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@Dogger 

Possibly but we still have a 3rd liner as our center. Kadri being taught by no one his trade, his guy to look up to is Bozzie. Lupul is up and down and probably feels hes just a stop gap in a team of bums. We havent got a 2nd RW. We have no new young prospect in the line up, Kadri is already 3rd or 4th year. Wheres the new guys at forward. We picked Rielly when we had Gardiner and then play both, together, obviously due to age going to make massive mistakes. And then we spend a first rounder on Nylander who might turn out to be ok, MIGHT? but by the time he does, we would have realised that Kadris development has stalled, Lupul has given up and Kessel asked for a trade to a team capable of making the playoffs.

Sure drafting is usefull but it shouldnt be an exclusive tool to get success. Sure Kopitar was drafted, Getzlaf and its the only way to get top centers in (so we keep hearing) but they are big power forwards something Nylander will never be. But LA would be nothing had they not added Carter and Richards who provides depth, insight, and a push that keeps youngsters like Toffoli on their toes.

The best guy we have is Kessel, got through trade not draft.


As for we have some good youngsters in the set up and exciting players, thats what we said about Holzer, Blacker and endless others we simply waste because the 1st team set up is so bad we never have the luxury to play them. What coach in his right mind when losing time and time again drops the established stars and plays rookies. Sometimes it might work and the coach is called a genius but when it fails he never works again.

1 day, 6 hours ago on Thursday Mashup: Bruins Saturday

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@LN-093 @dlb Mad 

Wasnt deep throat the guy that nailed Nixon? Unlike Monica Lewinsky who was just a fag hag.


(fag in english is cigarette/cigar)

1 day, 6 hours ago on Thursday Mashup: Bruins Saturday

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@Dogger 

Good. Im pissed off with all the love for the draft. It rarely garners anything for us anyway. Especially as a GM picks a player the incumbent coach thinks would be a good idea, sacks the coach, changes direction, youngster doesnt fit the new set up, GM gets fired, new GM in, he trades youth to get the odd player or changes the youth. Doesnt work after 15 minutes, coach gets sacked, new coach in, fans and coach hark back to the good old days when player they once had is a success for another team and would fit right into our style of play.

1 day, 6 hours ago on Thursday Mashup: Bruins Saturday

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@MaxwellHowe @Burtonboy @LN-093 

So did Quinn and then we split things up and watched play off hockey go down the pan after the successful (sarcasm) appointment of JFJ

1 day, 7 hours ago on Thursday Mashup: Bruins Saturday

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@LN-093 @MaxwellHowe 

I prefer the idea of GM and coach dual roles. Why should a guy pick a team and another have to coach shit he doesnt want. You should have specialist coaches, that we have, Presidents and honorary this and that and statisticians and the what not. Im surprised there is enough work to do at GM and coach level. Its not as if Nonis does anything anyway. Over pay a free agent, pick up a reserve goal tender and sign another 3rd liner to a one year deal, put it all together and watch it fail. Shite anyone could do that.

1 day, 7 hours ago on Thursday Mashup: Bruins Saturday

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@LN-093 @Black_Hawk @Burtonboy 

Totally disagree. Get back on your horse and dont let any third world religious reprobate stop your daily routine.

1 day, 7 hours ago on Thursday Mashup: Bruins Saturday

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My heart goes out to you guys and hope everyone stays safe and no more incidences take place. Stay strong and lets not let these backward bastards change our way of life. Go on as normal but remember the true heroes of this world. Not the made up drug taking ideology of the bog standard nobodies from the third world. Remember our boys fought against such regimes and won their place in history, we will win again.

2 days, 7 hours ago on Game Review: Game #7, Toronto Maple Leafs 5 vs. New York Islanders 2

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@Mcost61 @theacs1966 

FFS hes not 20

4 days, 4 hours ago on Monday Mashup: Taking on the toughs

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@dlb Mad @Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs 

From day one we expected Schenn because he was drafted high to be the savior of our 200 goals against a season. A boy filling a mans boots. He will develop into a half decent stay at home guy, hes still young but by no means is he a 7th overall pick, I said at the time and I hated Burkes idiocy of drafting D-men all the time for a team that needs help now. But whats done is done.

