I pity the fool who wears a naked chin
@nomad @TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard @King of Carrot Flowers the third He has a tendency to get caught floating on the perimeter offensively, not great at establishing or holding post position, a bit underwhelming defensively, especially off the ball, and loves the occasional contested long 2/ 3.
Hes a fantastic talent, but we seem to do a pretty poor job of developing his main defensive weaknesses, and Ibaka's dang near a shooting guard these days offensively, (then there was the Byron Mullens experiment fail), so his over-zealousness for playing on the perimeter probably won't be harnessed either.
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@King of Carrot Flowers the third The prospect I was referring to earlier was Myles Turner. I abslutely love him as a prospect, and actually was higher on him than Okafor coming into college, but I worry that his development will flounder here.
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@King of Carrot Flowers the third I love Turner, I think he's an AWESOME prospect, but I also worry that he'll flounder badly here.
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You know your coaching staff isn't very good when you question talented kids in the draft because their weaknesses happen to be what your coaching staff is horrid at developing.
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It's bout to get real dusty and/ or salty up in here
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We talking about the same turner? Myles turner is a phenomenal talent, but I don't see him going any higher than maybe 7, which is still a bit optimistic
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Without a second thought
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Lmao started a MyGM with OKC, and immediately DIon Waiters wants a GM sitdown to discuss how he thinks he should start lol. This game is too real
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@L0rv we dont need more vets. We just need more players who can play
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@KD hates Russ again (Formerly Tvaddic) @Crow not enough "may or may not be" quotes in there. otherwise, dead on
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@OBoy (LaFamilia) @KD hates Russ again (Formerly Tvaddic) i see what has been done here
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@Mother Teresa @Old Man Game that might be the best word ever written
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@Jabb0310 @TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard @okcjim you're definitely right. In all honesty, it could kind of work to our advantage if we did that, Brooks did a terrible job with the change, and we accidentally tanked our way into a decent pick before firing Brooks in the off-season. That's like a 3 for 1.
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@Jabb0310 @okcjim @TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard Brooks is a big problem in that area. He hamstrings quite a few potential ideas that otherwise would make a ton of sense for everybody involved.
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I think we make a bit too much of a deal about "Oh, if we trade player A then we need to a get X type of player back". If we back away from our love for the Thunder for a moment, we'll see that really, we don't have this huge stable of talent like we like to pretend.
If you look around the league, there are many teams that have young guys who look like long term pieces for that team and/ or long term players in the league, and not just the ones like Wiggins and co. who appear to be studs. No other fanbase or probably front office, is looking at any of ours thinking of that (sans Reggie), except for Adams, and maybe Lamb, who someone probably will make a player out of some day, but wouldn't be willing to give up any real assets to get since they know he's a low-value trade piece currently. Robes, with as much exposure as he's gotten, would probably have a couple suitors as well, but that'd mean Presti would have to be willing to give him up.
So really, at this point, I don't think you need to blow it up, but there's no "we need this position or this role back in a trade, but not this one". We just need the best pieces we can get back as long as they're not a guy who would need to be a starting PG, because even KD and Ibaka could be effective slid up a position if it raised the overall talent level of this team.
@GlendaGonzales Somebody needs to go ahead and set up a "Kevin Durant's Lawn" twitter account
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@DVoegeli It's ok man, I have trouble posting gif's too.
@Michael G Scott @TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard Brooks has been really helpful for them, as indicated by the fact he's got the second highest PER in the trade.
@Michael G Scott Chicago is giving you that yeah right face
@_justin @Tankmode I call it, the "Uncle Jeff Effect"
@L0rv @TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard @mattchant I think he did all he could to defend himself, but ultimately the Thunder won out as far as convincing their own fanbase that it was James Harden's fault he was traded, at least enough to not negatively effect their bottom line.
@mattchant I feel like I remember a similar story unraveling with another Thunder 6th man... hmmmmm
@Perk has a lot of value Not sure at all. I'm plagued by the thought of Kalamian being promoted.
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@L0rv @TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard He hasn't, but given that there's really only one other good shooter on the roster who's not starting, there's still very little to work with there.
@propsizzle @TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard I'm being sarcastic, but at the same time, I also think Presti's value of "worth the price" seems to be way off anyway so who knows.
My high school team was full of terrible shooters who could dribble their way out of every trap, and jump out of the gym (we watched waayyyyyy too many And1 mixtapes). We ran a halfcourt heavy, 5 out/ 4 out-1 in offense that setup up lots and lots of open 3's.
We still all sucked at shooting, and didn't win a single game until the last 2 weeks of the season.
Moral of the story is, Brooks can draw up all the plays he wants, but until our roster has at least acceptable shooting, at least from our backcourt players, we're still going to be terrible shooting the ball, and spacing is going to be extremely hard to come by.
