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My guess is they couldn't get Fitz and Gonzo didn't want to come. Would have been a much better use of the pick to get Fitz in here instead of Rich. And this will conclude my attempt to sound hip by only using the first half of player names.
9 months ago on Monday Morning Mourner: Reggie Wayne's Absence
So... To play the devil's advocate... maybe it wasn't that the o-line was so much better when Peyton and Edge were playing. Maybe it really was because every defense on just about every down really had to respect both the pass and the run. Late in his career in Indy, it was obvious that Peyton was going to run the show and the pass was the only thing that anyone had to worry about, and that was the same time that the line started to look really bad. The type of players on it did not change too much, the coaching staff didn't change, the only thing that really changed was that there wasn't a dynamic runner behind Peyton. With guys who are truly dynamic at the running back position, the holes made by the o-line don't have to be as big. Maybe T-rich can hit the kind of holes that the indy o-line has been making and turn them into true gains. And if that's the case, maybe the passing game can open up out of that. I don't think I really believe this, it's just all that's giving me hope right now.
10 months, 1 week ago on The Trent Richardson Trade: A Closer Look
So... Getting to the play-offs was all fun to watch and I've loved the ride. But could this really hamper the Colts' rise back to the tops of the league? Are they going to be able to repeat even half of what they got from this year's draft when selecting in the bottom half of every round? Anyways... at least they managed to turn my wife around!
1 year, 6 months ago on The Clock Finally Struck Midnight: Colts 9, Ravens 24
Aren't most of the complaints really stemming from the fact that they cut Peyton right after the renewal deadline? It's rather irrelevant to me as I couldn't dream of affording season tickets
2 years, 1 month ago on Thoughts About Season Tickets | May
@rogcohen I think it was a product of watching Peyton torch those same high risk, high reward, aggressive defenses for so long.
2 years, 3 months ago on Hopeful Fodder - What if We're Wrong? | Articles
I could show you cut ups of Pierre Garcon and you would think his hands were amazing too, obviously wasn't always the case. I think it'll depend alot on how his chemistry with Luck ends up. @naptown_ninja @AJ_ @Coltsheadben
2 years, 3 months ago on I Was Wrong | April
@kasey_junk @chip_bennett The economics probably are the biggest factor. I have to say, though, I'm a junky about Colts' football. I read everything I can get my hands on. My wife, is a huge fan too, not to the same extent. She is *furious* with Irsay over letting Manning go. I don't know if it speaks to alot of other fans, but I don't think she's going to be changing her tune for the next three years. Even if the Colts are winning a Superbowl four years from now, her response will most likely be, "yeah but... it could've been Peyton" I'm not sure it doesn't have a bigger effect on more casual fans... who know.
2 years, 3 months ago on Why the Colts' Renewal of Season Tickets Was Low | April
@kasey_junk @chip_bennett but they knew it was going to happen before they renewed.
@thejoshbaker he also failed a physical prior to being released. They gauged where he was at and are taking a gamble on where he's going to be by the start of the season.
2 years, 3 months ago on Truth Telling and The Eternal Optimist | April
@naptown_ninja @thejoshbaker The whole, 'he obviously was good to go' argument doesn't hold weight until the season comes and we see him in action. just cause he can throw a ball period doesn't mean he's in his old form. It could very well be that Denver didn't do their due diligence.
@WilliamTerryClogston @AJ_ When his first full season as a healthy starter was three years into the league and he was taken 1st overall, I think they probably should have expected him to put up comparable numbers, especially with Johnson to throw to. If you read Kyle Rodriguez's pieces 'don't be surprised' and actually look at the talent the Colts have on defense, you'll see they aren't that far from having what they want, just a couple of key positions. More to the point, if they use the next two years drafting on the defensive side of the ball(I assume you mean in the first and second rounds) they'll be misusing Luck by not putting receivers around him. The team is alot closer than you think and Nate's 100% right. If they aren't turning it around in about three years, they better be thinking of blowing something up again.
@UKColt @mshah9008 Depends on the position. It's way worth it to spend 15-17 million on a great quarterback who has the potential to get injured. Rather do that than spend 8 million each on two mediocre quarterbacks. If they pay that for a running back you're right, it's an easy decision.
