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@benbackstreet And the Kings couldn't figure out how to use "pure gold"!! Totally amazed and baffled by this for 3 years!! And I'm not a Jimmer fanatic. I'm just more stunned no Kings coach knew how to use someone with such an offensive talent. "THE" most important talent in offense. Such a head shaker.
We'll see I guess with his new team whether he was really a wash or not.
1 year ago on Why Jimmer Fredette no longer made sense for the Sacramento Kings
CRAP title for this article. You said nothing!!
Super Disappointed with the Kings. Even this New Organization couldn't find a way of using someone with this type of shooting talent. Unbelievable!! A team could be doing everything right in a game. But if you can't put the ball in the hole as the Kings couldn't do as in tonight's first quarter, YOU LOSE! Ultimately baskets wins games. And we got rid of the best capable shooter on the team. And couldn't find a way of using him!! Blown away Unbelievable!!! Sad day as a King fan and ashamed. Good Luck Jimmer and I wish you the best. And as much a King fan I am, I hope every time you play us, You Kill US!! We (the coaching staff) deserve every spanking you give us. Stay Classy and have a wonderful career!!
1 year ago on WATCH: Pete D'Alessandro on potential Jimmer Fredette buyout
they have Jimmer at 1.217 PPS. IT at 1.318. Acy at 1.330 & Cus at 1.357. Didn't see a TS% header.
Don't get me wrong. I like and want Jimmer to really explode and start showing his stuff. He just needs more time on the floor. I think someone is nuts for not giving him more chances to shine.
1 year ago on Will Jimmer Fredette see reduced minutes for the Sacramento Kings?
@Charger11 Sorry. You're right. I should have said "for this team". His points per shot are just behind Cousin and Acy. I'm just a Kings fan.
@Charger11 @Mad Dam @TABDOG I can't argue with your negativity here. I'm quite baffled myself and understand your frustration. I understand the point "Defense wins games". But not without balls in the basket!!
@daddychop @Charger11 Well, we had a pass first PG in GV, no? Players need to get open in order to be passed to, No? And when passed to, shots need to go in the basket to count, no?
Why do you think Malone leaves IT in when he dribbles around looking for his shot? He's far from being a coach to not sit a player who he disapproves of their play.
IT's strength is breaking down the defense with his dribbling to find a shot. And his percentages are high. So teams double him trying to stop him. It's then IT looks for the other open player to pass to. Unlike Gay who never seems to pass and who takes horrible shots no matter how many people are doubling up on him. I always feel more comfortable when IT shoots than any other on the team. He's got the touch more so than many on the team, most nights. And usually he takes over late in the game because those who he does find open are not consistent with their shots taken and we are behind in points. Granted, Gay can make some amazing shots in those situations mentioned above. But he should be the one your complaining about when it comes to "moving the ball and playmaking". Teams double up on him just like they do with IT. In my observation, he's the most "shoot first" one on the team.
@TABDOG Yea, he does seem to be a Good Guy!! I'd like to see him finish strong this year. I had good feelings that he'd have a rebound year during this past summer. So far, I'm proud of him and how he's done. I still feel he's gonna get a little better before the years out.
1 year ago on Sacramento Kings acquire Roger Mason Jr. and cash from Miami Heat for conditional second rounder
@TABDOG Agree with you on the Malone comment. Jimmer's shooting numbers are decent considering his minutes. And did well when he got good time in the game the other night. Malone sees something we don't. I see good scoring and percentages. Defense isn't everything when you don't have high percentage scoring on the floor. For some reason, that doesn't seem to be of a value for Malone. I'm baffled by that. There are many in the league who can't do both and yet they play and are valued on other teams.
@TABDOG All I'm saying is, He not as bad as you make him out to be. To me, it seems a lot of folk give him a back hand afterthought. He has been very productive and beneficial coming off the bench. His numbers aren't great. But I do like what he does when he gets in the game. He rebounds, makes Big 3's when needed and with those arms of his, does a good job of defending. He plays with heart and hustle. And he contributes well in my opinion.
