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I was in high school when they started up. I didn't really get into them until I was in college, though. Disco came along and derailed me. "Dr. Love" was one of my favorite songs by them.
2 hours, 26 minutes ago on TBT: KISS the Devil, Shame Your Parents
@girl1015 Wow, what flavor of Kool-Aid have you been drinking? This sounds, suspiciously, like the laughable crap I've heard on some of the DC street corners at the Metro; have you been hanging out with one of those Hotep guys? This smacks of their pseudo-racial/racist theories. Let me break it down for you as to why.
1. "It's hard to fight White supremacy in the morning." ~ no need to fight it because I can rise above it. The only supremacy I'm interested in is my own and my family's. How do I gain that supremacy? By educating myself, by succeeding in the life I've planned for myself, by reaching my personal goals, by protecting myself and shaping my own world to my liking. There is no way, in the seven levels of Hell, one can take on an entire race because of the specious belief in their "supremacy". Oh, yes, there are individuals who believe in White supremacy but they don't live in my world; if they tried to invade it, they would be dealt with by both me and my husband. Funny thing is, in all the years we've been married (22), the only negative reactions we've had to deal with have been from BP. Even so, I take people as individuals, not as monoliths. Also, you'll be in that fight by yourself, even if those Hotep guys say they are your allies. That kind of alliance is fleeting, as we have discovered. I haven't seen very many BM even trying to "fight" White supremacy. Some think to gain it by dating/relating/marrying WW. I wish them happy and more power to them if it makes them feel better about themselves.
2. "Lay down with it at night." ~ how does one lie down with an belief? So you're saying that, by virtue of skin color, every White person is a supremacist? Excuse me but what a crock! Again, that's monolithic thinking and I'm not down with that. Have you met every White person in the world? Do you believe every White person is superior to you? I'm going to venture a guess and say no. If not, then what is the problem here?
I respect your preferences. If you love BM and want to be with them, that's fantastic. I wish you well and every success in life. But don't couch it in terms of accusatory guilt to BW who don't see the world as you do. It's boring, trite and useless. My suggestions are to get out more, travel and if you have traveled, travel some more. Start talking to people outside your comfort zone. In the end, we are all human and all have the same basic needs. It takes a lot more energy to fight against a belief you can't change than to fight for a better life for yourself. You are worth it. Be an example to change the world. That's how I live my life. If people don't like it, they can bite me.
6 hours, 27 minutes ago on New Anti-Swirling Meme: “How Can You Oppose Racism And Be Attracted To White Men?”
@Kaiju_Bleu Thank you!
21 hours, 56 minutes ago on JQ Abroad Open Thread: Share Your Overseas Experiences!
@Kaiju_Bleu Wow, reads like a romantic short story! Such a wonderful adventure!
21 hours, 57 minutes ago on JQ Abroad Open Thread: Share Your Overseas Experiences!
@SirLoinDeBeef For normal people, yes, that would have been great. I think that would have gone over their heads, though.
2 days, 20 hours ago on QOTW: “Help! My White Friends Ask My Black Girlfriend Dumb Questions!”
@Browncow @Audenitag This has been my answer, followed with, "I also don't have a penis nor am I a BM so I think it's best if you ask them."
3 days, 3 hours ago on QOTW: “Help! My White Friends Ask My Black Girlfriend Dumb Questions!”
@Keyasha Love it!
@EarthJeff Thanks. He's definitely my knight in shining armor. It does help that he has no tolerance for BS, especially questionable, racist BS. He's gotten so good at spotting it, he sometimes gets it before I do.
3 days, 6 hours ago on QOTW: “Help! My White Friends Ask My Black Girlfriend Dumb Questions!”
LOL, . When Don and I were dating, his family were the culprits. He would always jump in when dumb questions were asked. "Hey, Karla, why would Black people want to sip gin and juice?" Don replied, "How would she know? She doesn't drink gin. And, for the record, White people drink it too. Why don't you ask them?" He gets super-irritated, even when I'm laughing at the stupidity.
3 days, 8 hours ago on QOTW: “Help! My White Friends Ask My Black Girlfriend Dumb Questions!”