@mshah9008 I'm not willing to say that the Colts will be led by their defense yet.It's clear there's a shift in philosophy, but if you really want to know if the team's going to be a defense first or run first unit, look at where they're spending money. If the Colts drop a ton on a new QB and some new weapons, I wouldn't expect them to really transform into a defense first unit.
@thejoshbaker @UKColt @heavywoody This... salary cap precludes being able to be dominant in all three phases year and year out.
So it all comes down to how good of a coach Pagano is, right? I think what made Dungy such a great coach is that he was able to utilize what strengths were on the team while still trying to implement the defensive changes he wanted. He wasn't foolish enough to waste Manning's talent by saying forget the offense or run first all the way and try to focus on the defense. He was a 'defensive minded' coach that came in and ran one of the most potent offenses in NFL history. I'm hoping the Arians hire points towards Pagano being smart enough to utilize the assets he's going to have(read: Luck). In the end, we won't know until it happens...
Maybe that's why he's not worried about it. If the rookie wage scale works the way it's intended what could Luck hold out for?
2 years, 4 months ago on Nuggets from Grigson press conference | Articles
@dmstorm22 @19>18 @heavywoody And my point is that while they're not necessarily doomed, it's not a given that they're going to get the next Flacco, Brees, etc etc. I'll stand by my Dolphins example.
2 years, 4 months ago on Did Irsay pull the chute too soon? | Articles
@dmstorm22 @19>18 @heavywoody Because we're talking about QBs available for drafting.
@dmstorm22 @Peyton for President @EconolineVan They're dumping Tim Tebow for MAYBE Manning. And to be honest, Elway had what, a week to get up to speed on the nitty gritty of the situation, where as Irsay new Peyton for years, knew about the work ethic, had talked about the rehab for months! In the end it is all going to come down to whether or not Luck can play and win. If he's Steve Young to Manning's Montana, in five years, it'll be heralded as a great decision.
I @dmstorm22 @19>18 @heavywoody It was on NFL.com, all he said was that his throwing in those work outs 'wasn't great'
And you can't count Warner, Pennington I'll give you as he's one of my favs.
I also don't think it's a given that they're doomed if they don't pick Luck, but when you're managing the business part of like Irsay has to, you have to do things like cost benefit analyses and think about how long Peyton might still be around and what the likelihood someone comparable to better than Luck will be somewhere in the draft where they can get him is.
@Peyton for President @EconolineVan I will point out that the teams who were willing to dump their current QBs were the Broncos, using a QB so bad at passing they're running an option, the Cards who have two mediocre to bad QBs who can't stay healthy, the Jets who have a QB they don't believe can win, and the 49ers running a run first offense with a guy who some have considered one of the great busts in #1 overall picks. If the Broncos had been wiling to dump Tom Brady, or hell even Joe Flacco to get Peyton, I think that would say something. But dumping Tim Tebow to get Peyton Manning even if he only MIGHT play? Sounds like a win to just about anybody.
@DougEngland @naptown_ninja I will point that we only know Manning said that he would be willing to renegotiate. Nate himself said this whole offseason you shouldn't believe a word that comes out of either person's mouth. I have my own speculations about what each person thought during the conversations, but I will not presume to know without doubt what Irsay actually thought. So while you may believe he made up his mind so soon, unless you're going to tell me you and he are drinking buddies, I'm not going to take it as fact.
@dmstorm22 @19>18 @heavywoody Its true the Cardinals got good play out of Warner in free agency. But league average quarterback play isn't that great anyways. You want ABOVE league average play to be a contender. THAT doesn't come around every other year. And I think I was the first person to mention a decade, and I wasn't saying that the Colts WOULD wallow for a decade, but there sure as a chance that they COULD. This is that mythical place Polian always talked about where need and talent meets in the draft, if Luck turns out to be a great quarterback. Couple that with the report Manning himself gave today about how well he threw for those teams he worked out for and it makes at least me a little bit more comfortable with the decision.
@dmstorm22 @19>18 @heavywoody Jets, Raiders, Broncos. Ravens, Cardinals, Chiefs, Dolphins.
@flores_salicis @pierrezombie @EconolineVan I would agree that you don't need the number one pick to get a serviceable QB. But I would argue that you'll be able to consistently pick in the middle/back of the pack or even the bottom of the top 10 and get a GREAT QB.
@naptown_ninja @pierrezombie At the end of the day... winning is the ultimate ointment. So if Luck comes in and plays it will have been a great decision, if he fails, it will be terrible.
