should be good. I use the HDMI cable to hook it up to the TV and it works pretty well on ESPN 3 streams.

I think the Broadband only version was first introduced last year. Prior to that you had to get LP through a cable or dish subscriber.

2 years, 7 months ago on All is forgiven with merciful end of NBA lockout

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I'm going to try the League Pass Broadband this year for the first time. I've done regular League Pass on cable for the last 5 years, but the broadband allows me to cut the cable. Hopefully it works sweet.

2 years, 7 months ago on All is forgiven with merciful end of NBA lockout

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@Keith00 The thing that jumps out at me with Battier is that if he is on our roster, JH has to be able to hold his own on defense against the Kobes and Ginoblis of the NBA, because I don't see Thabo and Battier on the court at the same time and Battier is around 6'9" and is a little long in the tooth to guard shooting guards.

So I could see him (Battier) playing SF, sliding KD over to PF and playing fast and small with RW, JH, SB, KD and Collison or Ibaka. That would be a pretty fast, hot, and still defensively competent lineup I think.

2 years, 7 months ago on Monday Bolts - 11.28.11

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@Lambchop The Road was the most depressing, odd book I've read in years....can't imagine anything about that book being happy 'cept watching it burn in a barrel. LOL

2 years, 7 months ago on Monday Bolts - 11.28.11

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@Jax Raging Bile Duct@BirdTerrifier I did that. In fact, I even had an email back and forth with LIvefyre tech support. The problem is that the username JOE is taken? Whateva!

Thanks anyway.

2 years, 7 months ago on Under new CBA, Westbrook could make more than Durant

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@JimboSlice Send him to the Lakers...that way there will be three PG's on their roster that can't stay in front of Russell. LOL

2 years, 7 months ago on Monday Bolts - 11.28.11

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I'd love to see Nate Robinson Cut or traded to acquire a roster spot for Shane Battier. He's not what he once was, but he is still a solid NBA defender, wise locker room sage and professional. In the Playoffs last year Battier was a +4 player for Memphis and a +2 during the season. Regardless the team, offense is better when he's in the game and defenses are better when he's in.

2 years, 7 months ago on Monday Bolts - 11.28.11

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@Keith00@JimboSlice@Hermit@gnaygg

Yaaaaaayy. We're finally back to having substantive basketball discussion here!!!

2 years, 7 months ago on Under new CBA, Westbrook could make more than Durant

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@JimboSlice@Hermit@gnaygg It's been 3 seasons since he was a net positive adjusted +/- player. So he is still young and has it in him to be a decent player, but he's been traded the last two seasons, to the Celts, and then to us, and that has probably messed with his development. I hope good things for him though. He seems like a popular guy in the clubhouse.

2 years, 7 months ago on Under new CBA, Westbrook could make more than Durant

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@JimboSlice@Hermit@gnaygg A big article today in the LA times about how the Lakers are scouring the likely amnestied players and how bad they need a PG. I guess Nate is somewhat of a PG. He's not any worse than Baron Davis I guess.

2 years, 7 months ago on Under new CBA, Westbrook could make more than Durant

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@Hermit@gnaygg I can see the value of trading him, but I don't think Nate really has much value in the league. Really, he's a gunner, and definitely not a starter imo. So what can you get for him? And even more, what do we need. His roster spot is number 15, the max, so it would have to be one for one...

Then again, Presti is a wizard. So we will have to see I guess.

2 years, 7 months ago on Under new CBA, Westbrook could make more than Durant

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@gnaygg I bet we Amnesty little Nate though.

2 years, 7 months ago on Under new CBA, Westbrook could make more than Durant

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@gnaygg Nice find on the Article. It's pretty interesting that the league installed a provision to preclude the Lakers, Heat etc from swooping in and getting the amnestied players. Awesome. However, I can't be sure we are under the cap. From what I understand, Presti used all of the money we had left under the cap for Collisons extension last year. And when you add Reggie Jacksons salary cap hold, and Daequan's Cap hold, I am not sure if we are under. We are very close.

One thing, Robert Vaden counted against our cap last year. I doubt he will make the club this year so that will be gone, but that would probably just offset Jacksons salary. One site I looked at made it seem we were just pennies over, another made it seem like we were a few million below. IDK>

2 years, 7 months ago on Under new CBA, Westbrook could make more than Durant

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@BirdTerrifier@MartzMimic Hey Chas. I had the same problem. Now, instead of JOE, I am JOE_ Oh well right? You have to deal with the little vagaries of life.