4 days, 10 hours ago on Leafs Notebook – October 20

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@Cloud09 @TheLoovTrain 

But I can understand why its played. What is Phil, what is Franson. They are neither rock solid game reading stay at home guys nor are they quarterbacks. They are somewhere between the two, Jack of all trades - master of none. I like that type of player if you want a defensive aware two man D on the power play, I get that. I also get that type of player if you want to pair them up with a real tough as nails stay at home guy but feel the old one stay back and one rush forward is too risky.

But 5 v 5 its always seems to be the case of shall I go, no no after you or hang on I thought I was going shit - oh for fuck sake and the announcer announcing an away goal.

4 days, 10 hours ago on Leafs Notebook – October 20

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@dlb Mad Hes a young guy and d-men take many more years to develop than a forward. Most teams put a young puck mover on the 3rd line and give ample 5-4 play where the defense side of things happens rarely and if it does with little pressure, a kind of bedding in - see NJ and Gelinas.

I dont expect to get finished article rich pickings from Rielly for another 5 years and Gardiner and Franson another 2 years. My issue with the d has always been we have too many youngsters to veteran ratio and expect too much too soon.

4 days, 10 hours ago on Leafs Notebook – October 20

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@vinoa @dlb Mad @Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs 

yeah but they didnt. If we had have picked Ryan ORielly in the 2009 draft a whole round earlier then we would have a center a little bit more consistent and more of an edge to him. But we didnt.

Make a list of Detroits draftees that have made teams and then list ours, you will be surprised.

5 days, 7 hours ago on Game Review: Game #6, Red Wings 1 vs. Maple Leafs 0 (OT)

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@Yaknowwhat 

True Yak bt we dont have enough elite players in the team so marking one out of the game is hardly a hardship for even the tamest of defences. 

Kessel is a real elite skater and world class shot and is maturing to be a decent allrounder BUT still defensively rather suttle in his approach. Now ALL teams can cope with a guy who doesnt do all that dfensively, Semin, Gaborik, Ovi (even though thats changing) RNH (ok Edmonton arent coping at all lol) but when the next elite skater on any given night is on the opposing team sheet then youre going to have trouble. Our No1 center is a 3rd liner. Kadri is a frustrating inconsistant jerk who promises much but delivers 75% every other night and 50% the others. Non game changing and very few even worthy of a scoring line. Lupul is a guy who should be as a vet on the 2nd or 3rd lines but thats it and his value is in trade rather than keeping him. JVR is something to get excited about but is still young and still prone to mistakes. Our 2nd line winger kozun/frattin/winnik is laughable and only the Leafs would think of this. This team is non competitive. They win a percentage of games just by what you would expect by turning up. Its sad.

Columbus is heads and shoulders over us. NYI have over taken us. the Devils possibly too and Carolina is garbage bvut still holds a more consistent higher level than us. Buffalo Edmonton and Florida are the only teams I consider as worse than us.

5 days, 7 hours ago on Game Review: Game #6, Red Wings 1 vs. Maple Leafs 0 (OT)

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@dlb Mad 

I think the difference between Detroit and the Leafs in that regard is Detroit can match any of our scouting for the 1st round in their fourth round. Historically we have drafted garbage and at best massively frustrating individuals that you know, hand on heart, wouldnt even feature in one of the top 5 teams.

5 days, 7 hours ago on Game Review: Game #6, Red Wings 1 vs. Maple Leafs 0 (OT)

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Ive heard on here for years that a goal tender means everything to an organisation and we have really gone through our fair share of shit. So Im presuming everyone on here now is saying Gustavsson is a monster?

Ive been saying for ages its the organisation and if you put Rask in this set up he would struggle to post under 3.00 GAA and a save percentage much less than he has now as the shot would be right on his doorstep at favourable angles for the forward unlike at Boston where they do their job.


Can we now tell NONIS to fuck off.