@pierrezombie @Sinn0331 @kasey_junk @EconolineVan Ask the Browns and the Lions about 'a couple seasons at the bottom waiting for the shot at the next franchise QB.' Would you be willing to trade the next decade hoping the stars align while the team lavishes in mediocrity at best, hoping you get in a position to get a franchise QB? I personally would rather watch Peyton as well. But I think it's a misleading to argument to just say, well the Colts could have just waited a couple of years and then rebuilt. It may not have worked out that way.
@kasey_junk @EconolineVan You're right that Luck will not be as successful as Manning. They're going to have to build a better all around team, though, rather than relying just on Luck. Regardless, you have to have the franchise QB to make it happen, or it doesn't matter how well you can build the team around him is. So I think it's a mistake to think that the Colts are counting on Luck to be the next Peyton Manning. They're counting on him to be a good franchise QB and help win games. There's no guarantee that when Manning would've retired in three years that there would've been a QB to take in a position where the Colts could've taken him. Irsay's playing the long ball in this. Not sure it'll work out, but I really hope it does.
@flores_salicis @pierrezombie @EconolineVan I think this argument may be a little misleading. I kinda think that franchise quarterbacks aren't that rare either, but then you look at the recent play of the 'franchise' guys, Matt Ryan, Flacco, Bradford... it's not that great. AND you can't guarantee that there will be a Quarterback that's good enough in a position where you can draft them. Look at all the middle of the pack teams that don't lose enough to get the best of the best or consistently draft unluckily. I think it may be worth it for Irsay to have done it, but Luck better be the real deal.
So... Nate has said from the beginning that the biggest mistake Irsay could make would be cutting a healthy Peyton Manning. He's thrown for several teams and looked good enough for them to pay him a lot of money for the next five years. Peyton's also on saying he'll be ready come OTAs, and he no longer has any reason to upsell his condition. Does this mean Irsay made that mistake? Or do we still wait until the season starts to make that call?
2 years, 4 months ago on On Manning, Pride, and Legacies | March
@Cliff Marshall Faulk was quoted in an interview saying how Peyton wouldn't want to keep his brother out of the super bowl? I don't know how much weight that really holds, but if it's true might be why he didn't want to go to the NFC
@squirrel THIS. He kind of was a star in the beginning.. Ordinarily I wish the best for guys like Gonzo... but I can't in New England.
2 years, 4 months ago on Gonzo Signs With Patriots | Articles
@Peyton for President I'm not jumping up and down either with the additions. But to me it seems like we already know that the team is not going to be good next year. It seems to me to be a bit premature to think that the guys they're bringing in in March the first year of a rebuilding project are going to be the end all be all of the offensive line. They still are going to have to sign guys just to make it through the next year of 'cap hell'. As far as the scheme goes, I totally agree with Nate that IF they come out and decide they want to be the next incarnation of the New York Jets(run first, stop the run) that's a HORRIBLE plan. But I haven't seen them actually do that yet, and I'll reserve that judgment until they do.
2 years, 4 months ago on Dunlevy looks at McGlynn | Articles
I kind of agree with some of the sentiments already described. Sure the guy's not an all-pro and maybe he will suck, but the Colts have to field SOMEBODY next year. I seriously doubt Saturday and Diem are coming back. The team hasn't even made it INTO camp let alone out of it with this dude as the starting center. It seems a bit unfair to judge Grigson's pick ups that harshly this quickly. I mean it's not like he could've drafted someone to fill the spot as we all would prefer.
That last line says it all! Good for him for getting paid, but I didn't know he was worth that kind of money!
2 years, 4 months ago on Brandt on crazy receiver contracts | Articles
@James_Otis I think that the statements about most athletic QBs really only pertains to QBs whose careers have been carried by their athleticism, like Tim Tebow. Luck wasn't a guy who had to run the ball 15 times a game to win, but won games with his arm. I think that is what makes the comparison to other 'athletic' QBs somewhat unfair in this case.
2 years, 5 months ago on Luck is athletic but can he throw? | Articles
Interesting considering how many times in the past several weeks it's been Peyton bringing it up in the media, not Irsay.