And I know you were tired. I was just doing the math for you as directed. Take Care! Didn't mean to seem like I was going off on you.
@TABDOG @Mad Dam Shooting %: Thornton at 38; Ben at 36; Ray at 36.
3P%: IT at 37; Gay at 34; Dwill at 25; Thorton at 32; Ben at 33; Ray at 29.
He beat these guys with the math as requested.
@sebass31 @snooch2danooch The Kings have never used Jimmer to any great extent. The argument that they won't use him because he's likely going to sign with another team is Crazy. What's Crazy is for Jimmer to stay with a team that has yet to give him a decent chance of developing into anything.
His percentages are very very good for the time he is given. Yes, maybe not the best defender but he hustles far more than most on the team. And his shooting is too good not to utilize. Say what you will about defense and I totally agree defense is big but hitting the buckets more frequently wins games just as much!! I just can't understand how this is not a value on a basketball team!!!
And his game against Brooklyn is a perfect example. He was given great minutes. He scored in the IT, Cuz and Gay range. And we won the damn game!!
@TABDOG Yea Outlaw was horrible scoring 18 points against the Warriors. Worthless.
Gay tried 3 times to go up with the ball. The first 2 times he's stop due to being hit across his right arm. What else would have stopped his upward momentum in this clip? The 3rd you can't see because his body is blocking the ball from this angle. Apparently that's the one that resulted into the jump ball which is wrong too. It just got smacked out of his hands.
1 year, 1 month ago on Road Reaction Postgame Show: Memphis Grizzlies 91, Sacramento Kings 90
James Ham, I don't know what you're not seeing. Gay was whacked across his right arm twice. Once by Lee, then Conley. End of Story, dude. Plus IT got the no call also.
Sure we should have played better at the end. But it doesn't excuse the Ref no calls on fouls.
Love his Spark off the Bench!! Love hearing of the off court chemistry.
1 year, 1 month ago on Quincy Acy spreading energy around Sacramento Kings bench
@kevshootit @Mad Dam Would Love It to happen. I sure his ceiling hasn't been reached yet. His quickness and strength ARE impressive. I'm with you. If he could get stronger, he would be a King for a long time.
1 year, 1 month ago on Derrick Williams struggles to find his way off the Sacramento Kings bench
@kevshootit Wouldn't hurt but he looks pretty beefy now.
I Love Derricks potential, energy and athleticism. Sad that he needs a willing passing point guard for his game to return as it was prior to Gay coming on-board.
1 year, 2 months ago on Derrick Williams struggles to find his way off the Sacramento Kings bench
@rdr2019 " . . . Bad Rudy, 23 points on 20 shots." Why do people have trouble with this stat? His field goal percentages are over 50%!!! I'd kill for anyone on the team to come anywhere near that besides Cousins and Thomas who are carrying the own.
I agree McLemore and Williams do round out the team just fine and are great additions with high potential!
"IT also has an uncertain future. " 3rd behind Curry and Paul. Geez, what do you want? He's gotten better every year and the Kings are far better when he's on the floor. Plus he's already proven he can play exceedingly well in the NBA. You want to take a chance on a rookie?
Not sure what you not seeing.
1 year, 2 months ago on Sunday Musings: Sacramento Kings begin assembling the right pieces
@KennethBrody @Mad Dam I'm stunned! Night and Day!!! How do you have such a game against the Mavs and not let a little of that carry over to the next game. True the Jazz couldn't miss just like the Kings couldn't miss against the Mav's. My excitement level just plummeted.
Glad to see Jimmer get more time. I'm really rooting for him to come out of his 3 pointer shooting shell. But he, like anyone else, is going to need some decent time on the floor to find his shot.
Thornton is just not finding his stroke anymore. I'm fairly ready for him to move on. But not if he's going to come out of it eventually.
