Willing to say what other leave unspoken.
@ginidietrich is Brian said bellow, the study fail for one simple reason, the researcher Dr. Natalie fail to explain how she define engagement for the study, the time considered and last but not least she forgets to disclove that she seats on the board of infinigraph that she used for analyzing the stats, which makes all even more suspicious what the intent of the study was.
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@hessiej well Hessie you need to start calling him Author @Danny Brown and you need to thank for that to Gini! :) @AmyMccTobin @Andrew Jenkins
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@hessiej It's all about Transparency, so dont try to change Author @Danny Brown :) @AmyMccTobin @Andrew Jenkins
Love seeing how you guys do exactly what you preach.... Way to go and I know in a year time you all will be big stars -- just remember us - little people :) Congrats to Danny for his outstanding book!
@JustinIiams apologize accepted Justin. I said in other comments "being accused of having a DUI" is out of order, i was referring to a tweet that was sent out to all of us that Monday. Glad we clear that out!
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10 months, 1 week ago on Social Judge, Jury and Executioner: The Lynch Mob in Action
@JustinIiams Justin let be clear on something. I never had an DUI so if you have proof of that please send it my way, would like to see to what you are referring about me and DUI. Sorry have no idea.
I agree i replace the avatar but in no way i did link Dabney names to it, would you mind showing me where the Dabney name is in it? I cant control the comments that other do or made, but in all fairness no one was mentioning Dabney's in the comments...
So again as for DUI that you are making public statement and accusation please make sure you have all facts together before accusing me of felony act.
DUI convictions are public records, please go and do your homework...
Sorry Justin but DUI slander is something that I will not allow you to make on me!
@Float_Girl Randi Hi. I am only going to reply to you on few points that include me in this conversation, as i did with entire post here before. I have no idea from where are you coming or getting an impression that Dabney cost me any clients. My comment yesterday was in the line of " i did not tweet her clients" related to all the tweets that went out not from Dabney but her supporters to HuffPo... I think this was out of line. As for your comment on me talking to Britt and few others, let me clear here something for all of us. I think Dabney has a struggle seeing people ( incl me) talking to other people. Just because Britt, Jason, Michelle, Jessica, Elizabeth or who ever tweets each other or people ask how you doing, doesn't mean that there is a conversation going on about Dabney.
I hope you know what I mean. And here we are because of that... Birtt, Michelle and Jessica where included in some tweets for no reason, I never talked to them about my initial post I did it myself. I dont need anyone instructing me what i should do, jet they all got slamed down because they like the post. I am not saying Dabney did it, might be that some "supporters" just generalized the entire thing. As to your point, I think Dabney could say something about it to their supports if she did not agree with what they were doing on the web to support her. If she was thinking that Tweeting HuffPo or NBC was inappropriate then say so. Didn't happened instead they were tweets out there saying thank you fo supporting me.
I think we again all turn this discussion into something that we should not. The post was not written to slam down or lift up Dabney indeed. The core of the post is (from my understanding reading it) do we have right to question marketing tactics of social media professionals publicly or not, and if defense like this are right to do or not. This includes everyone in, not just Dabney, lets not now generalize everything and make only Dabney as the one who should be questioned all the time.
I dont know you personally, but again thank you for allowing me to say this back at you.
@farahbelliard @jureklepic @AmyMccTobin Farah, i have no hard feeling, i know how human anger works, you know i told in a comment i was angry and i made that comment on weight that i should not. But i did not repeat that for days... Let me say about DUI, also shows pure human decency, this was told to someone in confidence and no matter what happens btw two people, this are personal things that should never been used as weapon of attack... Special not when 3rd person do the attack with info that were so personal... This is where i have hard time, anyone could call me out or comment, indeed some of her friends did and i replied back, i did stay away from any personal feelings i explain why i did what i did and move on. But we all learn from our mistakes, i hope others too.
10 months, 2 weeks ago on Social Judge, Jury and Executioner: The Lynch Mob in Action
@farahbelliard @AmyMccTobin Farah Thank you and did not even expect from you to take any sides. I think there is nothing that i will hide. As I said before would I do it all over again, YES i would. I would question the practice of anyone if I believe is unethical or misused. Secondly i would not put it up for the second time if facebook decide to take it off, that yes was wrong with me, but again i did not drop any names. I can't control the tone or directions of people comments, but i can certainly say something as author when the comments cross the line. And I would do that and i will in the future if i need to. I am not saying that i am going to call anyone out tomorrow or day after.
Reality is that Dabney names was only visible in the post that was removed from Facebook, i did not tag her name to the post, mention her name in the update neither did i tweet out or mention her name in comments.
I did not went out and tweet her clients or brands that she works with... Her supporters did just that with me, from accusing me that i had a DUI and that I was locked in prison to very core of calling me bully and i bully people on social, while they were doing exactly the same to me just in worst way that i did. I dont appreciate that and i never will.
Farah if you think that i did something more then i am saying, please feel free to let me know...
@farahbelliard Hi Farah, nice seeing you... i see you remember many things. Then you might remembered and clear confusion with your friends, that my comment to "300 pounds ass" was not part of Miss Piggy Post but was in the comments section in very first status update that i did that friday without mentioning or drooping any names. After you warn me on my statement i did acknowledge the mistake and my inappropriate comment. You acknowledge that. Just maybe as you were the part of this very conversation you might make that clear as seems like i was drooping names and miss Piggy comments at the same time. Thank you
@Danny Brown @jureklepic @hessiej @AmyMccTobin Danny just to clarify something... When i said I "paid for followers" i did not mean i went out and buy them. Twitter offers two type of advertising. Promoted accounts and promoted tweets. Promoted accounts is keywords targeting advertising on twitter. They suggest your account to be follow based on keywords that new users or existing user use in twitter search... But jokingly i always said you can buy followers from Twitter as well... Coz what else it is, they just use different name they chose to call it Promoted accounts. :)
@hessiej @jureklepic @Danny Brown @AmyMccTobin Hessie how do you think accounts like wholefoods, starbucks and others gain so much followers, they are doing Twitter ads campaign both promoted account ( followers ) and promoted tweets where your tweets is forced in a stream based on keywords targeting.