2 years, 5 months ago on NFP: Manning should deny the Colts | Articles
@Music Man They can still have a home. Especially with nickel packages and what not. I think the new prototype with these kind of guys in a 3-4 was set with Mario Williams. I don't know how much they'd really like it. Most teams that run a 'strict' 3-4 aren't really strict anyways too. They only end up in the 3-4 personnel packages something like a third of the time? I don't remember the exact stats, but NFL posted an article about it awhile back.
2 years, 5 months ago on The future for Freeney and Mathis | Articles
I think you're right that Irsay made up his mind a long time ago. I think you're wrong in saying it has less to do with Peyton's health. If Peyton comes out close to being healthy by the deadline, I believe what Irsay's been saying all along, he will keep Peyton AND draft Luck. @Peyton for President
2 years, 5 months ago on A Chance At Glory is Worth It All | Articles
@Ben Savage@feltmadras I think Freeney might also be able to make the conversion. If you look at what Houston did with Mario Williams, could be an option for both Mathis and Freeney. The question would be, how well do they manage in coverage. I don't really think the Colts can manage a one season swap to 3-4. Every single position is inappropriate for the system, with the exception of some of the DTs, which could function as DEs in a 3-4. The backers are too small, the corners play zone, not man(and that badly) no nose. I would expect they might talk about it, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Colts stick to a base 4-3 for the coming year.
2 years, 6 months ago on Five Plays in Free Agency - Jamaal Anderson Edition | February
The question of the defensive scheme is the most interesting one, I think. It's going to be tough for Chuck Pagano to insist on transforming what has been consistently the 'smallest' defense in the league into a 3-4 in one year. I was impressed with what Phillips did in Houston, but I'm not as convinced it'll be quite so immediately successful in Indy. Great piece!
@matt_has Pretty sure it was a hot mess because of injury, not to mention the same way the Colts' o-line looks good because manning gets rid of the ball so quickly, the reverse must be true when your QB holds the ball too long.
2 years, 6 months ago on Colts Name Harold Goodwin As New Offensive Line Coach | January
@ninpojames I think it might make sense to cut Clark, due to the implications to the cap the following year. I think you're right about Eldridge though.
2 years, 6 months ago on Preparing for the Colts Future: Tight Ends Dropping Like Flies | November
And while you have been saying it for months, those of use trying to live in the dream world where Peyton plays five more years with Indianapolis have had an easier time discounting that information when it comes from only one source. Not saying that your credibility is suspect, because frankly, it's not. It's just easier to ignore something when it's one person. When everyone else comes out saying the same thing it's alot harder to ignore. And as far as what doctors have said on ESPN, I certainly haven't done any fact checking on their individual claims, but ostensibly they would be quoting randomized controlled trials of therapeutic interventions to correct those statements. Not quite BS, maybe wrong in the case of Peyton Manning, but it's like every other probability based analysis. 90% may have been accurate or may still be. @Nate Dunlevy
2 years, 6 months ago on Peyton Manning to retire? | Articles
Also, this must be spreading around, and Clayton's not denied it. As a stand up journalist, if he thought it had no basis, he wouldn't want his name associated with it and would've rescinded it. maybe he still will, but his silence on the issue directly is somewhat telling as well.
I honestly think, even if this statement is true, he'll want to push it all the way up to his roster bonus deadline, just to give himself the chance.
To be honest. The more and more I think about it. I'd rather see him play for another team then forced to retire.
@19>18 it's not guaranteed that they won't know if he can play or not. So the part they wait for is nerve regeneration to his triceps muscle. Peripheral nerves regenerate at a rate of about 2 mm/day after injury. If peyton's nerve was totally obliterated from the nerve root all the way to the triceps it would be about a 250 day recovery. Since he didn't lose one hundred percent capacity in the muscle, it's safe to assume that at least part of the nerve remained intact. His recovery time should be considerable faster than that.
2 years, 6 months ago on One Last Request | Articles
@GregC@7IHd Also... Manning just released another statement. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8265db09/article/colts-manning-wastes-little-time-responding-to-irsays-comments?module=HP11_headline_stack
Don't know if it changes any opinions or not, just thought it would be worth sharing.
2 years, 6 months ago on Peyton Manning Deserves Better | January
@GregC@7IHd And that's the real difference. After a career of being the classiest guy in the NFL, I hold Peyton to a higher standard. Which probably just leaves me way more open to disappointment... but... you gotta have heroes.