I was a military brat and a Naval officer so, yes, I have traveled extensively. I've been to every continent except Australia and Antarctica. I've even been to places most people don't go like Greenland, The Azores, and Diego Garcia. For 43 of my 55 years that's all I did. I was in a different elementary school for every grade. One of the reasons I joined the Navy was so I could travel on their dime. Of course, I didn't really have a choice as to where I went but, more often than not, it was definitely an adventure. I even "cruised" on one of the biggest ships in the world, an aircraft carrier; I met the ship in Mallorca, transited the Straits of Gibraltar, cruised through the Irish Sea, did an exercise in the North Sea, did a port visit to Tromsø, Norway and disembarked on the northernmost tip of Scotland, thus making my way to London. It was amazing! I even did a stint in Saudi! I wouldn't recommend it for everyone and, if I did, I'd say go to college first. But the travel opportunities were unparalleled. To this day, I still have friends all over the world, including a former boyfriend, whom I met in South Korea. He is married to a Chinese woman, an opera singer and lives in Shanghai. Traveling is awesome, should be required for everyone and it changes you, as a person. By the time I was in high school (went to Heidelberg American High School, in Germany), I had been exposed to many different cultures. It made me more well-rounded and understanding. If you get a chance, do it!
5 days, 10 hours ago on JQ Abroad Open Thread: Share Your Overseas Experiences!
Nice retrospective! I was so deep into heavy metal by that time, I missed these guys. Didn't even know Menudo existed until Ricky Martin came out with Livin' La Vida Loca. Sure grew up to be some super hotties!
6 days, 8 hours ago on TBT: Más, Mucho Más Menudo…..
@Lady Cheetah @Karla @darkandlovely @The Working Home Keeper @sparel Super ig-nant!
2 weeks ago on Open Thread: Reader Questions Her Commitment to ‘Black Love’
@Brenda55 I'm trying to remember my parents' Black friends' homes and yep, the putrid orange shag carpet, the Afrocentric artwork (particularly of Jesus) and the wall of mirrors rings a bell. Also, the super, tricked-out stereo system, including a huge, reel-to-reel tape player, was a must in the den and a few hanging lamps too.
2 weeks, 1 day ago on Open Thread: Reader Questions Her Commitment to ‘Black Love’
@Brenda55 @Karla @darkandlovely @The Working Home Keeper @sparel I didn't say it, she did and yes, that's what she meant. The girl went to Howard and thought she was the epitome of Blackness. When I told my mom, she laughed until she cried and asked me where I met these people. If my house is White, then my mom's is super White! @The Working Home Keeper Yes, I have some furniture that is IKEA but it's an eclectic mix. My mom says it looks like a chic, sophisticated New York apartment. I guess that's just too White for some Black folks. Who knows?
@The Working Home Keeper Girl, I could tell you some stories...
@darkandlovely @The Working Home Keeper @sparel Again, the question of "how Black are you?" makes my behind tired. In fact, with all the crazy crap put out there by some BP, my a** is dragging!!! Really, who are the judges of the "degrees" of "Blackness" or even what "Blackness" is and why should I care if I don't measure up to some nebulous idea of "stay Black!"?
I had a friend, a BW, who told me I wasn't Black enough because 1) I had a cleaning woman come to my house, once a week (she was White, not that it has anything to do with it and very well paid; it was her business!); 2) My house didn't "smell" like a Black person's house . When I asked her what that meant, she explained that I didn't have the aroma of fried pork, pressed hair, stale greens and ancient furniture. WTF???; and, last but certainly not least, 3) My furniture looked like WP's furniture. Now, see, here is an example of two divergent cultures sharing the same skin color. We did not remain friends because of my, supposed, Uncle Tom attitude. Whatev. No loss for me.
One more thing. Can we just stop with the "Black" love and "White" love? Love is love. The end.
@Brenda55 Girl, she's the one!!!
2 weeks, 1 day ago on Sirloins’ BB&W Babe Wednesday!!
This letter is interesting, vey introspective; I can feel her hurt, uncertainty and confusion. Here are my thoughts:
1. You write, "I’ve always preferred Black men because of our history and culture and I am physically attracted to them. " and then you write "(i) crave that protection and validation from white men." You feel it's wrong to crave protection but it's okay to like someone because of shared culture and history. Where is the attraction to a person because of who they are? Yes, I understand and agree there are physical attributes that can attract us but you said nothing about being attracted to a person because of their personality and their self-hood. I think that bears some thought. And, it's okay to crave protection. it shows a sense of self-preservation.
