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@Loric76 Has he BEEN to Buffalo?
16 hours, 29 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day
@TheGroobster @jimmyg65 @ShotgunCharlie @Jay_Berg Ah, so you don't read the papers or listen to the radio. But you KNOW that Ford is a great guy. That's called MAGICAL THINKING. Good luck with that.
1 day, 14 hours ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day
@LeafsGuru @jimmyg65 @TheGroobster @Jay_Berg Okay, I give up. I'm going back to the fact-based universe I live in. I'll leave the Ford Nation circle jerk for those who like that sort of thing.
1 day, 15 hours ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day
@dlb Mad @jimmyg65 The Star would find out that other councilors are wife-beating crack addicts involved with criminal gangs? Also, it was the Globe who ran the story on Doug's history as one of the biggest drug dealers in Etobicoke, and the sister's involvement in the White Power movement, and the other brother's involvement in criminal activities, including the confinement and torture of a guy who owed the Ford brothers money for a drug deal. The Post and Sun have also called for Ford to resign on several occasions.
And if you think that the other newspapers aren't as politically motivated in their news coverage then you know nothing about how the media works. The Star is the only major paper with a liberal bias. The others all have some form of conservative bias. That's how newspapers work. You don't like the Star because their bias is not your bias. Therefore the Sun and the Post and Globe all seem unbiased.
Again, that's how the media works. You listen to conservative talk radio, they say the Star is run by liberals, then you come on here and parrot their words.
THINK FOR YOURSELF. It's fun...
@TheGroobster @jimmyg65 @ShotgunCharlie @Jay_Berg Have you ever worked at a newspaper? Ever read one not name The Sun? Seriously, stop getting your talking points from CFRB or AM 640 and learn to think for yourself. Or don't vote.
@ShotgunCharlie @jimmyg65 @TheGroobster @Jay_Berg News, like they have for the last 120 years.
@Yan28 @LeafsGuru @jimmyg65 @TheGroobster @Jay_Berg Not "thoughts," those are "feelings." If you had thoughts, you would look at the facts and see the damage this drunken idiot frat boy has done to the city. You would listen to business leaders who say that he has damaged the city's reputation as a place to do business.
Why am I arguing? Ford could shoot someone in the city chambers and you'd all still vote for him, and you'd be proud of it because you think you're "sticking it to City Hall."
@LeafsGuru @jimmyg65 @TheGroobster @Jay_Berg Worst attendance record of any Mayor in history. Drunk on the job. Sexually harassing female counselors. Physically threatening other councilors. Making himself a blackmail target for a criminal gang. Lying about saving the city $1 billion when it's proven that he hasn't. Turning a city that's dependent on tourism and overseas investment an international laughing stock. Alienating the gay community, whose Pride Day celebrations bring in $1 billion a year to the city. Never being at work past 4 pm. Using his office to solicit private funds for his charity.
You don't think any of this has to do with his job performance. WHAT UNIVERSE DO YOU LIVE IN?
@TheGroobster @Jay_Berg Rob Ford BS? That he's a drug addict? He is. That he's a compulsive liar? Check. That he has the worst work attendance record of any Toronto mayor in history? Yup. That he's been caught in several conflict-of-interest violations? Yup. That the cops have frequently gone out to his house for domestic abuse calls? They have. That he was caught on tape making fun of blacks and gays? He was. That his right-hand man was extorting a dangerous gang to get back the crack video that Ford denied existed? That's about to go to trial this fall. Then there's the tape of him offering the extortionist, and another "buddy" whose been charged with stalking women and beating up his own mother, a chance to have a threeway with his wife. Yes. And the DUI charge in Florida that Ford also denied? Yup.
But it's all BS, eh? You think it's okay for an executive and the mayor of the most economically important city in Canada to show up wasted for his job and then leave early to meet his drug dealer buddy and piss in a schoolyard? Poor Rob Ford, the rich kid from Etobicoke whose dad bought him a council seat when he couldn't cut it in the family business. FORD NATION ROCKS!!!!
@Bring the Cup Home Or not. Kessel has also been called one of the strongest, most talented players they've ever seen by people like JVR, Kane and coach Carlyle. His teammates regularly joke about him being an obsessively competitive player, whether it's ping pong, gulf, hockey, video games, who hates to lose. He worked out most of the summer, like every other player in the NHL, but because he didn't "think about hockey" enough (though Spott referred to him as having a fine "hockey mind") he's costing himself 10 goals and 20 points a season.