1 year, 2 months ago on Rudy Gay won't make Sacramento Kings debut against Utah Jazz
I am OK with this. I really want to see the same group who did so well against Dallas. AND I really want to see that the other night was not just a fluke. That chemistry was outstanding!! I want to see it happen again!! Go Kings!!!!
Very Happy for Mr. Outlaw! Glad for the "clean slat" approach the coaching staff adopted. Both Cousins and Outlaw have taken full advantage. Go Kings.
1 year, 3 months ago on Travis Outlaw reclaiming NBA career in third season with Sacramento Kings
Fredette's already showed what he brings. This was another players night to shine.
We've got deep and varied talent at the SG. Most teams would love this luxury. Why are so many wanted Jimmer to leave.
This coaching staff understands what a coup they have. Many weapons, especially when the "best of best", have off nights, are a coaches luxury.
1 year, 4 months ago on Sacramento Kings prepared to hash out starting lineup today
Ya know, given all the Maloofisms, relocation woo's and coaching instability, who else would they put below us.
But our fans, through thick and thin, should have elevated us somewhat. King fans always showed Class, even for opposing teams and players when it's warranted. Considering Raider Nation and that scaring bunch not being family fare that much, you think we could have, at least, been raised above them.
But those things I mentioned above, were probably weighted too much.
No matter. Better days are coming.
1 year, 5 months ago on Poll: Are you offended by the Sacramento Kings' last place finish in ESPN's annual franchise rankings?
@asharma6 Agree. John has been known for being a very efficient defensemen. And when he is on, he is a driving force on offense. And with his work ethic, unless his age starts catching up with him, he should continue to be effective on the Kings.
Fold in the new coaching culture, I'm sure John will do well this year!
1 year, 5 months ago on Poll: Which veteran will step up for the Sacramento Kings?
@rdr2019 I, too, have good vibes for Outlaw. In fact, I believe, the only thing holding back these vets is the amount of time they get on the floor.
Hopefully training camp will turn the coaches heads as to their value and contribution.
YEeaaaaa for everyones return!! Especially Kayte. Loved her spark and enthusiasm. She was truly missed! Great decision by the new organization!
1 year, 5 months ago on Kayte Christensen rejoins the Sacramento Kings broadcast team
@Smittking That's Astonishing that he got that many more votes than all others. I like Jimmer and all. He's gotten such a bad deal under "not so smart" and deserves so much more support but this seems almost like it was rigged. Hope not. He is a class guy, though, and maybe it's that too.
1 year, 6 months ago on Poll: Who is your favorite Sacramento King?
@Kings fan No sure what you were watching and when but I saw every game. Jimmer going into the lane produced and show plenty of ability and talent. No So Smart, would put him in, in the 4th quarter in a losing game and he'd bring us back to a chance of winning. Then 'not so' would pull him and put in the starters and we'd lose so many times,. It was infuriating!!
1 year, 6 months ago on What to do about Jimmer Fredette?
@SSSDMC15 I, SO, Agree!! I sure hope the new coaching staff thinks this way too. At least, give it a season to find out before you start offering him on a plate to who ever we play in the future. His stats are great considering his time given to play.
And just so you know, he was also very good off the ball. Very active to get open. And when he drove to the basket, he had to touch to get the basket and the foul. Imagine with some good descent minutes, what he could do. Such a weapon "not so smart" didn't know how to use.
IT is the Man!
JH: I’ll just say that if I was starting a team, I would choose Jimmer over Thornton. He’s younger, cheaper and can really shoot. But the Kings need a starter for at least the first 40 games. Thornton is a better fit for that situation.
OK. Why? You say all good thing about him but trade him and Thornton is better, Why? Thornton is more of a one trick pony than Jimmer. Thornton is an "inconsistently hot" spot up shooter. So is Jimmer plus he can do it far deeper more consistently. Jimmer moves well. Gets in the paint with dishes and baskets. Excellent shooter all around. Why is Thornton a better fit? Thornton can get hot from long range. Not always. But no better than Jimmer. Again, everyone says his minutes are limited. Is that his fault? That's coaching, not a player stat if you ask me. And since when is Coach Smarts rotations lauded as superior to anything while he was here?