@Danny Brown @jureklepic @DavidTraub @AmyMccTobin Then i take it back, I didn't know that Danny. I know that people where buying RT's like crazy but i did not know that you can do that with fake account. David ignore my part on Klout. But the Kred one is correct, Kred does give you points based on new followers.
@DavidTraub @AmyMccTobin @Danny Brown fake followers has zero impact on Klout scores David, coz there need to be an activity and with fake accounts there no activity But you gain your Kred score a lot, coz for every new followers you get one point in kred. or use to be so in the past.
@hessiej @Danny Brown @jureklepic @AmyMccTobin Let me say if you go and buy followers at least buy them from Twitter... But yes they are very pricy.... there is minimum spend, use to be 5K now is 15K/3months...
There is a diference btw doing ads on twitter and buying followers from websites that offer followers. On twitter they promote your account to new comers... Site that sell followers use a software that creates 10.000 - 1million fake account with fake email addresses add pictures on and start following, but twitter is doing a cleaning spring as well of fake account, just look how some people are losing the number of followers overnight...
@Danny Brown @jureklepic @hessiej @AmyMccTobin you mean why i did with twitter ads.... Coz i got some credit to use, and i used it for promoted tweets for a cause and promoted account... I am not ashamed of telling that. I was always open to this conversation, when i was asked. But yes i can also say that i got recently a gift of followers over night... someone purchased them under my account. apparently you dont need to autorize twitter account to do so. So did (i like Robert) cleaning shit from my account. I am also thinking of cleaning it even more down coz lots of accounts are dead and really there is no value in having tones of followers. I still have same engagement as i had before twitter ad campaign.
@Danny Brown @jureklepic @hessiej @AmyMccTobin i know that, but after the new API rules they limited them again due to the API calls issue! :)
@hessiej @AmyMccTobin @Danny Brown i will comment on fake followers and status people coz there is a bit of miss understanding. Status people take in account last 1000 - 5000 followers and they analyze following / followers ratio. If the ration is out of norm 1:1 then they proclaim account as fake.
I can tell you that from personal experience, aprox 9 months ago i was running twitter ads on my account for gaining new followers. You bid on new followers and starts with $0.25 its the only legitimate way of buying followers from Twitter coz you pay for it. Of course i did some targeting. Anyhow at the same time the status people came out and i was looking into as well a bit. Problem i had with them was that was showing me extremely high fake score. Digging bit deeper i discover that problem with status people is that they only look into following / follower ratio. We all know twitter offers new accounts who came on twitter to follower suggested people ( thats advertising that i paid for) so of course in general i will have new followers who follow more them then they have followers and status people mark them as spam. So i use it with the grain of salt.
But there is a way around. You can check out tweetcounter and look in stat of how many followers person is gaining a day.
For example: and this is from my experience as being twitter advertiser once. While i was running my ads with twitter i gain aprx 1100- max to 1500 followers a day. This is also reason why i got verified. Anyone who advertise with twitter at some point get verified at the beging of campagne.
So now when i see accounts that are gaining more then a daily norm when you dont advertise you might gain max of 300 followers/day if you follow 1000... i become suspicious from where this followers are coming. If you see someone gaining 800+ a day i can say with certainty that person has purchase followers, specially when the person is not verified...
Thats how i look in this matter... Now you can look for free up to 3 months back on tweetcounter and i think that if you want data for older you need to have pro account....
Hope this help.
Sorry for typos i am typing from my Iphone who loves autocorrect everything LOL
Amy, Thank you for the post. Again I will say it, my action or my original post was simple question or statement toward a behavior that i found somehow offensive and unethical taking in consideration that #Boston at the time of this accident was in major crisis.
I also think that people often forget ( and i am talking this in general not about any particular individuals) that there is no diference between offline and online world. It's is one world integrated together. Our actions offline reflecting our actions online, jet people believe seems to live online world differently What you see of me online is what you get of me when you meet in offline or like many like to say IRL.
No matter who the individuals would be that friday that made that tweet, I would still posted and ask the same question... There were no emotions attacked to it.
We could simple have conversation about the tweet and talk was it my understanding wrong or did i had some point in it. I could simple be that everyone would be against me saying Jure you are wrong, it is nothing wrong with that tweet and I would accepted it or carry on conversation.
But its much more easy to attack what we don't like and make us look as victim. I could do the same after all the tweets went out, but I did not. There quite a few who reached out and offer there support and actions to help calm down situation. I said to everyone the best way to support me or anyone else is to stay away from the situation and event. I am grown up person who can handel it myself if i need to do so.
But the whole point of this story is, that today we all to often use words "bullying" when we simple dont like something. OF course if i see to you that i just got bullied you will feel sympathetic towards me and try to protect me. It's human nature. But I think before we declare in our mind that someone is getting bullied we need to look in context first.
After knowing what happened would I still do what i did. My answer is YES. I believe that should discuss or have conversation about tactics and marketing approaches that we see online, but we need to keep human, or we will be seen as Enemy to ourselves.