You can't make this shit up...
2 days, 7 hours ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day
@sniperstar @jimmyg65 @Burtonboy Yes, but we're INTELLIGENT Leafs fans, the tiny minority.
2 days, 8 hours ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day
@sniperstar @jimmyg65 @Burtonboy No, it doesn't actually. Kessel says, at the end of a direct quote in the fourth paragraph, that he only takes a month off, then spends the rest of the summer actually training. The writer of the article then writes, "Kessel said he’ll use training camp and the pre-season as a means to get into hockey shape." That's not what Kessel said. He said he uses camp and pre-season to get used to playing and skating again. The writer, by rephrasing Kessel's very clear statement about his off-season training regiment, is implying that Kessel just loafed around all summer and needs the pre-season to get into shape.
I worked for six years as a magazine editor. The writer wants you to think that Kessel doesn't work out in the summer--look at the headline!--but he's covered his ass by putting in that one direct quotation from Kessel. It's underhanded, smarmy bullshit, and every MSM outlet will be picking up on it tomorrow morning.
2 days, 9 hours ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day
@drummond @RandomScrub First time I read that I thought you wrote "Spott's new breakfast system." Thought you had some inside info on a new Leafs team toaster.
@ingy56 @jimmyg65 Thanks. He's due in a month. He'll be a fourth-generation Leafs fan. The insanity is passed down from father to son....
@ingy56 @jimmyg65 I'll be the guy in the Kessel jersey with a newborn boy strapped to my chest.
@ingy56 I'm very excited about the season. The Leafs are very slowly moving in the right direction in my opinion. Going to be great to see Reilly and Gardiner mature, and hopefully see a couple of the young forwards (Leivo, Holland, Ashton) start to challenge for line-ups spots. I'm going to take in a couple of Marlies games. Want to see guys like Brown and hopefully Neilander play.
@Reimocerous The only reason I care about what the MSM says is that people, some even on this site, buy into their crap so much that it begins to dominate all conversations about the Leafs. People start trashing a player like Kessel, not because of his game, but because of made-up nonsense about his attitude or conditioning. It's just so stupid and such a waste of time.
@Burtonboy This is a classic Toronto media smear story. Kessel actually said in that scrum that he only took one month off and spent the rest of the off-season training. He just didn't do much skating, mainly because he trains in Florida, where there ain't a lot of ice.
So now that Sportsnet has established a "fact" about Kessel's lack of off-season training, they and TSN can "open up the phone lines" tomorrow to hear what fans think about this fact. It will also be the lead-in topic on Leafs Lunch (O Dog will no doubt talk about how little training he used to do) and by six o'clock tomorrow Kessel will be officially declared lazy (as well as a bad guy in the locker room).
Honestly, if I was a hockey player, I would not play in this market.
2 days, 10 hours ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day
@LN-093 @jimmyg65 @Xxxxxnew I'd want more back for Kessel than Johansen, but that would be a good place to start. Not that I want to trade Kessel....
@Mcost61 Leivo's a big guy. I saw him play a couple of years ago at the Subway series "OHL vs Russia" game in Guelph. He was smashing those Russkies and looked dangerous with the puck almost every time he touched it. I'm hoping he gets at least 20 games on the big team this year.
@LN-093 @jimmyg65 @Xxxxxnew I'd like to see him get an extended look with Kadri, let them define roles for themselves and for whoever the third line mate was.
@LN-093 @jimmyg65 @Xxxxxnew I'm a big Kessel fan, but I am beginning to wonder why there seems to be a reluctance to pair him up with Kadri--or anyone but Bozak.
And yeah, I remember the Corson clique. That was nasty...
@LN-093 @jimmyg65 @Xxxxxnew I'm glad we agree about Subban.
I'm not talking about whether or not there are holes in Kessel's game--I agree with you on that, although I have seen him back check plenty of times (though not enough times). My main point is that no matter what he or any other Leaf does, they are going to be shredded in the media here because it makes people money to do so. I've got nothing against an intelligent argument about Kessel the player, but what's happening in the media has nothing to with that.
@LN-093 @Xxxxxnew I don't know, was there a story? Who cares, let's just say there was and go from there. Do a phone-in show about it. So much easier than sticking to the facts and analyzing the game.
