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@arpowers @jancaynes I have quite a few sites on Framework (and still a few on Platform Pro) and I'm happy with them how they are. I don't really want to go down the upgrade/migration route to DMS (or, the theme you create with DMS). I'm not expecting Framework to be working after Wordpress 4, but I would appreciate it if my site were still running smoothly for another year :)

1 year, 2 months ago on What is a DMS?

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@JangoBout this is the best comment anyone has made so far!

1 year, 2 months ago on The problem with themes…

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@hennings @MintPrints It's not a theme, it's a framework ;)

1 year, 2 months ago on The problem with themes…

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I love the way that professional web developers are crying over how easy it is for anyone to make a website. Do you know what killed your industry? $2000+ static sites, and never answering the phone because you only work at night. I'll make my own from now thank you please x

1 year, 2 months ago on The problem with themes…

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@Malcolm Finch I wouldn't worry too much about that footer leaf. You will always be able to remove any footer credit with custom CSS or by editing the them files. Very tricky if your a novice (like me) but someone will figure it out and post it in the forum within 5 seconds of DMS being released if that were the case.

1 year, 2 months ago on Why DMS will be open source.

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@webranger1962 @nphaskins Reading between the lines, I don't believe that the subscription will have any effect on websites that have been built with the 'extra' tools. I'm guessing that if you have one site, you can build it then cancel the subscription as you no longer need access to the 'extra' tools or support. However, if you are developing sites constantly for yourself or customers, it makes sense to stick with the subscription and pay for the software your using to continually be improved. Also, the base DMS is free. So unless PageLines intend to have a one-off activation fee with their subscription, there won't be any money "dropped".


I am a customer, so I would like someone from PL to confirm or correct this.

1 year, 2 months ago on Why DMS will be open source.

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Thanks for the reply. I was hating on PL when I first heard, but I'm looking forward to it now. I think most of the complaining is because people remember how FrameWork retired all the other paid themes not so long ago, and are expecting that same 'robbed' feeling.

People can only complain if FrameWork is retired. That would pi$$ me off big time! Hopefully it won't :)

1 year, 2 months ago on Why DMS will be open source.

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I've read through every comment since launch was announced, and it seems to me that;

1) DMS will be a free framework for everyone

2) extra dev tools for people who want them will be available to paid subscribers

3) sites can be built with or without the extra dev tools and are independant from any subscription, so will function regardless

4) 3rd party addons are 1 time fee

5) the paid dev tools are (possibly) a chrome addon, seperate to the theme

Can somebody please confirm or correct these assumptions? Thank you

1 year, 2 months ago on Why DMS will be open source.

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Agreed. It's great that PL are bringing out new products but if Framework is dropped ill be gutted.

1 year, 2 months ago on Why DMS will be open source.

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Can someone from PageLines tell me how long FrameWork will be supported?


When I originally bought it I thought I was upgrading from Platform Pro so that all my sites would still work, but it turned out to be a completely different theme and the switch over for all my sites was horrendous. It's obvious that DMS is a completely separate theme to FrameWork, and I look forward to testing it out on new projects, so my concern now is that FrameWork will be abandoned and eventually (quite soon) be a brick because all the focus is on new (recurring) customers and not previous customers and their legacy products.

1 year, 2 months ago on Why DMS will be open source.

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@MikeBauhof They have disabled the option to upgrade to plus so that current customers not on plus will have to pay full whack for the new software. I'm just hoping the upgrade will cost less than $197 this time!

1 year, 2 months ago on Our Future Together.

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Where is the option to sign up to plus? Looks like it's been removed.

1 year, 3 months ago on Our Future Together.

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