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@King of Carrot Flowers the third Kawhi Leonard | San Antonio Spurs
During the finals, I wrote this about Leonard:
"Given San Antonio's penchant to de-emphasize any one particular player -- keeping all five guys on the court as live scoring threats -- maybe Leonard will never need to be the traditional sort of star that the average NBA team would need. In that sense, it would make sense that the Spurs would pay him more handsomely when he hits free agency, because he represents their version of stardom, both in play and countenance."
Leonard has operated as a tertiary option for much of his career, although we saw during the Finals that, within the Spurs' system, he can step up and take a larger role. But even within the context of Games 3, 4 and 5 -- the stretch that ultimately won him the Finals MVP Award -- his usage barely crept above 20 percent. Leonard is more important to the Spurs than he would be on any other team, and as such, his value to them is higher than what it should be on the open market (I say "should" because, as Zach Lowe reminds us, it takes only "one" to mess up the market). The fact that San Antonio has supreme future cap flexibility only further emphasizes the ability to give Leonard a full max offer.
1 hour, 32 minutes ago on Wednesday Bolts – 10.1.14
@King of Carrot Flowers the third Derrick Williams | Sacramento Kings
The gap between Irving and No. 2 overall pick Williams is as vast as the distance between Ohio and California. Williams' career has been a disappointment, in part because he has been in unstable environments, but also due to his insistence on playing the wing. Ideally, Williams would have developed as a New Age, more explosive David West. He's frittered away much of his value searching for his lane.
Using 2010 power forwards as comps, bigger, more productive players with better defined games such as Ed Davis and Al-Farouq Aminu accepted minimum deals. Similarly undersized 4s such as Trevor Booker (two years, $9 million) and Patrick Patterson (three years, $18.1 million) found more lucrative deals awaiting them. It would probably behoove the Kings to pass on extending, but should they seek the cost certainty, four years, $16 million with partial guarantees should be the upper limit.
I mused about the complexity of Faried's value during the FIBA Basketball World Cup. He's truly elite at what he does (play with high, infectious energy), but how much money can you devote to a player around whom you can't structure an offense, nor anchor a defense? He's not a skilled basketball player, and everything he does on the offensive end is a product of what someone else created: putbacks off rebounds, baseline cuts off his guards' dribble penetration, basically any play where he can just catch and finish at the rim. Faried's motor is appealing to the untrained eye, which might (in the words of John Wooden) equate activity with achievement.
The truth is, it is often counterproductive on the defensive end; his freestyle rotations and overcommitments will compromise team defensive principles and leave the team vulnerable. Going off Taj Gibson's ridiculously undervalued four-year, $33 million deal from two years ago and Markieff Morris' newly minted four-year, $32 million pact, I'd aim to give Faried an AAV of $9 million per year, but I'd be comfortable going up a million higher to avoid letting him get to restricted free agency, where the threat of a massive overpay is real.
1 hour, 33 minutes ago on Wednesday Bolts – 10.1.14
@King of Carrot Flowers the third
Rather than regale you with valuations for such luminaries as Norris Cole and Cory Joseph, we'll take a look at a select few:
Despite being drafted in 2009, Rubio didn't start his NBA career until 2011, so he's only now entering his fourth year of service. The point guard market is fascinating: We live in an era where there are a lot of high-level PGs throughout the league, which can be seen as either (a) they are essential to keep up with the Joneses or (b) they are easily replaceable. Rubio has proven during his three years to be an effective game manager and brilliant passer. At the same time, he hasn't developed much offensively, and that severely lowers his ceiling.
The point guard market set a few years ago by Stephen Curry ($11 million AAV) and Ty Lawson($12 million) has quickly become a bargain price, as evidenced by this summer's deals by Kyle Lowry ($12 million) and Eric Bledsoe ($14 million). At the same time, Brandon Jennings andJeff Teague (both $8 million) were flawed players who signed last summer. Rubio at four years, $40 million represents a nice compromise, and the Wolves should certainly count on restricted free agency working in their favor should he decline.
Thompson is the classic case of having no necessity of rushing to make a deal. It has been widely reported that he and his camp are seeking a max-level deal. If that's the case, the Warriors should be under no duress to offer it right now. If we play the scenario out, Thompson hits restricted free agency where he'll presumably receive that offer from another team, but here's the catch: A max offer in free agency from a different team would have only 4.5 percent raises factored in. In other words, it's cheaper for Golden State to match a deal next summer than to offer the max now. Insider colleague Bradford Doolittle already discussed some of the questions surrounding Thompson.