Give him better minutes, He will produce. He produced with limited minutes. I don't see where you guys come off with this logic. He's stats are great for the minutes he's been allowed. Lets see what he can do with more minutes plus this new coaching and culture the Kings now have.
Without reading the article, here's my answer; PLAY HIM!!! Let him be our Kick OUT Threat!! Spreads the floor. And since when don't we need the 3's.
What a Peter!
1 year, 6 months ago on Sunday Musings: Chris Hansen breaks bad
@Gary S Gilbert PhD @BMonstaC Yea, I was quite surprised when the Kings let him go along with Toney D. ( D for Defense Extraordinaire). Warriors were wise to pick him up.
But I guess they were thinking they could get bigger, badder and better.
I'd be glad to have Cole back. He looked like he had the goods.
1 year, 6 months ago on Cole Aldrich works out for Sacramento Kings
YES!!! I like this. I like Cole's game last year. I think he has a future and I hope he shows it with the Kings. Great Hustle and Motor on this man.
I stopped watching Basketball when Magic retired again for the last time. Jason Williams got me watching again. That kind of Basketball is Amazing!!
1 year, 6 months ago on WATCH: Former Sacramento Kings guard Jason Williams can still pass with the best of them
P Pat has the Stats!! Sorry but baskets win games. Defense keeps you in games but points get you W's.
Cowbb - Jimmer should stay put and be our "lights out" shooter. I'm betting Malone could use someone with his ability!
1 year, 6 months ago on Poll: Who should the Sacramento Kings start at small forward on opening night?
I'm Loving THIS!!!
1 year, 6 months ago on WATCH: Isaiah Thomas on changes to Sacramento Kings regime
@al asifyouknow @Mad Dam Alas without Ty.
1 year, 7 months ago on Everybody loves Greivis Vasquez
@al asifyouknow @Mad Dam I hear ya but it's not just the lack of team culture that was getting in the way. How many coaches in the last few years. Move or not gonna move for a couple of seasons. The one year that was condense with a very young rookie team. And still beat playoff teams.
Lost of instability in the franchise for a bunch of rookies to deal with. This year was gonna be different but alas with Ty.
@al asifyouknow @JoeAlonzo @Mad Dam Didn't know about his rookie playoff experience. Everything I hear about him is Grand. I'm sure he's gonna be a big plus for us.
Just not a fan of what we lost in the process. I had big dreams for Ty as a King.
@JoeAlonzo @Mad Dam Yea, I'm thankful for that. I Love his stats on assists. Thankfully he was there with that kind of need for the Kings. Just gonna miss having Ty on our team as he continues to improve and become one of our all-stars in the future. That dream has been shattered.
Love having him on the team. Just wince a lot when I realize who we gave up for him. I believe Ty will progress leaps and bounds in the coming years. So sorry to lose such a talented player.
Here's hoping I don't miss him this year. Fat chance but I'm hopeful.
Glowing Words from those who know him best.
1 year, 7 months ago on John Calipari and John Wall see hope ahead for DeMarcus Cousins
Yes, Please. Jimmer and GV on the floor could be a deadly combo!
I sure management doesn't have that luxury to wait for training camp to find out.
I figure between the 6 guards, there has to be some magic chemistry in there amongst them.
1 year, 7 months ago on Jimmer Fredette enthusiastic about future with Sacramento Kings
@tocan @Maddam19.1 points, 6.0 assists and 3.9 rebounds per game, but shot only 41.6 percent from the field and 28.7 percent from behind the arc.
At this rate, Ty is still better money spent.
1 year, 7 months ago on Poll: Is Monta Ellis the right fit for the Sacramento Kings?
I'd rather we spent that kind of money on Tyreke. Yea, over priced. So...
What's that make Ellis's asking price tag, then? Tyrkeke has more tools, more potential and still for less.