2. "Intellectually, I tell myself that it is wrong to seek that validation and that I need to judge people as individuals, but emotionally, I want that validation." No one can validate you but you, so you need to find a way to marry your intellect and emotion. Just like no one can make you happy but you, it all centers around you. I think you need to get to know yourself before getting to know anyone else, Black or White. Much of what you're going through is a b-word slap of truth and because you've never had to think about it, until now, it must be confusing as heck! I get that. But, somehow, you probably should figure out how to undo years of indoctrination so the new you can emerge and begin to live the happy life you deserve.
3. "I find some white men to be handsome, I enjoy their lighter colored eyes, (although i still love brown) but because of our history and cultural differences, I have always been turned off by them in a romantic sense. It seems there is just a gulf between white men/black women when it comes to their understanding of the black experience and that is because their white privilege blinds them." Seriously, do you know any White men and I mean, have you had any as friends? That's quite a leap to say there is a "gulf". May I ask, what "history" have you, personally, had with White men? I'm not talking about the history of ancestors. I'm talking about your personal history. When you can tell me that, then maybe we can revisit this one.
4. " I always thought that Black men and Black women had a special bond because of our culture and the way we’ve been treated globally." I don't know about you, but I've traveled extensively and from infancy; I can truly say I've been treated very well, globally. But, let's address the "special bond". Culture is more than skin color or history. It's things one may have in common, values, ethics, upbringing, education... even you said, "When I got older, I began to notice that a cultural rift between black women and black men was developing." I hate to be the one to tell you this but that rift didn't start to develop when you got older. It was already there and you failed to notice it because you were caught up in your "special bond". I'm sure I'm much older than you are, at 55. I was born in 1959 and have seen the evolution of that rift, from day one. it did not start with your generation.
5. "But at the same time, part of me is saddened because I know that institutional racism & white privilege are a large part of the reason that Black men haven’t been able to give Black women the support that we need..." Okay, now, let's not get it twisted. The cultural rift is not the fault of institutional racism and/or white privilege. As my maternal grandmother used to say, this argument is making my behind tired. Other women, below, have, rightly, pointed out that this didn't seem to affect our families before us. They knew the world around them, knew what they had to do to get ahead and they did it, despite the idiocy of racism. How can you acknowledge that and then use the very same thing as a pathetic excuse for any Black person's recidivist behavior? Just stop. Just as we are responsible for our own happiness and validation, we are also responsible for our own behavior.
I could sit here, all day, and pick this apart, offering my thoughts and arguments but I've got stuff to do. The letter writer sounds like a nice person with a lot of potential and, like every other human being on the planet, deserves happiness, but it must first come from within. I hope she can work her way through her turmoil and get there. I never had the turmoil she is experiencing and I was taught, by those very parents who dealt with Jim Crow, etc. to see me and to see how I could make myself happy, emotionally stable and free. I am an accomplished woman and have been married, to a WM for almost 22 years. No drama, no "white privilege", no cultural differences. You see, we shared the same culture, despite the difference in our skin colors. We recognized that and that's what brought us together. Hopefully, the letter writer will get there too, whichever way she chooses.
I hope you know, this is not just for men. Someone, here, is my new girl crush.
Love this. The more we speak on it, the more of a juggernaut it will become ("juggernaut" is my word of the week!). I dropped ten pounds just by changing one meal and following this dictum from Micheal Pollan: "Eat real food, not too much, mostly plants." I also follow his seven rules: http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/news/20090323/7-rules-for-eating.
2 weeks, 3 days ago on More Black Women Taking Up the Fight to Tackle Obesity
@Brenda55 Woohoo! Go, Miss Thang!
@SirLoinDeBeef @Brenda55 I'll only speak for myself and since I don't label myself as such, I can't answer that question. IMO, objectification is subjective. One person's objectification is another person's pride in their glorious body.
2 weeks, 5 days ago on Caption This. ESPN, The Body Issue.