5 days, 7 hours ago on Game Review: Game #6, Red Wings 1 vs. Maple Leafs 0 (OT)

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@Savo43 

f-ing wind up merchant . lol


6 days ago on Game Day: Game #6, Maple Leafs at Red Wings (7 p.m., CBC)

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@Mcost61 @Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs 

Hes trying not to be a dick and concede a penalty

6 days, 1 hour ago on Game Day: Game #6, Maple Leafs at Red Wings (7 p.m., CBC)

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what a load of f-king horse shit Dion gets a penalty for being thrown to the ground

6 days, 1 hour ago on Game Day: Game #6, Maple Leafs at Red Wings (7 p.m., CBC)

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@T K O 

On back to back nights why is their consensus for a goalie change, which I feel is fair but why isnt their line changes. Like a 1A and 1B 1st line for such days. For example if the Kessel line plays max minutes and Phannys line plays max minutes at home then why cant we give Robidas Gardiner and Lupuls line the max minutes the following night.

There just isnt good man management in back to backs and the Leafs always get their fare share of them. Other teams do this but I guess we have 2/3rds of a 1st line (Kessel line) and 1/3 of a second line or better still 2 halfs of a 1/3rd (Lupul line). And this is the fault of the GM, he is crap and asking Carlyle to match the ambition of the fan base with traffic cones dressed in blue is a thankless task. We are still 5 years + away from being a division contender. Carry on at the same pace of developing players and trading for players then we will never reach the conference final.

6 days, 4 hours ago on Saturday Mashup: Round Two, Hopefully Better than Round One

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great start to the period for the Marlies - jesus H christ

6 days, 4 hours ago on Saturday Mashup: Round Two, Hopefully Better than Round One

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@T K O @Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs 

I thought he didnt but then again eyes teared over so if Carlyle came on chasing toast I wouldnt have noticed lol


6 days, 7 hours ago on Saturday Mashup: Round Two, Hopefully Better than Round One

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@T K O @Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs 

left the game in the 3rd after taking a puck

6 days, 7 hours ago on Saturday Mashup: Round Two, Hopefully Better than Round One

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Does anyone know the practice lines. IS Winnik out, Kozun is Im pretty sure about. Who makes up the top 6?

6 days, 7 hours ago on Saturday Mashup: Round Two, Hopefully Better than Round One

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@Ze_theLeafsFan 

Ze, what does the Ze stand for, its not a rip off of my name is it. I dont meet many people with names starting with Ze, me being the only Zeus I know EXCEPT for a powerful bleach and an old rottweiler dog our neighbour used to have, that could if you left a toilet roll on the ground, be able to lift it up with his red rocket.

1 week ago on Friday Mashup: Wings back to back on deck

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@FRyan 

Did he work out that the girl was probably wheel chair bound by her poor acceleration, inability to climb stairs without burning up to three times as many calories as Phanny does in a match or was it that her turn overs were more prevalent on banked bends or did the geek just open his eyes.

1 week ago on Friday Mashup: Wings back to back on deck

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@TheLoovTrain @Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs @Cameron19 @traNsplantEdneWfie @dlb Mad 

Havent watched too much with those guys so will reserve judgement. The swedish league doesnt play as many games as the NHL so I cant watch as bigger array of teams as I can from the nhl. I also have teh wrong TV packet. Im with Viasat so I get every NHL match, the SHL and KHL are on Canal Digital. I do occasionally get to watch the odd match but usually only the top teams or if they play in Europe. Personally Im a HV71 fan so keep a keen interest in Frölunda and Farjestad as they have been our rivals for years.

1 week, 1 day ago on Wednesday Mashup: Back to .500

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@Cameron19 @Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs @traNsplantEdneWfie @dlb Mad 

I know Cam but a handy player nontheless in his prime, Im thinking his days in Philly not the Riemer whacking frog blowing days

1 week, 1 day ago on Wednesday Mashup: Back to .500

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@TheLoovTrain @Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs @Cameron19 @traNsplantEdneWfie @dlb Mad 

our 7th, hopping for a Zetterberg?