2 years, 7 months ago on Under new CBA, Westbrook could make more than Durant

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@gary01@bhartsell89 bhartsell89 is correct. The logic goes that a team is supposed to only spend up to the salary cap. However the NBA has a "soft" salary cap, meaning it can be breached for several reasons, one of them being the Bird exception. So let's say that the Thunder already was over the cap, even significantly so, right now. Let's say team payroll was 80 million, and that now Russ West is eligible for an extension. The team would use the Bird Rights exception to sign him and be way over the cap. That is how a team like the Lakers wind up with 90 million dollar payroll. Odom was at one time a Bird rights exception, Kobe certainly was, and Andrew Bynum was....

2 years, 7 months ago on Under new CBA, Westbrook could make more than Durant

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@MartzMimic I agree. Hi Martz!!!!

2 years, 7 months ago on Under new CBA, Westbrook could make more than Durant

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@bhartsell89 I would agree. I wouldn't think it would be that difficult to pay our big 4 using Bird rights. However, the problem is that Bird Rights mean that you can go over the cap to sign your players. The question becomes: Will Clay Bennett be willing to go over the cap and into the penalty to pay the big 4 and then fill out the roster with other players. The big 4 may not be the problem going forward, it may be filling out the roster AFTER you've sold the farm to pay the big 4. For example, if the big 4 (KD, Russ, Harden and Ibaka---Perk already has his $) plus Perk are making say 60 million combined 3 years from now, and are playing at a high level (all will still be under 30), how do you pay Reggie, Maynor, Cole, a backup 2, a backup 3 etc. without going deep into the tax?

True, the bird rights let us go over to sign our guys, but the other guys will be the problem. If you have to fill out the roster with a bunch of D-League types like Robert Vaden and Tweety Carter instead of Maynor and Nazr, you are in trouble.

2 years, 7 months ago on Under new CBA, Westbrook could make more than Durant

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There is also this:

• There will be a “stretch” provision in the deal that allows a team to buy out a player and waive him, but spread his deal over a longer period of time (double the length of the contract plus one year) so as not to be such a cap hit. For example, if a player has three years, $30 million left on a deal and the teams want to waive him, they would have him on the official books for seven seasons at $4.3 million. It will look weird to see a guy on the books who was let go years before, but that space allows the team to not be completely hamstrung by a bad deal.

Call it the Eddy Curry rule.

• There also will be an amnesty clause in this deal that will allow teams to waive one player and wipe that salary almost totally off the books (75 percent goes away). This is similar to what was done in 2005, although then it only counted as savings against the luxury tax, now it counts as savings against the cap as well.

The Orlando Magic will have to choose between Gilbert Arenas or Hedo Turkoglu for this one. Tough decision.

To me that's a bummer. I want reckless GM's and Owners to sleep in the bed they made.

2 years, 7 months ago on Under new CBA, Westbrook could make more than Durant

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According to a post over at Probasketballtalk.com there is this bullet:

• Teams can only have one max-salary player that takes up to 30 percent of a team’s salary cap space.

That seems to be in contrary to the quote from Ziller in the above article. Since KD is already the MAX player, how can Russ be one also?

2 years, 7 months ago on Under new CBA, Westbrook could make more than Durant

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I don't know how the nickels will shake out, but I would bet the farm that KD wouldn't be upset at whatever Presti paid Russ West. He loves his teammates.

This kind of thing happened years ago when Shawn Kemp was a young all star and got miffed that Wally Walker paid Jim McIlvane --a stiff-- roughly the same as Kemp......he demanded a trade.

2 years, 7 months ago on Under new CBA, Westbrook could make more than Durant

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@[censored] My guess would be that it would be subject to the old CBA, as those were the terms under which it was negotiated. I could be wrong also, but that would be what I would assume. It was signed over a year ago.

My biggest question which I mentioned in the earlier article is whether or not there is an amnesty--either one time or otherwise. Articles I read during the lockout made it seem like it was a certainty. I like to see teams that made bad decisions reap the fruit of it. I want to see Orlando deal with many more years of agent zero, and the Wiz deal with the rest of Rashard's contract. And most of all I want to laugh my arse off watching the Buss family pay off a few more years of Derek Fisher, Ron Artest, Luke Walton and Steve Blake....not to mention 3 more years and 80 more owed to KOME Bryant finalizing when he's 36 freaking years old and still hogging the ball!!!!!!!

2 years, 7 months ago on A post-lockout FAQ

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@[censored]@Hermit@JimboSlice

Ha ha... what makes you say that? Just because both those two guys have assist rates of 16% or better and Mullens is at about 5% in the D-League...?