@Justme65 Hmm, that didn't cross my mind, LOL. I guess we'll never know but if they did, at least they left the mag clean!!!
@Justme65 Of course not! It was office trash and clean. Don wouldn't have touched it, otherwise.
@Brenda55 Yeah, go figure... later, saw Serena's cover, on eBay and Amazon, for insane amounts of money! Someone has some "splaining to do!
I make my own moisturizer of vegetable glycerin and rosewater. I spray it on my locks in the morning and go on about my business. Glycerin is a humectant so it draws water to it; it's so humid here, in VA, my hair stays moisturized very well with this spray. Once a week, I use an oil I make to oil my scalp (mixture of self-extracted saw palmetto, pumpkin, Jamaican Black castor oil, Argan oil, Amla oil and camellia oil). I put a heat cap on for an hour after oiling my scalp and then I'm done. My sister loc technician said I have the best hair out of all her clients. I do use Carol's Daughter Co-wash for cleansing my hair but that's the only thing I buy, already prepped.
2 weeks, 5 days ago on Two Non-Bandwagon Products I’m Using to Keep My Locks Moisturized this Summer
I actually called around to bookstores in my area (after visiting five and no joy) to have them put me five issues on hold. The issue that came out with Serena on the front sold out in two hours around here. I was lucky to get one when someone left the issue in the trash, at Don's job, and he snagged it. I also have it, digitally so I could get all five covers but my five copies are Venus only. I'm giving them, as gifts. She's stunning!
Sigh. I keep asking myself when this reality show "trend" will end but it's obviously a juggernaut and here to stay. Yay, Netflix!
2 weeks, 6 days ago on Why “Marriage at First Sight” Is the Worst Thing to Happen to TV Since “Who Wants to Marry a Millionaire”
3 weeks, 1 day ago on Sirloins’ BB&W Babe Wednesday!!
@Brenda55 Yes, it is.
3 weeks, 1 day ago on That Awkward Moment When Numbskulls Assume Your Biracial Baby Isn’t Yours…
Although the flight attendant's comment was, most likely, innocent, I would expect more from people who work with the public, on a daily basis. I'm not one who does but even I know to think before I speak and am good at doing it, on my feet. As @Brenda55 said, all she had to do was say, "Welcome! What a sweet baby!" and move on. And, I get the writer's reaction. It happens, it keeps happening and one day, it's just too much. I don't have children but I have biracial nieces. I spend quite a lot of time with them and my oldest niece has grown to be fast on her feet; she's a smart cookie and has heard the comments, more than once.
They were staying with me while my sis and BIL went on a second honeymoon. We decided to go ice skating at the local rink. While I was helping my youngest niece, who was three, get her skates on, a woman came up and said, "You're such a wonderful nanny. I've been watching you and you are so good with the kids. Would you consider changing jobs?" Before I could light into her, my older niece said, "Mommy! Don't talk to her! She's a stranger! Remember what you said? Stranger, danger!" She said it loud enough so that the people around us started looking, curiously. The look on the woman's face was priceless! She apologized, profusely, and scrambled back to her kids as quickly as possible. Even the manager came and asked us if we were having a problem with the woman. It was all I could do not to start laughing.
Although the outcome was humorous and very embarrassing for the woman, I was still mad. That wasn't the first time it happened and that was just not the day. Thankfully, my niece saved the woman from getting a verbal beatdown because I was ready to give it to her. We still laugh about it. I'll bet that woman will think twice now before approaching a BW with biracial kids. Lesson dealt by a babe in the woods. Lesson learned the hard way.
@Brenda55 Thanks for pointing out that both these people are jerks. Girlfriend wasn't in it alone. Frankly, she should have passed and not used OK Cupid as a teaching moment. Vetting can include passing on someone you know isn't right for you.
3 weeks, 2 days ago on Ladies, Do NOT Date Interracially if You’re Too Suspicious of White Men. Please. Just…Don’t. (Letter)
Best man candy edition ever!!! Thanks!
3 weeks, 3 days ago on Man Candy Monday: Hollywood Hotties Then, and Now
@MySmile I heard the same about Asheville too.
3 weeks, 3 days ago on Interracial Friendly States, City by City, County by County!
Sure did, for me. I was swirling in infancy.