He´s young, he mixes it with the big boys but Im not so sure about small guys? He remonds me a bit of a young Gionta (sorry for swearing) but 3 and 3 in 10 for Frolunda isnt so bad

1 week, 1 day ago on Wednesday Mashup: Back to .500

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@Cameron19 @Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs @traNsplantEdneWfie @dlb Mad 

Cam thats why I would do what we should have done in the beginning and brought in E.Staal. A 1st round pick next year + should get the job done especially as we are too stupid to lose and get McDavid. even if we dumped Kessel and Phanny wed still be drafting around 6th -12th. Carolina will see it as a possible chance to combine our pick with theirs should they miss the top two draft possitions and trade up.

I think

Kessel Staal JVR

Yakupov Kadri Lupul

Clarkson Bozak Komarov 


as a much brighter set up than we have now.

1 week, 1 day ago on Wednesday Mashup: Back to .500

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@dlb Mad @traNsplantEdneWfie 

Did I just read that you think Yak wouldnt upgrade the second line and that Winnik is doing a good job.

I need a drink now.

1 week, 1 day ago on Wednesday Mashup: Back to .500

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@Cameron19 @Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs 

Cam the Russian coach didnt say that with that meaning. He said he didnt want Yakupov on the Olympic team as he was struggling in Edmonton. He was trying to give the boy a sharp kick up the arse to get his game in order. Who would he have replaced anyway Malkin? Ovi? Semin.? Kovi? Tarashenko?  even Kuznetsov didnt make it and he was youth team captain. Fact is Russia is stacked and didnt need to rush a player and the north american anti russian sentiment pushed the press and made stupid articles miss translating a lot.

Yakupov is class

Why is it expected that Gagner, RNH, Eberle are allowed to be all soft and lazy in their defensive responsibilities but a much younger guy who should be shielded on a scoring line have to mix it up with adults. Look at teh Seguin situation. Same thing there. Treat the player like garbage, make him earn his stripes if it doesnt work make a fuss and scream blue murder and how the boy is crap. Is he? Is he really? I bet Boston with their cap issues had have kept a 40 goal scorer instead of that lame duck Eriksson.

1 week, 1 day ago on Wednesday Mashup: Back to .500

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@Cameron19 @traNsplantEdneWfie @dlb Mad 

I would, why wouldnt you Cam.?

There is nothing wrong with him, its just the coach there is a prat and way out of his depth. Eberle and RNH injured and still Yak doesnt get a chance despite working harder and being at the time 1G and 1A in 3 matches. All for a team that sucks. He stayed on the 2nd and didnt even recieve an extra minute of playing time. 

There is some serious waste of talent going on in Edmonton and the main reason why I think the draft is unfair and stupidly communist.

1 week, 1 day ago on Wednesday Mashup: Back to .500

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@LeafsGuru 

yeah he just sliced Riems with his stick. 

1 week, 4 days ago on Game Day: Game #3, Toronto Maple Leafs vs. New York Rangers (7 p.m., City TV)

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@Luke_R 

Dont get it. How would getting Hertl from San Jose get us an Eichel or McDavid. You forget one major factor in this calculation of yours. The Maple Leafs are too thick to lose enough games.

1 week, 5 days ago on Game Day: Game #3, Toronto Maple Leafs vs. New York Rangers (7 p.m., City TV)

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@Mitch92 @BaunBomb 

Our GM should come out and say just that.

Toronto is where stars come to shine but none have the bollox to make it their home.

1 week, 5 days ago on Game Day: Game #3, Toronto Maple Leafs vs. New York Rangers (7 p.m., City TV)

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@Cameron19 @Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs 

You can through trade cam and if you get in 2 or 4 guys through trade in that the hockey world see as top prospects and real excitement then the free agents will want to be part of it.

This is the domain of the GM and our GM and his advisers have been proved to be totally inept.

1 week, 5 days ago on Game Review: Game #2, Pittsburgh Penguins 5 vs. Toronto Maple Leafs 2

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@Leafs_17 @Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs @Cameron19 

Ive noticed our GMs arent prepared to pay but rather pay what they think is fair. And Ive learned in my 39 years of life that nothing is fair. lol. 

We had a chance with Stastny, Richards and countless others but werent prepared to pay. And as for trades nonexistent. What did Hartnell cost Columbus, Umberger and a 4th and Nonis couldnt match that. Instead we see Clarkson on the same money for longer. And what would the Leafs draft with a 4th, name our last 4th round draft pick that made the team? If we cant get many 1st rounders right what makes us think any other draft pick we pick is worth anything at all.