PK Subban has been in at least three fist fights (actually documented in the Montreal media) with teammates at practices and was publicly trash-talked by those same teammates during his contract hold-out. These are facts. They are on film. It is also a fact that he wasn't considered good enough to play in the top 6 D on the Canadian Olympic team this year. And yet on TSN and Sportsnet and in the papers he is regularly referred to as "one of the best D-men in the NHL" and a great guy who could be the Captain one day. If he played in Toronto the media here would calling him an overrated one-dimensional D man whose a cancer in the dressing room, and that his contract us "the worst in the NHL."
No matter what a hockey player does in Toronto, the media here will try to cut him down or insinuate something about his game or his attitude. Why? Because it generates clicks and television views. It really is that simple. That is what these guys are told to do to bring up the ratings. What's sad is that some people on MLHS, who I've always considered the most intelligent Leafs fans in the world, are naive enough to buy into that crap.
@sniperstar "That is as unselfish a move as you will see..." Damn straight. Like I said earlier in a post, nobody is happier when his teammates score than Phil.
Thanks for posting this.
2 days, 11 hours ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day
@DylanJ As someone who's worked in the media on and off for 15 years, I would call this Spott/Kessel controversy a case of absolute horseshit perpetrated by lazy journalists because it's easier than doing the real work of analysis and intelligent hockey talk. Opinion and scandal have replaced insight and analysis on the radio, TV and, for the most part, in print. It's cheaper and easier (and gets you more clicks) to milk an innuendo-laden trend story. You can keep rattling on about it because there's no answers because there's no actual question or facts.
That's why I'll always prefer hanging out here, where the writers (and posters) work very hard to present an informed, passionate analysis of what happens ON THE ICE. Even when I disagree with (and am disagreed with) what's written, I know that I'm getting an informed opinion, not an attempt to score clicks by lazy journos like Simmons and Feschuk (who is the absolute smarmiest little prick out there).
@B_Leaf @jimmyg65 @MaxwellHowe No, I've never watched a hockey game. Never played, never read any books about it. You obviously have, so I bow to your expertise. If you don't understand how important Sundin was to the Leafs, how supremely skilled he was, then I'm not going to argue with you, especially when you're only retort is to take a personal shot at me. YOU WIN.
2 days, 17 hours ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day
@B_Leaf @MaxwellHowe @jimmyg65 WOW. Just wow. Playoff success was because of Gary Roberts and McCabe? I'm bowing out of this one. Thanks for proving my point about people hating Sundin, though. The guy just put up a point a game his entire career playing with shitty wingers, scored a ton of game-winning goals, led the team to the conference finals twice, but we're talking about Gary Roberts and Bryan McCabe. Unbelievable.
@B_Leaf @jimmyg65 I agree about Gilmour, but by the same logic that makes people question Kessel's attitude because he was traded by the team that drafted him, we should also be questioning Gilmour for being traded by THREE teams over his career. I mean, let's be consistent here...
@MaxwellHowe @jimmyg65 I said since the 70s, and Gilmour and Clark were loved for his tenacity and toughness, not his skill (of which he had much). And yes, Sundin was practically run out of town by Leafs fans and DJs. He was constantly criticized, for not being tough enough, for "playing like a European," etc. Don Cherry never had a good thing to say about Sundin but he LOVED Tucker and Corson.
Another morning of Kessel bashing in the media, and by some folks on here. I've never understood why this market hates skilled players. It's been that way since the 70s. Mats Sundin, a first-ballot hall-of-famer was shit on by the same people his entire career in Toronto, even when he carried the team on his back deep into the playoffs. He was never tough enough, didn't back check, didn't play like Wendel. Now it's Kessel's turn. Depressing....
@MaxwellHowe @Knights2Leafs @theacs1966 And only people who believe smear articles by professional trolls like Feschuk buy into this argument that Phil isn't a team player. There is absolutely no proof of that. His teammates obviously love him, and the only time he smiles on the ice or gets excited is when a teammate scores. Kessel has consistently gotten about the same number of assists as goals throughout his career. THERE IS NO PROOF WHATSOEVER that he's not a team player. This is the typical insinuation garbage that has replaced actual analysis and facts in the Toronto and national media. I just ignore it, but it depresses me when people on this site buy into it.