1 month, 2 weeks ago on The Evolution of a Swirler: One Guy Tells His Story
@DWB That's probably next on the list. I don't know if they do that at the Cali Disneyland but Orlando was out to make as much as possible. I guess they felt they were missing out on photo ops and money so they took advantage of the fact that little kids love to get their photos with the characters. I took the pic of Daisy on-the-fly with my iPhone. I had to be sneaky because I saw Disney employees telling others it wasn't allowed. After all the money people pay, to get in, they should be allowed to do cartwheels at Cinderella's castle!
1 month, 2 weeks ago on Why I Said “Goodbye” to Disneyland, Forever. They’ve Raised Their Prices Too High to Justify.
Yeah, I'm done. As a kid, my fam went every week when my dad was stationed in LA because he got tickets free. As an adult and living in Tampa, Florida, I went to Disney in Orlando about once a quarter. I've been to four of the five Disney parks in the world, including the now-defunct park in Paris. Don and I went to Disney in Orlando, last year to meet his brother and SIL The only reason we went was because Don had never been. Even with military discounts, it was expensive for a three-day pass! What really got me is we had to sneak and take photographs of the Disney characters. They have bodyguards now and if you want a picture, you have to have it taken by one of the official photographers. They actually had lines to get a photo with Mickey or Minnie. We've decided we're done with it. I've got tons of photos and a video of the parade... if I get misty-eyed, I can always take them out.
@Brenda55 @NYMan Exactly, Brenda.
1 month, 2 weeks ago on QOTW: “How Do I Protect My Girlfriend From Racist Family Members?”
@NYMan @Karla Hi, this is Don. Yes, it is sad and very twisted. My brother and SIL don't understand this kind of bigotry either but he is hanging on to it. From time to time, according to them, he will ask if I'm still with Karla, though he calls her out of her name. This is something I won't tolerate so I don't bother with him. He is my biological father and I acknowledge that. I also acknowledge that my parents raised me to be a good man. Why they chose this path is a mystery to me but nothing I can do. It has made me realize that I like who I am and am glad they didn't push their views on me when I was growing up in their house. Life goes on and I choose the happy route. They chose their route and we cannot meet, even halfway.
@Lili2009 @NYMan I hope so. Don can be a lot harder and more unyielding than me but I think it's because it was his family. When his brother held out the olive branch, Don wasn't inclined to accept it. We talked about it, though, and eventually he did. As time passes, he and his brother get closer but I really have to give kudos to our nieces and nephew (and great-hephew!) for not supporting the bigotry. They were little when we got married but the minute they were old enough to contact us without their parents' permission, they did so. I love those kids and are so proud of them!
@NYMan Hi, this is Don, Karla's husband. What she says it true but I thought I should chime in from my POV. When I was five years old, my best friend was a Black boy. His family lived down the street from us. One day, my friend asked me if I knew what the "n" word meant. I said no but my mom would know. We went in to ask her, two little, curious five-year-olds with no idea. My mom went ballistic. She spanked us (this was in the 60s, in a small neighborhood; it was expected), told us never to utter the word again and sent our crying selves back out to the yard. That memory stayed with me so imagine my surprise when she and my father were so against our marriage.
As Karla says, it is what it is. I'll admit, it pissed me off to no end when my parents said what they said. And, yeah, I stewed about it for a few years but I never let Karla know I did. I felt that it was my responsibility to ensure her happiness, as her husband. After a while, like she said, we were so in sync and so happy, my parents' disapproval faded away. I didn't see the point in stewing over something I couldn't change. I love Karla's mom. She's like a mother to me and she told me she considers me one of her sons. Good enough for me. My mom has passed and I'm sorry and sad but I don't feel responsible. She had a long, very painful illness but, in the end, said she felt what she felt and would take it to the grave. My brother told me all of this and said he didn't blame me for pursuing my own life. My brother and my relationship is a work-in-progress after years of no contact. But, the coolest thing he could have done was to send a letter to my beloved wife, apologizing for his behavior. He actually said Karla was a wonderful addition to the family, as far as he was concerned. That took some big ones and now I respect my brother more than ever.
