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Certainly not! Its about identifying and maximizing your competitive advantage while minimizing your your comparative weakness. Anderson is a consistent threat that stretches the floor for your abundance of slashing guards. Anderson is an impact player, but a position the pelicans have depth at. Asik is a capable defender down low (and certainly benefited from the direction ofthe low post deity Mchale) and a good rebounder but Im not convinced that he is of the same caliber.
1 year ago on New Orleans Pelicans Waive Lance Thomas, Sign Stiemsma
I think Asik for Anderson would be selling low. Asik is certainly serviceable at center but I'm not sure teams went into time outs saying "We have to control Asik" while Anderson had some coaches pulling out their hair.
Youtube of Stiemsma teaching how to block a shot.
Its not the ability to garner a superstar rather the belief that the Pelicans are more than 2 holes away from contention. Injuries aside they were 18 wins out of the 8th playoff spot in the west. Jrue likely makes a difference of 5 games. Davis continuing to improve and acclimate brings in another 5? In the absence of other developments that still leaves the Pelicans 8 games short of being the nearly irrelevant 8th seed. There is no guarantee that draft picks equate to great players but the Hornet's last season showed was that they arent a couple moves from the top, they are a couple of players from the bottom. Moving forward in the short term the Pelicans realistically have no help coming in the draft. FA are expensive and more so for non-contending teams. So New Orleans is now left with "out smarting the field" or "over-paying" in a small market. Maybe Dell can do it, maybe Jrue is actually the just beginning a long string of All star seasons. Maybe they can add an impact SF and climb up into the 5th seed, or maybe we'll see Noel, Burke and McLemore all become solid contributors and next years pick will only be a # 10 and a player like Bynum, Paul George, Brook Lopez, or Brandon Jennings.
1 year ago on Pelicans Beat: Looking at Tyreke, Iggy, Gordon, and Predicting How This Whole Thing Plays Out
The list of picks is cherry picking though. You can find excellent players throughout the drafts and after the 10th pick. David West was 18th..
1 year ago on In the NO Podcast Episode 141: Pelicans trade for Jrue Holiday during NBA Draft
Holiday isnt CP3, or Westbrook or Parker or Irving. He's not Curry, Wall or Williams. So the One time all star (last player of the bench) is young and may develop into more but he's not a been a supper-star. He does firm up the position for the length of his contract. He will be fun to watch and won't be a liability on D and maybe he will address the turnovers.
I'm not sure looking down at the Bobcats is something that Pelican fans can comfortably do.
1 year ago on Pelicans Beat: 5-on-5 about Jrue, the 2014 pick, Vasquez, and Nerlens Noel
I liked McLemore, I liked Burke if PG was a necessity. I'm not sure Jrue is a "third tier" talent but I'm not sure he's better than an occasional All Star. Quick question over the next 4 years who will have more All star appearances Jrue or McLemore? In 4 years will Burke be an All-star, A starter, A Back up or out of the league?
Well I hope my concerns are unfounded. Jrue will be looking for his big payday and maybe the Hornets will be able to take care of him then.
It just seems to me that while they traded this years pick at its peak value they traded next years at its lowest point.
1 year ago on New Orleans Pelicans Make Blockbuster Trade for All-Star Jrue Holiday
Not forgetting. Just dont think that anyone says to CP3 "I'd love to win championships with you and David West but I'm not going to play for Byron scott.
If Gordon lives up to potential, Davis continues to improve and the Pel's find an impact 3 I dont think the 5th seed is unreasonable.
Jrue was 17th in a mediocre draft. There is likely to be assets there if you can identify them. Top 5 protected means if your one of the worst 3 teams we wont take your pick. Well Hornets werent in that category this year, but pretty close. If the Pel's sniff the playoffs this year then the pick means less. If Burke turns out to be the real deal....ouch.
My point is not that you keep Noel. I liked Burke, 10 million more cap space and a 2014 lottery pick. I think the trade says get as good as you can now even if it costs you future assets. I think you want your top players reaching their peak at the same time to contend. By the time Davis (and perhaps Rivers) reach their peak, Jrue will be gone and their wont be young talent coming up behind to replace him as they will likely be out of the lottery by then.
Stats say Vazquez was better than average. Still Jrue is certainly quicker but he's not been vastly superior. He has is near the leauge lead in Turnovers. He is a one time allstar no question. I just dont think its the long term strategy of the trade makes sence unless you think that the trade makes them contenders now.
If CP3 couldnt convince FA to come to Nola Jrue is not going to.
Funny how Del couldnt get the 35 out of them....Still WTH is going on with the 42 pick????Another PG?
Healthy & Committed is a lot to ask from a guy who hasnt recently shown to be either.
Still I think even firing on all cylinders Houston will be a tough nut to crack if you believe the FA rumors. Min doesnt look good to me, I think the Lakers are in trouble though so the Pel's will have that.
Not tank but build a contender. Get players who will be hitting their prime at the same time as Davis. Being a team whose ceiling is the second round of the playoffs doesnt seem to be worth selling the upside.
To be clear, I think the Pel's will be better and more entertaining next year. I just think they had much more glaring needs than another PG.
The "cornerstone" likely will not be in his prime for another 4 years. History says the Pel's shouldnt be thinking about putting the all-stars around him now, but thinking about what the team will be in 2018-19. I dont think New Orleans has the assets to surround him with enough great players to bring them into contention in the next couple of years and so I think a longer term solution is called for.
The greatest need for the Pel's statistically was at the 3. At PG the Pel's have been better than average. Heck the Pel's have traded away more decent PG talent in the last 3 years than most teams ever see.
Jrue was a 17th pick himself. He worked out. I dont think the trade makes the Pel's worse, I think it sells them short.
The worst part of the CP3 trade isnt Rivers. Its EG and now it looks like Pel fans are hoping and dreaming on him...
Because you arent a magnet for FA your draft picks have to be relatively more valuable to you, not less. I think Holiday has 3 years left on his extension doesn't he?
If you could make that work trade wise, he's good player, not someone who is going to be a real difference maker though is he? Do teams playing the bull's say "We're not going to let Deng beat us?" not really
Rivers moves to the backup 2.
There are lots of busts and Hindsight is a wonderful tool to highlight them. The problem with that stategy though is your selling all your upside. If you dont have an ability to compete for talent in FA, and sorry the Pel's dont they will never get better than average.
If you were going to trade EG for picks or projects you would have drafted Burke. I dont see anyone trading a real difference maker for EG. I think this trade says EG is staying put.
They need to be approved by the commissioner's office
I think the Pel's got a good player. I think they paid too much for him in terms of the assets that they have.I dont mind grabbing a PG but your paying a lot in terms of picks. It still doesn't do anything to address the problems at the 3 (and 2 if EG plays like the player last 2 years have shown him to be.)
True enough but I dont think the Pel's are a SF away. I think it will take our Unibrowed friend 2 more years to "come of age" and in the interim think a 1st rounder in a strong draft would be worth more than Holiday over a developing Burke.
I hate this trade for several reasons.
Holiday is an upgrade over Vasquez but is he an upgrade over Burke, 9-10 million dollars and a lottery pick next year? It also seems to signal that the Pel's want to win 10 more games next year at the cost of 50 more games between 2015~19.
I could see trading for a 3. I could see trading EG to allow Rivers to develop and using the pick to go after a "floor general to develop alongside the youngsters looking to the 2017 season as western contenders. As it stands this looks like "We want to get mediocre in a hurry!"