Missing the playoffs is a speed bump, but sans the Durantless/ Westbrookless stretch, we're still very much on Presti's path for sustainability. A perennial playoff team, that collects gate into the second round every year, with the possibility of going further if they're lucky enough that their 2 really good players are greater than the opposing team's collection of good players.
We're standing pat.
@Turf is always Greener @TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard Not me, but even if so, he's a hit in Orlando. I doubt they let go of him for anybody unless it's lopsided badly in their favor.
@Perk has a lot of value @Lost Ones weren't we talking about Russ for MVP like one month ago?
@Turf is always Greener lolololol Payton ain't goin NOWHERE
@L0rv @TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard @DVoegeli Now that's one area that I think we'd get immediate transfer on.
Really, I think that's the one area where I think a coaching change would help us more than anything. Schematically, changes would be big, but simply getting 5 man units on the floor that make sense and are put in good positions to be successful would make an immediate impact.
@Tankmode @_justin @Turf is always Greener Lamb probably could tell you the answer to that question too
@L0rv @TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard @DVoegeli Yeah, I don't necessarily think it'd be unsuccessful, but it may be a bit hard to implement in the short amount of time the team actually has together between one season and the next (since it's pretty obvious we're not firing Brooks midseason).
You look at the things he did with Royce White and salivate about KD and Serge, but I just don't know if we'd be able to pick it up well enough by the time we're playing.
@eallen7 Same system that voted in T-Mac too, and almost had Lin as a starter.
@Four05 @DVoegeli If he promises to bring Andrea Hudy (KU's basketball strength coach), I'll consider it. We'd have rookie development out of this world.
@L0rv @TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard @DVoegeli yeah, that's why I honestly wonder a small bit if he would even want to leave.
Also not sure I think his coaching prowess will transfer smoothly. There are several coaches who run a more pro-style system in the college ranks, but I think any coach that doesn't could possibly be good in the NBA but would take more time to implement it than we probably have at our disposal.
@DVoegeli Hasn't Hoiberg been there forever?
@L0rv @TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard welp. Sorry Boogie. Sounds like Cousins just needs to come to OKC to get the big city media love like KD and Russ. Demand a trade!
@My Patronus is Perry and Lamb @TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard I hope so, but everything put out sure seems to point to them thinking of him as another Thabo replacement.
@My Patronus is Perry and Lamb @TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard The way we use our 3's not named KD, it's all semantics whether you call it 2 or 3. I should have just said "perimeter players" instead of shooting guards to be more accurate.
@L0rv Edit: Good thing Kobe won't be playing since he shouldn't be there anyway, so they can give Boogie the extra roster spot.
@Mr_F @TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard @ElMexiThunder @Turf is always Greener Looking at Scott in his New Orleans or New Jersey days, I think the comparison is pretty close really. Similar strengths and weaknesses.
@KingGondo I'm thinking:
Gary Freaking Payton
Why? Because he's awesome.
@Mother Teresa @TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard Whether he can play or not, Jerrett can't cross the street without getting hurt, so yeah, never even considered him a part of the team really
@My Patronus is Perry and Lamb @TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard Defensively he would guard the best perimeter player (in theory). If he were to see any minutes alongside Durant (this is obviously theoretical because he won't), the only available minutes would be at SG.
So with the second unit (with no staggered Durant), he'd play the "3", and with Durant in, more likely the "2".
This also all is a moot point given that the Thunder offense doesn't really use a defined 2 or 3 anyway, since our defensive stopper is going to guard the opposing best perimeter player anyway, whether they're a 2 or 3.
Point is, we have a thing for taking undersized PF's who excel at defense and rebounding, and put them as perimeter players, unlike most teams around the league who just go ahead and play them at PF (see: DeJuan Blair, Kenneth Faried, Craig Smith, etc)
@ElMexiThunder @Turf is always Greener I was thinking more like Byron Scott type
@My Patronus is Perry and Lamb @TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard Small forward/ perimeter lockdown defender, which, given that we use KD less and less at the 4, means he'd effectively be a SG/SF, not SF/PF
@d21 @TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard Hmm... the Mitch McGary pick makes so much more sense now. He's not here to fill Nick's spot, it's Serge now that he's finally blossomed out of his cocoon into a fabled thunder Power Guard.
I feel like we're literally the only team who strategically picks PF's to play SG. Not just Robes and Huestis, but even Lazar was a PF/C in college, with no semblance of a perimeter offensive game, but yet we immediately tried to turn him into a perimeter player.
Edit: Is it too late to also insert some kind of Byron Mullens joke here?
@My Patronus is Perry and Lamb @TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard @My Patronus is Perry and Lamb @Scanz Pretty sure the story caught fire though because of the Rose injury. All I remember hearing about at the time was "If he didn't play him so many minutes, he wouldn't have torn his ACL".
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