@NYMan Firstly, my post was meant to be truthful. It is what it is but it didn't change our life or our love for each other. Secondly, my FIL is still alive and just as racist as ever. Thirdly, these attitudes were a shock to both Don and me. I had met his parents several times and they seemed fine with our relationship... until we were engaged. Then all of it came out. Basically, his parents said if he married me, that was it for their parent/son relationship. Don was confused because his parents had never shown this propensity for bigotry but I guess they never really had to. He told me it embarrassed and humiliated him in front of the woman he loved. He was angry, at first, but the longer we were married, he let it go because he said the happiness in our relationship totally trumped anything they did. I was a little surprised at their attitude, since they had seemed so accepting when we were dating but I was also realistic. We don't live anywhere near them so we were never going to hear the things they had to say.
Interestingly enough, our nephew is gay and his partner is a BM. He's been disowned as well. He was the first of the kids to call us and came out to us before coming out to his parents, my BIL and SIL. We, wholeheartedly, supported him and let him know he had a place in our home, if the situation ever became unendurable. Thankfully, my SIL had an iron backbone because she told my BIL (who was, to put it mildly, very upset about our nephew's sexual orientation) if he couldn't accept the situation, she would leave him. She said there was no way she was going to be like Don's mother and disown her son. I love her!
I like this QOTW. It shows the guy is very aware how things will go, if he has a serious relationship with a BW. My advice, from experience, is to go with choice number two. I say this because, when it comes to bigotry, they are going to have to be the ones to change; he can't use his Black girlfriend/fiancee/wife as an ultimatum, e.g. "If you love me, you'll accept her." In any adult relationship, a new family unit is formed. He and his future woman will be forming a new family unit. Either the extended family unit accepts her or they don't but both have to move forward. On this day, in 1967, Richard and Mildred Loving's long fight to be together, as a married couple, culminated in cataclysmic social change. They were fighting against an entire state but believed in their love enough to do it. Richard and Mildred's family unit was the most important thing to them and they weren't going to let a state tell them otherwise. The Supreme Court agreed. With that kind of history supporting him, he can do it.
How do I know this? I have been with my husband for 23 years, 23 golden, blessed, wonderful years. His family did not approve of our engagement or marriage. In all the years we've been married, we have not seen his mother or father; they disowned him. His mother died, with hate and bigotry in her heart, never having seen her son again. As deeply sad and disturbing as that is, my family picked up the slack. They welcomed Don, with open arms and he basked in their love. As my mother says, his mom gave birth to a very gifted, loving and wonderful man; too bad she had to miss it due to her ignorance. Eventually, his brother came around because our nieces and nephew grew up and said they weren't going to live without us in their lives. They thought the whole idea of bigotry was stupid. Out of the mouths of (grown) babes.... We lived our lives, beautifully, without his parents. While they were stewing over the fact that their son was a "traitor", we were traveling, working in jobs we loved, and living a beautiful life. As they say, success is the best revenge. At the end of the day, Don understood what he wanted and couldn't see his life without me nor I, without him. That was our number one priority and the rest fell into place. It can work and it can work well. One has to truly know oneself and have the strength to seek the love they want, despite the obstacles.
@Law Wanxi Couldn't have said it better myself!
1 month, 3 weeks ago on Does This Picture Offend You? Now, Ask Yourself, WHY.
I've been observing this conversation and have this to say. I can only address this from my own life experiences. I'm 55, have been with my husband for 23+ years and spent the majority of my life in the military, as a brat and a vet. I have an assortment of diverse friends because of my travels and experiences. The fact is, we all share stories and advice. I can't count the number of times my WW girlfriends have asked for my advice. My AW and LW friends too! I have asked for their advice as well. We have shared just about every topic from race to caste suppression to war to immigration to just getting along as women; the one thing we have discovered is that we have a common denominator and that is our gender. My relatives run the gamut of races. I have four nieces, three of whom are biracial and one who is White. I have a nephew and a great-nephew who are White; my nephew is gay and asks my advice about relationships all the time. Did I mention his partner is a BM? The fact is, the world has changed and to live, peacefully, one must change with it. There may be changes one doesn't like but there are always solutions.
