It's always midnight somewhere...
@Lambaaaaaa @JohnVillegas Also, you can choose whether to watch the home or away broadcast on non-national games, so it's like watching from OK.
3 days, 16 hours ago on Wednesday Bolts – 10.22.14
@Barry Amenema @sammasaaron @Tvaddic Now I really want to see Pop sucking on a ring pop, staring into the camera.
1 week, 4 days ago on Tuesday Bolts – 10.14.14
@Barry Amenema @Tvaddic OKC never gave me a ring pop! CHEEP!
Hey, at least Thabo isn't starting anymore!
@Lambaaaaaa @Loud City Jimmy To be fair, though, I don't think anyone really saw The Slim Reaper coming. Russ probably won't reach that rarefied air, but he could still raise his game above what anyone sees coming. Also time for one of those assets we've stockpiled to step up.
@ I’m out man. Y’all n***** trippin’ @SeinfeldOKC [Seinfeldtinder] Biggest thing is that foul rate. With the outlet he provides on dribble drives we need him on the court. Then FTs.
@SeinfeldOKC [Seinfeldtinder] Fewer games. The extra amount of time to watch a game isn't an issue for me. Consistently finding the time to watch several games a week is an issue.
@_justin @sammasaaron @KetelOne @FallenOSIRIS @SeinfeldOKC [Seinfeldtinder] @Perk has a lot of value Yeah, PER 36 would be...oh wait.
@KetelOne @FallenOSIRIS @SeinfeldOKC [Seinfeldtinder] @Perk has a lot of value Could we take them from the media timeouts instead?
@True Champ Jones III @sammasaaron So? Some people say that cucumbers taste better pickled.
1 week, 5 days ago on Monday Bolts – 10.13.14
@True Champ Jones III @sammasaaron Huh?
@King of Carrot Flowers the third It continues to be terribly done.
@King of Carrot Flowers the third Also, season 3 of The Walking Dead is a straight up rip-off of season 1 of Jericho. And, no, I don't care if it was in the graphic novel or not.
@True Champ Jones III Or remove you. Again.
@King of Carrot Flowers the third Has Carl died yet? I refuse to resume watching that show until I know that I get to see that little bastard zombified.
@Tvaddic Why is he leaving a k?
@King of Carrot Flowers the third Wait, where's Heustis?
@King of Carrot Flowers the third Fuck. Time to tank.
@duhsweetness @sammasaaron Yeah, it's all up to Jerrett now.
@Lambaaaaaa @True Champ Jones III @sammasaaron @King of Carrot Flowers the third Is that Adrian Peterson?
Guys, I just don't know how we're going to make it through the first month of the season without McGary.
@True Champ Jones III @King of Carrot Flowers the third Then perhaps that 'always' in the above statement is inaccurate?
T-minus 16 days until real Thunder basketball! And I finally have DT time again! Yay!
@mattchant @sammasaaron @Jabb0310 @harmlesslyfatal @qrex @SeinfeldOKC See, I just don't agree. I think Lamb and Robes will be better fits with the team in the long run, and I was uncomfortable with giving Martin more than 2 years. I don't begrudge him his last long contract, but I think it was too big a risk for a team I believe will be heading into luxury tax territory soon.
I know you don't agree, but I see a lot of these decisions through the lens of when to enter the tax and risk triggering repeaters. From that perspective, we're very well set up for the future.
Anyway, I've gotta bounce, fun discussion.
1 month, 3 weeks ago on Thursday Bolts – 9.4.14
@mattchant @sammasaaron @Jabb0310 Yeah, I'm just saying we haven't had a 'clean' year (as if such a thing really exists) to see how the offense operates without Harden/Martin.
@mattchant @sammasaaron @Jabb0310 I don't mind him there. I just don't put much stock in positionality. Imagine if we had Chalmers initiate from the top of the key into Russ off a pick. There's ways to get him on the ball without playing PG.
I just think we get to fixated on our SG issues and the fact that Harden is probably the best SG in the game for the next 5 years.
Edit: I picked Chalmers for the 3 shooting and affordability, not because I want that bastard on the team. Felt I needed that cleared up.
@mattchant @sammasaaron @Jabb0310 @harmlesslyfatal @qrex @SeinfeldOKC The reaction here was jubilation, but my reaction when I saw we were starting Butler was initially to turn off the TV. My fandom got the better of me. (Also, not playing Thabo and Perk together ought to be common sense, but Brooks)
To be clear, I don't think Butler should've played a minute in the playoffs and it would've been a shitty thing to do to Lamb, but dammit, I wanna win!
@mattchant @sammasaaron @Jabb0310 True, but there are a ton of middling PGs that we could get and slide Russ to the 2. My point is more that being a SG doesn't increase his value due to scarcity. It's about his overall rank, which is still top 10.