Thompson is an elite shooter and an above-average defender, but to offer max means you're ignoring his limitations and his role on this team. For example, Danny Green of the San Antonio Spurs is not the same caliber shooter or defender, but wouldn't Golden State be better off paying him $4 million to perform the same role as Thompson while having $11 million to devote to other roster improvement? In the end, there is value to continuity and chemistry, and Thompson is worth investing in, but rubber-stamping a max offer for him at this stage would seem to be a premature investment, especially considering the weighty cap sheets that carry moving forward.
@King of Carrot Flowers the third
Jonas Valanciunas (Toronto), Nikola Mirotic (Chicago), Donatas Motiejunas (Houston), Jimmer Fredette (New Orleans), Jan Vesely (Fenerbahce Ulker, Turkey), JaJuan Johnson (Besiktas, Turkey), Jordan Hamilton (Toronto), Marshon Brooks (EA7 Milano, Italy), Nolan Smith (Galatasaray, Turkey), Chris Singleton (Indiana)
These players are ineligible to sign a rookie scale extension at this point for different reasons. Valanciunas, Mirotic and Motiejunas started their scale deals late (in Mirotic's case, this is his rookie year), so they will be eligible for extensions when they are entering their fourth year of service. For the remaining players, either third- or fourth-year team options were declined along the way, invalidating their ability to participate in a scale extension.
1 hour, 34 minutes ago on Wednesday Bolts – 10.1.14
@King of Carrot Flowers the third October is here, and for most of the NBA's Class of 2011, that means there's less than a month to go for their scale extensions to be negotiated. For all first-round picks entering their fourth season and had all of their team options picked up along the way, this is an opportunity to avoid the headache and uncertainty of the free-agent process, score some financial security and be paid an amount that closer represents their true value, because the rookie scale artificially depresses that.
For teams, this is a chance to lock a key contributor into a solid rate, giving the accounting department some cost certainty to work with, and perhaps secure him for less than what market value would be next summer. That last point is especially pivotal; the whole point of restricted free agency is to give the team the right of first refusal; therefore, it makes no sense to pay premium now unless you think it's going to save you money next summer. Of course, the argument can be made that good-faith negotiation goes a long way, and the relationship between the team and the player (and his agent) can become strained, but those cases are few and far between.
The 30 first-round picks from 2011 can be divided into three groups: Already Signed, Ineligible to Sign and Extendables.
Kyrie Irving | Cleveland CavaliersMarcus Morris | Phoenix SunsMarkieff Morris | Phoenix Suns
Irving received a maximum allowable five-year extension. Because the max is based off a percentage of the salary cap, and the cap for 2015-16 has not yet been determined, we don't have an exact figure, but we can conservatively assume that, worst-case scenario, it remains flat. This would give Irving $85 million over five years. However, should he achieve certain benchmarks (the most likely of which is to be voted an All-Star starter for a second time), he's eligible to receive an even higher percentage of the cap than his draft class peers. That could push his new deal into the $100 million territory.
The Morris twins opted for a unique sort of security with their extension: shared. In an unprecedented strategy, the Suns negotiated with the twins on package pricing and arrived at the total per annum salary ($13 million per year) first before deciding how to divide among the two players. This is a nicer way of saying they gave Markieff a deflated value and transferred those savings over to Marcus' deal; as long as the total remained in the same ballpark, the distribution would be irrelevant for the brothers, who live in the same house and allegedlyshare a bank account.
@RRRWHOAAAA and that huge salary that the pistons gave him
1 hour, 37 minutes ago on Wednesday Bolts – 10.1.14
@d21 no wonder he has so many kids
2 hours, 1 minute ago on Wednesday Bolts – 10.1.14
@d21 was the reporter darnell or jenni?
2 hours, 3 minutes ago on Wednesday Bolts – 10.1.14
@Joo_ivey @greatwhitebuffalo @d21 they banned that last year
2 hours, 5 minutes ago on Wednesday Bolts – 10.1.14
@d21 @FunakiEjectsAnother [#StartLambFaction] it would suck for adams, he always misses the first FT attempt
2 hours, 10 minutes ago on Wednesday Bolts – 10.1.14
@d21 foul every play then at least for bad shooters
2 hours, 12 minutes ago on Wednesday Bolts – 10.1.14
@Tvaddic until we start perry
3 hours, 5 minutes ago on Wednesday Bolts – 10.1.14
@d21 He isn't?
