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Well all i can say is that PageLines has done a fantastic job to this point in the creation of DMS. We are absolutely loving it. Can't wait to see where this goes from here. Thanks :)
1 year, 7 months ago on DMS Reviews & Roadmap
@Dannyh @florantcreative @CaseyGraffix OK I've sent you a email.
1 year, 8 months ago on Your DMS awaits.
If I use DMS to create the design for the client and then lockout the features how would the client update the text and images, scroller images, basically maintain the content within their site. There's more to CMS than a blog.
Yes otherwise it's not really providing a CMS to the client.
Sorry this was a reply that ended as a new post, I was trying to figure out how to give a client access to the builder once I handover the site, usually I make them a author and handover that way, locking the DMS features using the wp-config as documented closes off any tools the client would have to edit hero sections and so forth, leaving the options open to the client leaves them with access to my activation code, how do we give a final design to a client and protect our account at the same time.
I'm new to pagelines and DMS and this was the first thing I tried, once the toolset is locked then there's no access to edit the components at all,. I'm not sure how this can be the final product for a developer unless one is designing static sites for clients. It kind of defeats the purpose of using WP if a client only has access to blog posts and new page options.
@scoophk Another way around this issue is to use a custom widget called 2046~ Easy which will allow you to insert anything as a looper and place it in a widitized box allowing the end user to still add post etc as required. 2046 allows anything to be looped based on meta, cats, post and so on.
@scoophk @CaseyGraffix Open up you wp-config.php file and find this line define('WP_DEBUG', false);
Now right after that line add the following:-
define( 'PL_EDITOR_LOCK', 'admin' );
Is there a way around the following requirement?
If we develop a clients web site for them and do the hand over, then proceed to lock out the editor so they can't access our developers license then how do they edit the majority of their website, i.e Hero Box text and so forth. Seems like the system isn't designed to cater for this type of use which in my opinion make the system pretty limited.
Are there going to options at some stage that lock out the design features but allow end user access to edit the components that were added to the system.
@Brenden @Matthew01970 @nphaskins But isn't the term life 'software life' the life of Pagelines? Pagelines selling shelf life has expired in its current form and replaced with a new piece of software called DMS.
I'm sure you still own PageLines like i do so you still have functioning software and I'm sure the Page Lines staff will give you access to your PageLines downloads if you email them.
But DMS is a new invention so I can't see how you expect to receive this under your old agreement, black and white to me.
@Dannyh @CaseyGraffix Fantastic, you just made my night. Cheers!!!!!!
@nphaskins @CaseyGraffix Awesome, is this something that needs to be discussed in forums once they are up and running later in the week or is there a function that i can call. Thanks :)
Nick, I have a question that i cant find the answer to anywhere. Just playing with DMS and loving it. BUT once i complete a site and hand it over to the client how do I prevent them from accessing my PL code under the account sections, is there a way to lock down this area. Thanks in advanced.
Yeah - Well done to all involved, it truly is amazing and YES I now agree will be a game changer.
Found this and it also looks very interesting, seems as if they are going down the DMS path also, no mention on when it will be released though. http://ultimatumx.com they are also claiming it to be the ultimate design suite???
1 year, 8 months ago on What is a DMS?
10 hours to go - yippee
Oh, I think that's a little rude of him BUT it was going to happen shortly after release anyway. I think I'll be going with innovators rather than a team that can only copy a great idea. At least you know better for future. Only 5 more sleeps now :)
1 year, 8 months ago on What competitors think about DMS
@nphaskinsSorry this just looks like every other design I've seen from Pagelines. At the time i was looking for a new solution I was unable to re-create my concept for the client exactly as required.
For example http://www.terrafirmalabs.com.au/production/index.php this is the site I'm currently developing and I could not get this design to work with P.L. Hence i went back to my normal way of designing using Dreamweaver. Everything within this page can be edited via my CMS if this could be re-created exactly out of the box I'd love to hear how.
If I have to start hacking things to do it in PL I may as well do what i do now and use Dreamweaver. Is my point still nonsense? I think not. The point I was trying to make is that I had hoped DMS would allow for such layouts not functions.
1 year, 8 months ago on The problem with themes…
Well hopefully you have managed to allow any type of web design to be created. Themes to me are like the old web site templates. They look fantastic with the authors content but as soon as you set them up and add your clients real content the entire design goes out the window.
Most themes and templates are built to cater for a certain unrealistic size text block set by the designer so they look amazing but as soon as 'real life' data is used - a template or theme goes out the window.
I'm a designer and developer by trade so i'm used to designing a mockup concept for my clients exactly how I want knowing I have the skills to create the site structure to fit, this is time consuming to say the least and not so much fun as you also discussed, so far no-one has managed to generate a theme that can cater for this way of working. You have to fit into the designers theme layout.
I don't want cookie cutter designs i want FREEDOM to parrot William Wallace.
If you have managed to unlock the hand holding design constraints then I think you have a winner and I'll certainly re-visit the drag and drop revolution that may or may not be on its way. Dropping coding all together would be a relief and i could go back to design and function rather than coding and bug searching.
WOW this has become a SH#T fight. Somehow i think this ranting will all be for nothing, I'll just keep my opinions to myself until the pricing structure hits, I'm sure we will all benefit in the long run.
1 year, 8 months ago on Why DMS will be open source.
@arpowers @musicman75 Can you just confirm that the subscription base is similar to the PLUS version we have now and that its not per client? If so thats OK with me.
@flidget So give us a hint of how the subscription will be based or are you fishing for comments so this blog article rises in value, surely a pricing structure can be presented here to stop speculation. - Fans the fire a little more :)
@arpowers @CaseyGraffix OK I'll wait to see where you are going with this but in the meantime i think i'll start looking for a backup plan.
Well I'm sure glad i didn't purchase Pagelines last week only to read that you are going to a subscription based system, I'm not going to get a very good reaction when i tell clients you have to pay for your web site on an ongoing basis along with your hosting fees. I don't mind paying a monthly fee for support but to have to pay for animation to keep working, pfft are your Adobe in disguise?