@mattchant @sammasaaron @Jabb0310 Right. And would've loved to keep him. But Minny gave him more years and dollars than he was worth (at least to us).
In any case, it will be interesting to see how we do this season as the last two both have huge caveats (Martin in 12-13, Russ injury in 13-14).
@Jabb0310 @sammasaaron @mattchant It was always civil. I don't think Matt or I take anything personally.
@mattchant @sammasaaron @Jabb0310 12-13, dude.
@Jabb0310 @mattchant @sammasaaron I don't think Lamb's a shooter. He's a cutter and catch-and-shoot off curls and I think we're not helping him by spotting him up.
@mattchant @Jabb0310 @sammasaaron I really think the SG scarcity is overplayed in a 'positionless' league.
@mattchant @sammasaaron @Jabb0310 You remember that WB missed half the season right? I'm sure that impacted efficiency(and I'm pretty sure we were near the top in 2012).
And yeah, we needed 3s and spacing. You don't pay a max guy for that and you don't give a 4 year deal to a defensively challenged 2.
@mattchant @sammasaaron @Jabb0310 @harmlesslyfatal @qrex @SeinfeldOKC I think Lamb would've done fine. Butler literally could not stay in front of any of the opposing guards. So Lamb's crappy D would've been better than Butler's, he would've taken fewer dumb 2s and we'd have had slightly less spacing for KD and Russ to iso at the end of games.
I think Thabo was a better option purely for his defense. Still kept Paul in check and spelled KD and Russ on the perimeter.
@mattchant @sammasaaron Ok, you said he had his best year since 2011. I'd like you to defend that.
@mattchant @sammasaaron @Jabb0310 I don't agree. And the correct player is Adams, who we wouldn't have without the Harden trade.
And everything else is the same speculation and counterfactuals the other side uses. Forgive me if I don't hold your speculation above mine. It's not impossible to believe we wouldn't be much, much better because we already have one of the most efficient offenses and diminishing returns don't reward redundancy.
Now if the argument is we should have shipped out Westbrook because he was worth more, well I still don't like it, but it's reasonable. But I don't see the value in keeping 3 high usage wings, none of whom are premier defenders (although hopefully that changes).
@mattchant @sammasaaron And this is my point. I've provided you with several numbers to describe why I think K-Mart fell off a cliff and is on the decline. You've responded by defending your initial position with no statistics. That's called faith.
@mattchant @sammasaaron @Jabb0310 Except that I agree with Presti on shipping out Harden. He's a tremendous player. He was redundant on our team and I feel pretty vindicated by the crappiness with which he's treated his teammates in HOU.
I like rooting for KD and Russ. After Harden bitching about shots in our lone Finals win, I liked rooting for him a lot less.
We'd be better (for now) if we had Harden. But anyone who says they know how much better is as full of crap as anyone saying we're better off without him.
@mattchant @Jabb0310 Clay sucks. Despite that, the team is one of the best in the league. And this is just my opinion, but I think Presti had as much to do with Harden leaving. Now, I can't defend that other than it being my opinion. But perhaps that will help you understand where I'm approaching this from.
@mattchant @sammasaaron @Jabb0310 @harmlesslyfatal @qrex @SeinfeldOKC Butler shot 32% in the playoffs. If opponents were respecting his shot, they're idiots.
Butler was god-awful. Worse than replacement level awful. I'm not arguing that any of our other options are a better choice than K-Mart. I am arguing that Butler was so terrible a replacement level player might have pushed us over the top.
@FallenOSIRIS @Daft_Drunk @Emergenzy Yeah, he's no Mario Williams.
@duhsweetness @Emergenzy That's true. What does it have to do with the Cowboys?
@Jabb0310 @mattchant Well said Jabb. I'm just ornery.
@qrex @Emergenzy As someone who rooted for the Saints pre-Brees, I say: LIES!
@Emergenzy Yeah, but he's also responsible for those State Farm commercials. And he's the reason you aren't dating Olivia Munn. Probably.
@mattchant @sammasaaron @qrex @Jabb0310 @harmlesslyfatal @SeinfeldOKC
TS %: .608 to .553
eFG %: .551 to .486
WS: 7.0 to 5.3
WS/48: .157 to .117 (also tied for his lowest since his rookie year)
Tell me again how the shooter who shot worse this past season had his best year since 2011.
@mattchant @sammasaaron @qrex @Jabb0310 @harmlesslyfatal @SeinfeldOKC Ah, gtfo, the sign of the philosopher king.
@mattchant @sammasaaron @qrex @Jabb0310 @harmlesslyfatal @SeinfeldOKC I'm pointing out that for someone who makes frequent recourse to advanced stats, I'm not seeing any.