3 hours, 30 minutes ago on Wednesday Bolts – 10.1.14
@rednuht @Perk has a lot of value @Julius F Wrek sure didn't look like it in worlds. I wish i could bet against them
5 hours, 22 minutes ago on Wednesday Bolts – 10.1.14
@FunakiEjectsAnother [#StartLambFaction] better than chris paul
2 days, 1 hour ago on Monday Bolts – 9.29.14
@Sustainable Parameters @Tydude contract year
2 days, 2 hours ago on Monday Bolts – 9.29.14
@Sustainable Parameters @f5alcon farther back, this is leslie's 3rd season
@SeinfeldOKC @f5alcon @Marko (Lacoste baby) because we have better players at the 3 and 4. Plus 2s can't guard him and he doesnt dribble much, Melo and lebron at the 2 would be tougher because of high usage.
@Sustainable Parameters i dont remember her leaving, i think she was our sideline reporter.
@SeinfeldOKC @f5alcon @Marko (Lacoste baby) hopefully, i like perry against bigger 2s.
@SeinfeldOKC @f5alcon so what you are saying is that i can up the bet to something crazier with no risk of losing
@okcjim @Perk-Punt @Marko (Lacoste baby) they are all bad at defense
@Marko (Lacoste baby) i think it will change a lot throughout the season
@SeinfeldOKC if perk hits a 3 during a game or warm-ups I will change my avatar to him
@Joo_ivey @f5alcon @SeinfeldOKC roberson looking forward to being the Blue's captain
@FunakiEjectsAnother [#StartLambFaction] @SeinfeldOKC he cant be extended this year
@SeinfeldOKC reggie vs lamb vs perry, those guys are gonna fight it out
@d21 when he retires he is gonna break 400
@Tvaddic he only shot 50% last year
2 days, 3 hours ago on Monday Bolts – 9.29.14
@d21 @Tvaddic 3 non all stars and dirk
@OBoy (LaFamilia) i want to see hibbert do american ninja warrior.
@Tvaddic lol, they will be lucky to make the playoffs
2 days, 4 hours ago on Monday Bolts – 9.29.14
@Marko (Lacoste baby) the stache will crush the beard
2 days, 5 hours ago on Monday Bolts – 9.29.14
@Tvaddic go adams or mcgary
@tygablood might not be another PF and just play durant at PF a lot and more 3 guard play
5 days, 2 hours ago on Friday Bolts – 9.26.14
@eallen7 and probably the fact that our return on trading jackson would be less.
5 days, 4 hours ago on Friday Bolts – 9.26.14
@okcjim baseball? jeter because of rings, stats were fairly close
@Sustainable Parameters @f5alcon @Jax Raging Bile Duct custom jersey maker at the arena should work.
5 days, 5 hours ago on Friday Bolts – 9.26.14
@Sustainable Parameters @Jax Raging Bile Duct if that happens i will buy a perk jersey
@Lambaaaaaa @ThunderMoneyBall could work in an extend and trade with reggie.
6 days, 4 hours ago on Kevin Durant plays as LeBron James on NBA 2K
@Marko (Lacoste baby) unfortunately that doesnt mean he is any better.
@Durants Shimmy perk re-signs for 3MM a year. Or pleiss
6 days, 5 hours ago on Kevin Durant plays as LeBron James on NBA 2K
doesnt play as himself because that's masturbation
@rednuht @f5alcon @Lambaaaaaa reggie isn't willing to, the market will just have a lot of PGs next year so hopefully it squeezes salaries
6 days, 5 hours ago on Thursday Bolts – 9.25.14
@Lambaaaaaa if he gets max and we let harden go, that would be sucky.
@Lambaaaaaa @f5alcon i hope not, KDs mins need to come down during the regular season
@Lambaaaaaa this year pass to morrow in the corner
@SeinfeldOKC I think that makes the spurs better
1 week ago on Thunder announce D-League team renamed the ‘Blue’
@OBoy (LaFamilia) can that be the blue-girls uni
1 week ago on Wednesday Bolts – 9.24.14