2 years, 7 months ago on Friday Bolts - 11.25.11

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I'm pretty excited. I've been trying to get into college hoops....but it just doesn't still have the same level of interest for me. I've been an NBA fan for about 25 years (all as a Sonic/Thunderer), and I can't believe how much I've missed it this year. I thought I would miss it less, but it has been more than I thought.

2 years, 7 months ago on Kevin Durant reacts to the end of the lockout

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@Hermit@JimboSlice All jumpshooting big men are not a waste. There is some value in a Brad Miller, Vlade Divacs type of Center, but I don't know if BM will ever reach any notoriety on a team with Russ and KD and Harden taking all the jumpshots.

2 years, 7 months ago on Friday Bolts - 11.25.11

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@Hermit I wouldn't trade Thabo unless he becomes a problem in the clubhouse. His deal is moderate and he has value as a defender and injury replacement for 2 positions. Plus, imagine were in the Western Conference Finals next year against the Lakers and Harden picks up 2 quick fouls or even three guarding Kobe. Who do you put in? Thabo is perfect there.

2 years, 8 months ago on Jeff Green thinks Russell Westbrook and KD overshadowed him

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@ATH Thanks for trying. Those links would work, but I refuse to sign up. Ha ha. I get the mag for now because it was nearly free through Amazon, but on principal I refuse to sign up for insider because they demand my credit or debit card and I wont give it to ESPN for Insider.

2 years, 8 months ago on Jeff Green thinks Russell Westbrook and KD overshadowed him

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Anybody who is an ESPN insider want to cut and paste the Hollinger article on the Thunder for those of us who refuse to pay the Man?

It's up on the main page of the ESPN NBA site.

2 years, 8 months ago on Jeff Green thinks Russell Westbrook and KD overshadowed him

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I also think he's a really good player. But the problem is just what you said: he is a tweener. I would doubt that he will ever make an all star team; he will likely always just be that complimentary player. He had three seasons as a starter and most people are sort of meh about giving him another one on their team.

He should embrace being the best 6th man/occasional starter he can be, so that he can have a long and successful career, and not go down as the next Martell Webster, Hakeem Warrick, Donte Green kind of player.

2 years, 8 months ago on Jeff Green thinks Russell Westbrook and KD overshadowed him

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It was nice to see Perk, but he definitely shuffled his feet----TRAVELLING!

2 years, 8 months ago on Video: Perk pretends he's a guard

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I've always said here that I think probably the only way this core is able to stay intact (especially after the Kendrick Perkins contract) will be for either a)Presti to do a top notch sales job to the coming free agents and get them to take a little off the number that they feel that they are worth to continue to play a prominent role on a contending team with great chemistry like they've done in San Antonio. Or b) pay some tax.

I don't think it will be able to be done any other way.

2 years, 8 months ago on The Thunder and the luxury tax

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I'd say Orlando is going to benefit from the amnesty clause far more than the other teams you mentioned. Gil Arenas could be cut and 61 million comes off the cap. If the Wizards cut Rashard, 40 mill comes off the cap.

No way Miami, the Fakers go near that. Maybe Portland if they cut Roy, but I'm not sure they are there yet ideally.

2 years, 8 months ago on 3-on-3: Amnesty’d

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I'm ready for the sides to come together and get this thing going.

2 years, 8 months ago on Stern gives the players an ultimatum: Wednesday or die

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@Steve H I don't want to speak for Royce, but one thing I've read in several different places is that even if the union attempts to decertify, it still takes a long time, as in months and years, during which the two sides can negotiate. Decertification is what it is, but it is also a tactic to encourage the league to get back to the table in good faith because lawsuits could be coming their way.

Also, it should be noted that just because an acceptance by the players on Wednesday is unlikely as it stands, doesn't mean that the negotiations will conclude. The 'best offer" announcement by Stern is also a tactic. It's not a conclusion.

As a worker, I've been through a 46 day strike years ago, and several negotiations since. It's never over till it's over. These guys are still working back room deals and scenarios, guaranteed.

Also keep in mind that the last strike wasn't settled until late December I believe, and the compressed season began in February. We aren't there yet.

2 years, 8 months ago on Monday Bolts - 11.7.11

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Well, at least the college basketball season is upon us.

2 years, 8 months ago on Monday Bolts - 11.7.11

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That;s funny.

2 years, 8 months ago on Now quarterbacking the Redskins: Kevin Durant

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@Royce Young I like it. But I logged in with Google and it put up my whole google account name instead of just JOE, and when I tried to change it, it said it was already taken.

2 years, 8 months ago on Thursday Bolts - 11.3.11

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The new system shows promise!

2 years, 8 months ago on Thursday Bolts - 11.3.11

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