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Dion is worth a late 1st and a prospect (and we take back a bad contract of which the Oilers have a few).
Bernier is worth a 2nd and a prospect, similar to what we paid for him.
That package does not get you anywhere near Draisaitl let alone Draisaitl + a 1st!
Draisaitl was a 3rd overall pick, which is worth three late first round picks. If you did Dion + Bernier + NSH 1st for Draisaitl + bad contract then maybe.
Anyway, moot point as Dion and his wife fancy themselves too much to move to EDM.
4 days, 3 hours ago on Tuesday Mashup: Todd McLellan in play
@BPsotka @Omac13 A 2nd overall for Kessel? You guys are the reason Leafs fans are ridiculed around the league. This is it right here.
5 days, 3 hours ago on Toronto Maple Leafs’ Kyle Dubas on Brady & Walker
@Omac13 Just delete your own comment.
@ingy56 @B_Leaf @VaiveOClockSomewhere Yeah, he just doesn't have any character of his own. But, I think, as with some of the other guys, with the right character in place he would follow the example.
@Leafs_17 @Dan39 You're going from one terrible argument to another.
@Burtonboy @Dan39 @VaiveOClockSomewhere Yeah, it is surely a deep shit hole, but my point is if you make $8mm/yr and you're 25, you would live in Manhattan. And Manhattan if you're young and rich > Toronto every day.
@Burtonboy @Dan39 @VaiveOClockSomewhere I fly to NJ all the time (Newark) and then take a cab to Manhattan...
@Burtonboy @VaiveOClockSomewhere Why is NJ a worse city to play in than TO?
@Leafs_17 @Dan39 Barkov alone is worth more than Kessel.
@Leafs_17 @B_Leaf Don't be ridiculous.
@B_Leaf 11th pick for Kessel plus a prospect is possible.
Kessel is worth two late firsts plus a prospect. And an 11th is worth two late firsts IMO.
@Pinky12 @nrandreycharles Awesome.
1 week, 6 days ago on Monday Mashup: Sorting Through the Rubble
@Burn_the_Loov_Boats @Dan39 If you're a poor person. Do you want to be poor?
@Burtonboy If he gets injured it'll help our tank next year.
Too early for that?
@Burn_the_Loov_Boats The GDP per capita is the lowest in Canada but for the Maritimes...
@totalrebuild @Dan39 @Burn_the_Loov_Boats @LN-093 I agree, I hate Paris actually. It's still a major, world city though. Singapore I've never been to. London is one of my favourite places along with NYC (Manhattan). Tokyo I can tell you is incredible - really clean and functional and ridiculously huge - in the Yokohama area are 60 million people or something...
@LN-093 @Dan39 Yeah, there are lots of hardworking, creative, brilliant french people. I assume if you want to be successful and you're young, you try and leave Quebec.
@LN-093 @Dan39 @Burn_the_Loov_Boats I agree, NY has Harlem and so on. But you just don't go to those places so they're irrelevant except when the residents wander out and commit crimes.
@LN-093 @Dan39 Oh yeah, no doubt that is true. Montreal was left in the 70's. After the banks started leaving, it was all over... Socialism doesn't work.
@Burn_the_Loov_Boats @Dan39 @LN-093 Then you should know that Toronto is not world class at all. It is a regional city.
New York, Hong Kong, London, Singapore, Paris, etc - world class.
Toronto is in the second or third tier.
@LN-093 World class? Have you traveled anywhere outside of Canada?
@Burtonboy @Dan39 Yeah, just kills me to see our boy out there getting abused like that. And it's not like it's just a little rough-housing - 3 inches and that contact could have been to his chin and we'd be talking about a concussion. Marlies have McLaren in the lineup FFS and he does nothing to address the issue. Hard to motivate ex-NHL tough guys when they know they're not getting another contract...
2 weeks, 4 days ago on Wednesday Mashup: Brendan Leipsic hat trick has Marlies within striking distance of playoff spot
@Leafs_17 @Dan39 @Burtonboy You are telling me about how hockey works?
@Burtonboy Looked like he was going to beat the back checker clean with an outside in move and the guy clipped him intentionally with either an elbow or shoulder (happened quick) - nobody did anything to address it, about what you'd expect in the Leafs system. Anyway, Nylander skated back to the bench and then sat on the end of it facing away from the ice talking to the trainer for a while. My feeling was he was okay and might have come back if the game was closer.
EDIT: Nylander just gets abused all night. He drew at least two penalties by taking a shot to the face once and dumped in front of the net with a cross-check another time. If it wasn't for the refs watching him - they actually were laughing at one point about it - he'd be getting seriously injured. Other teams just want to kill him.