@leafmealone @jimmyg65 @Tim Horton @mtommy I agree. You'd need a better D prospect than Percy. Maybe Finn + a 2nd. It's getting harder to predict what guys will get back in a trade, though.
4 days, 1 hour ago on Rookie Tournament Game #3: Maple Leafs vs. Penguins
@Tim Horton @mtommy And Kadri with very little PP time, playing on second line with a revolving cast of players. Johansen is the better player, but as Davidson said, he's not Toews or Stamkos. Kadri plus a good defensive prospect would not be a bad deal for Columbus, considering the ridiculous money Johansen is asking for coming off an ELC.
@CanuckUKinToronto He's supposed to have great possession numbers, according to Kyle Dubas, who was his GM in Soo.
1 week ago on Rookie Tournament Game #1: Maple Leafs vs. Blackhawks
@Doorman A good steak (request from my wife, who is pregnant and can't get enough iron), with fried onions and tomatoes and boiled potatoes.
1 week ago on Maple Leafs invite Henrik Tallinder and Brendan Mikkelson to training camp
@Bon Scott was a Leaf fan @Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs @Jmessih One of the first non-K-tel albums my brother and I pooled our allowance to by. The others were Not Fragile by BTO, the two Beatles greatest hits (red and blue) albums, London Calling and Hotel California. All from the old Record Barn next to Yorkdale.
@Burtonboy @Leafs_17 He is such a gutless weasel. Talks big on Twitter, wouldn't dare say that to Kessel's face.
1 week, 1 day ago on Maple Leafs invite Henrik Tallinder and Brendan Mikkelson to training camp
I lasted three minutes listening to TSN's Leafs Lunch. Jeff O'Neill has nothing interesting to say about anything. He was going on about how Leafs fans never get out to Marlies games, which, being a Leafs fan who's been to lots of Marlies games I can tell you isn't true. He just makes crap up.
1 week, 2 days ago on Spencer Abbott signs one-year deal
@Mind Bomb @jimmyg65 @MaxwellHowe @ Keon I've been a fan long enough not to get my hopes up too much...
@Mind Bomb @jimmyg65 @MaxwellHowe @ Keon Whenever some bozo tries to tell me that nothing has changed with the Leafs in decades I point to the number of good young players that have been drafted and developed in the last six years, with more to come. That is a big change from the period between 1975-2008. No comparison. I honestly didn't pay attention to the draft or the farm system before 2008 because there was no point--most of the guys weren't very good, and if they were, you knew they'd probably get traded.
@MaxwellHowe @ Keon Hey, I think they both have top 4 potential. Something to remember about Finn: he lost a year of junior because of mono, then bounced back the next year to captain Guelph to the WHL finals in a year where he put up 61 points. He lost over 15 pounds when he was sick and put it all back on plus about another 10. He's definitely got more upside than Percy, I think, but I'm happy to have them both.
@Bon Scott was a Leaf fan @Murph2417 I recently spent $450 bucks to save our cat's teeth (her gums had gotten infected). Didn't think twice about the money. Good luck with B...
1 week, 3 days ago on Spencer Abbott signs one-year deal
@Burtonboy I saw him play at the ACC a couple of times last year. His potential is pretty off the charts, and I don't say that about many young Leafs--ANY young Leafs except for him. He's a special player and sounds like he's got a good head on his shoulders.
Looking forward to seeing what Nylander can do, though he's probably best off in the AHL this year.
@Mcost61 @jimmyg65 @mcloki @Burtonboy @ingy56 Yes, that would probably be a first...
@mcloki @Mcost61 @Burtonboy @ingy56 Or grab this because beating up a woman is disgusting...
@Burtonboy Man, I missed Komarov....
1 week, 5 days ago on Sunday Mashup: ‘Legends Row’ a great gesture, ‘Fan Fest’ goes septic
@ingy56 O'Dog is the dumbest man on the radio. I'd take Howie Burglar or even Glenn Healy over him any day. He's always cutting people off to make the same three dumb points.
@mcloki @MaxwellHowe Damn straight. My grandfather was a Leafs (St Pats) fan, as was my dad, uncles, brother, cousins, etc., and so will my son, who is due in about seven weeks. My uncle John, now 82, keeps the urn containing the ashes of my aunt Claire on top of the TV so he can complain to her during Leafs games.
Which is to say: over my dead body would I vote for a second TO team.
@Mcost61 I hope they ban him for life. What kind of scumbag treats a woman like that?