King of the Kessel
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@djamon @King of the Kessel Lower down on the board someone shared their opinion that the jury was still out on Kessel (paraphrase) in terms of his ability to be a big game player. In addition to that, I've had discussions with friends recently who still hold the opinion he's not a player you can win with.
1 year, 9 months ago on <!--:en-->Where does Dave Bolland fit in?<!--:-->
New rule, if you're still questioning Kessel after the series he just had against Boston - this on top of the fact he is a legitimate top 10 scorer in the NHL - your opinion doesn't count!! lol
I'm just kidding, but I find it hard to believe there are still so many doubters. What does the guy need to do!?
I saw some of the discussion regarding Clutterbuck on the boards today, so I did some crunching of the numbers to come up with his average season based on the last 4 years (3 full plus the lockout shortened season). Here is how it turned out:
74GP 14-11-25 73PIM 15:13TOI 1:30SHTOI 305HITS 40.6%OZONE START
Looks like a good, defensive minded third-line winger to me. The 305 hits would rank right near the top of the league for a forward. In fact, he did lead the league in that regard 2 of the 4 years that I looked at. Additionally, the 40.6% of starts in the offensive zone falls in line with other forwards who play in a shutdown role.
I was a big fan of Komarov's play this past season, and hated to see him go. However, if as rumoured, we are able to make a play for Clutterbuck, it looks as though it would be a slight to moderate upgrade. He's also quite a bit bigger than Komarov (1 inch taller, but 25 pounds heavier).
I think if we were able to trade for Clutterbuck, and then further add a winger for the top six to bump Kulemin down a spot, we might have ourselves a pretty good shutdown line in Clutterbuck-McClement-Kulemin. We all know how Carlyle values such a line. What do you guys think?
1 year, 9 months ago on <!--:en-->Draft Weekend: Who we takin’?<!--:-->
@.JVR. @King of the Kessel My guess is that the Leafs management believes that Bernier has a significantly higher ceiling that Reimer. But, that's just a guess.
1 year, 9 months ago on <!--:en-->The off season is here<!--:-->
@.JVR. @djamon I'm a pretty big Frattin fan. The thing is though, when we talk about potential, we have to remember that we got the youngest(!!) of the 3 players in the deal. Not only that, he plays the position that players tend to take the longest to develop to their potential in.
We're a hard bunch to please, aren't we fellow Leaf fans!?!? I thought things would settle down after a few days with regards to the negative emotions regarding the Bernier trade. Obviously there are no guarantees, but we added a potential no 1 goalie for a couple useful, but fairly easily replaceable, players. Even if you don't love the deal, what's done is done, let's all band together in rooting for Bernier to become a beast in our crease!!! I find the negativity surrounding adding a young, top end in terms of potential, goalie a little surprising. Every goalie (well, alomost every...) has to be a backup before they can be a starter. I think we should be delighted that we just added a goalie who not only is believed to have franchise potential, but who also has had the benefit of spending his early years learning from one of the best in the business - seems like the ideal development process to me.
Liking that the handful of reactions I've seen from Kings fans are that of disappointment in losing Bernier...even though they knew it was coming. Seems like a well-liked guy. Also, the fact that many in the MSM are still pumping his tires now that he's a Leaf is shocking ;)
1 year, 9 months ago on <!--:en-->Weekend at Bernier’s<!--:-->
@Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs @King of the Kessel I'm encouraged by the reports that Bernier's agent has already touched base with Leafs management regarding an extension. Hopefully, we see something official in the next few days.
@Jordan29 @King of the Kessel I think that emotional attachment is natural, and actually a good thing as it shows the passion we have for our Leafers from the NHL roster on down to the unsigned draft picks, but it can certainly skew our view when a trade first breaks.
Long time reader, first time poster...
I think when a deal like this gets made, it's important to remove any emotional attachment that one has with regards to any players involved, before trying to assess the transaction that has taken place.
I say this because, as fans watching young players come up through the organization that we cheer for, it is easy to pull for the personalities that we like, and are invested in, for reasons other than their actual abilities on the ice.
I'm a big Matt Frattin fan, when he's on he looks like a legitimate 2nd/3rd line tweener with a physical presence and nice hands, and definitely with a hell of a shot. He contributed to the physical/along the boards game that we desperately needed. Scrivens was always a great interview, obviously an intelligent guy, who provided some solid goaltending when called upon. He was a guy who was easy to pull for because of the work he put in with the Marlies, and especially, because of the great playoff run to the Calder Cup finals last season.
Bernier is, and has been for the last few years, regarded as one of the top young goaltending talents in the World. His name gets mentioned these days alongside those of Markstrom, Lehner, etc - goalies a few years removed from their draft years and getting close to making big impacts with their respective organizations. In previous years (as recent as last summer) the names associated with this category were Rask, Schneider, and Bobrovsky. Additionally, the fact that he has not yet established himself as a no. 1 goalie is of no fault of his own - he happens to be stuck behind one of the top goalteners in the NHL. Bernier has excelled at every level he has played in, and would arguably already be a starter in most other organizations. When you look at age & potential, the opportunity to acquire a goalie of this stature is very rare.
Anyway, this is my long-winded way of saying that, when I can get past my emotional attachment to the players affected by this transaction - the ones on their way to LA and James Reimer (who by all accounts is a fantastic, very likable person, and a heck of a goalie at that) - I come to the conclusion that it was a very shrewd move by Nonis. Players with elite talent (and I have no doubt that Bernier fits in that category) very rarely come available at an age where they are primed to break out, and without bringing an albatross of a contract with them.