@Alec Brownscombe @Dan39 Okay, if you thought it was something not to be talked about that's fair enough. I know you guys are trying to keep it very clean here.
1 month, 1 week ago on The 25 Controversies (And Counting) Involving The Toronto Maple Leafs & Toronto Media This Season
" … What’s that? He didn’t miss practice, he missed a team meeting?"
You guys are completely clueless and naive if you think Kadri got suspended for three games for missing a team meeting - wow.
@Alec Brownscombe @Dan39 @HHT @Jay_Berg As you know, I did not suggest it happened.
1 month, 3 weeks ago on Phil Kessel, Kyle Dubas speak out on media treatment in Toronto
@Alec Brownscombe @Dan39 @HHT @Jay_Berg Particularly with the dollars today, Alec - it has changed dramatically from the 90s for example
@Alec Brownscombe @Dan39 @HHT @Jay_Berg Playing hockey for large audiences makes them celebrities and objects of intrigues and so on - you can't separate one from the other.
It's like saying actors shouldn't have to be celebrities... Yeah, they are and they should.
And every last one of them knew it going in, too.
@ninepaces This is the note on the timeline we look back at, for sure.
The day the team begged for mercy from the media.
@HHT @Dan39 @Jay_Berg The tweet suggested something that wasn't rumoured sorry, there were other rumours about something else that were widespread and variously reported by different sources. As I said, I'm not getting into it.
I just don't feel sorry for celebrities in general - you make millions off your celebrity, you take the good with the bad. That's all.
@Alec Brownscombe @Dan39 @Jay_Berg Take their humanity away - come on, somebody said so and so slept with so and so - it should just be brushed off as ridiculous and not commented on, The fact that they went ballistic over it, perhaps tells us something.
@Alec Brownscombe @Dan39 @Jay_Berg They are celebrities, people say shit about them all the time. It goes with the territory - they need to have thick skin about it.
@Radar O'Rielly Who cares? We don't want the high end guys, we want the bargain bins guys who want to come outperform on expiring deals and get resigned for money and term next year.
1 month, 3 weeks ago on Deadline passes with core largely in tact
@colino17 @mcloki I think they should do it - it would be a classy move for guys that put it all on the line for us.
@Burtonboy Man, I liked Knoedel. I guess they just want to get him more ice.
@mcloki That would be awesome. Do we play the Habs again?
@TheLoovTrain @Radar O'Rielly Booth would be a beast in the AHL - I doubt he makes it through waivers, though.
We do need guys like him though that can throw the body. We already have a lot of small guys and more young guys coming that need someone to have their back for confidence.
@sniperstar @Radar O'Rielly He's not that tough for the AHL though. I kinda think we need to keep Devane or McLaren or both! I'd be in favour of adding a middlewieght, as well.
@HHT It's a joke based on strong rumours about the same thing. Lupul will be hearing about this on the ice, can only imagine the merciless chirping he'll get
1 month, 3 weeks ago on Dave Nonis Post-Deadline Media Address
@HHT Hopefully Lupul stays away from his wife.
@cryptotho Missed out on Winnik - other GM's were stunned at that return... Nonis did well on that. You could argue maybe we should have got more for Franson, but even that deal at the time was not expected to yield a first and there was significant risk in waiting. Santo was not supposed to get a second and I feel we got the equivalent with Leipsic.
Overall, Nonis has done really well on the deals he made - not even factoring in Clarkson - and the only slight complaint if any is that he didn't do more good deals.
@416TML @Dan39 @ninepaces Of course he's replaceable - that goes without saying. The only debate is whether he is totally worthless or has some value. Clearly, after the trade, he has some value. I think if he hadn't gotten injured, we might have got a 4th for him.
@416TML @Dan39 @ninepaces You're an idiot, dude. I have season seats to the Marlies - I've been watching him for years... And that is totally irrelevant because he's played the last 30 games or something in the NHL. As I said, in the last few weeks he's been one of our better defenseman.
@Luke_R Oh man, they needed Phaneuf in the worst way - what happened?
@MaxwellHowe It's usually right before the first round, right?
@NiagaraFallsThunder @GeorgeCastanza @Marlies Man @FRyan Yeah, won't allow them to fail and prove him wrong. So there you go Mcdavid to Arizona.
@ninepaces @416TML What are you guys talking about ? He was one of our better defenseman the last few weeks and he was only 27... Late bloomer.
@Marlies Man @FRyan Yeah, because the league has always helped out the Leafs... Oh wait