I respect anyone's opinion even if it doesn't jive with mine. I don't expect everyone to think the same way I do and, in fact, I welcome that. Variety makes life so much more interesting. As far as I'm concerned, this QOTW is so similar to conversations I've had with my group of varied friends and my girl posse. Nothing new to see here. I found out about BBW from a WW friend who is married to a BM. The title of this group says it all for me and I look forward to going "beyond". Thanks, Chris!
As for the question, here's my advice and it comes from my experience. My husband's parents disowned him. He knew he loved me with his whole heart and didn't care. As he likes to put it, we are a family now. I am his and he is mine. His brother tried to ally with his parents but my SIL and the kids didn't and when the kids were grown, they said they wanted to be in our lives. Our love saw us through and eventually, at least part of his family saw the light. One way or the other, we were only concerned how we both felt about each other because, at the end of the day, our families can't live our lives. If you can't see your life without him in it, you have to make a decision. Don't get me wrong. It will be tough. But if you love yourself and you love him, you know the answer. My husband's life and mine have been enriched by our marriage. We wouldn't change it for the world. If his parents couldn't support it, their loss. We are growing old together and more in love with each other every day. IMO, that trumps disapproval and bigotry
1 month, 3 weeks ago on QOTW: White Woman Asks, “How Can I Get My Family to Accept My Black Boyfriend?”
Sigh. Not that I care but it will be wonderful when the day comes that people don't think any relationship is "strange" or unacceptable. My husband and I have been married for over two decades. When we first started dating, we were surrounded by hostility on all fronts. Many BM were super hostile. WM didn't seem to care. BW were a mixed bag and some WW seemed to see it as an invitation to flirt. I found it all amusing. We could take care of ourselves so I was never really afraid but it used to baffle me as to why anyone would give two hoots in Hell about us when they didn't know us. His family was problematic but he knew himself very well and knew what he wanted so their reactions became a non-issue for us. We didn't live anywhere near them so it wasn't going to be a problem. My family was fine, especially after they met him. Nowadays, we really don't get the stares... or maybe I'm just immune and don't see them. I say be vigilant but don't let it affect the relationship if that's what you really want. I find humor to be fantastic in situations like this. My husband agrees. His wit is sharp and can be biting. Looky-loos never expect that.
1 month, 3 weeks ago on Interracial Couple Speaks Candidly About Public Onlookers
Boo hoo; poor babies! People need to start doing their own thing and stop acting as if they can be brainwashed at the drop of a hat. If BW want to roll around in Black love, do so. They need to stop accusing others of trying to make them do something they don't want to do. They're adults and the last time I looked, they do have free will. What I want to know is why are they reading these pages, reading Swirling and any other media that supports swirling when it has nothing to do with their needs. Keep on stepping and go where the support is. Ain't no one on the swirl side trying to stop you from doing you. The whole self-righteous indignation is so boring already.
2 months, 1 week ago on Why Do Some Black Women Think I’m Trying to “Force” Them to Swirl?!
@UnlimitedBeauty Exactly. I never dated anyone in my department but, from time to time, I had to stand a watch with someone I dated. Again, discretion and professionalism made the difference.
2 months, 1 week ago on The Great Debate Between Me and Matthew Hussey: Should You Date at Your Workplace?
@Brenda55 Yes, my advice as well. The Navy didn't discourage workplace relationships but they didn't encourage them either and, of course, there were rules about how and whom one dated to ensure good order and discipline. They could do that. They expected discretion, no drama and had a "suck it up and make it work" policy if the relationship went sour. They had the power to enforce all of it. As with anyplace where humans congregate, people tried to push the edge of the envelope but, in true, military fashion, it was firmly (sometimes brutally) suppressed. My dating pool was the military because I ate, drank and slept it. Some dates were from the same command but not the same department. Others were completely different services. I dated and ended up marrying a co-worker. We kept it super quiet. Others may have speculated but when we announced our engagement, most people were shocked. My boss kept asking, "How did I not know this?" We showed nothing, not even a sappy look. While at work, we only discussed work. He worked in a completely different department from me so the Navy would have had no problems, had they known. We were the same rank so there were no problems with fraternization. We just decided to keep it private because we had seen other couples crash and burn but had to continue to work with each other; at the same time, there were many successful co-working couples, who married. Again, "discretion" made the difference.