Stars will come but it takes 2 or 3 big names to attract no 4 and no 5 to see something is being built. Why would a free agent come, he probably wont we need to trade for a few names first THEN free agents will want to come to the biggest party in town.

1 week, 5 days ago on Game Review: Game #2, Pittsburgh Penguins 5 vs. Toronto Maple Leafs 2

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@Cameron19 

Not heated Cam just passionate. I respect you way too much to think youre a run of the mill hockey fan with blue tinted glasses. Just having fun my friend, sometimes some things arent said on here forcefully enough and I like to keep ideas and passions at max rather than become a dull "given up" humm as background noise of discontent.


1 week, 5 days ago on Game Review: Game #2, Pittsburgh Penguins 5 vs. Toronto Maple Leafs 2

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@Cameron19

Bollox with all respect.

If Columbus, LA, NJ (now) and endless other teams can do it then so can we.

What happens in your world if Kadri doesnt develop past what he is now.He will still argue for 5 or 6 million when his contract is up due to his "stats" and his age up to now. 1 million more and that is Stastny. Hes still young and plenty of time to fix things.

Nylander what happens if he doesnt make it, what would you have got with the first. Stastny?? So you could have kept Kadri AND had Stastny. But instead you have risk and 2 or 3 years of shit play. Taking 3 years out of the careers of Kessel, Lupul, JVR, Phaneuf, Gardiner, Bernier waiting for one or two guys. Let alone the plethora of 1 or 2 year contracts deemed to be our saviors. (Polak, Robidas, Komarov, Santerelli, Panik, etc etc etc).

If Columbus lose a game the fans of hockey say well a field were a battle raged some 150 years ago is no true hockey market anyway and they let it slide. A youngster here doesnt feel the same pressure as playing for the Leafs. A team who just lost to Crosby, Fleury, Malkin, Kunitz, Letang, Ehrhoff and good second tier guys is hounded and bitched about despite the fact all they have is Kessel, JVR, Phanny who is on his 2nd game back on a different side, a sophomore Rielly and effectively a sophomore great hope in goal. WHY because the LEafs is a play now, win now, hockey city with wordly expectations. This is not a place for the new, for fads or wannabees. This is a place for stars and it is possible for stars to be here, play here and be afforded here. We have the same cap as LA, Chicago Pittsburgh etc its just we pay over the odds for shite. And thats the fault of the GM not the concept of wage cap hockey.

1 week, 5 days ago on Game Review: Game #2, Pittsburgh Penguins 5 vs. Toronto Maple Leafs 2

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@Cameron19 @Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs @Jmessih 

Cam 

The term nerd isnt a derogatory in the term of not knowing his job, its slightly derogatory in terms thats all he can do. I dont doubt he is an up and coming guy, who like anyone with the right coaching, could make the top, WE as a top franchise cannot be building people. They have to be the deal NOW. This over the top desire to play SHIT for 3 years in the hope KAdri becomes our 1st line center isnt good enough for the biggest team in teh world. We should have got the Stastny and if need be used KAdri to get him BEFORE free agency - because if he doesnt make it........

We should not be doing the whole build up and develop phase untill we have the bedrock of excellence at every level to be the teacher.

For me its like getting top end talent, making them study at Harvard but have Will Farell and Mike Myers be their professors. Sure chuckle chuckle ha ha of a film but the talent and the environment doesnt make the man, they need proper guidance.

1 week, 5 days ago on Game Review: Game #2, Pittsburgh Penguins 5 vs. Toronto Maple Leafs 2

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@Leafs_17 @Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs @Cameron19 @Jmessih 

I knew that and here is my point.

OHL to the biggest hockey club in the world. Take 4 other worlds from the cosmos and still they would struggle to find a team as big as the TORONTO MAPLE LEAFS and yet this step in promotion is considered "normal": How many would agree if we appointed players straight from the OHL. (at the moment might be a blessing - lol) He was a GM of a youth hockey set up, all he could really give us is the secrets of how a boy develops to a guy good enough to be drafted. He offers nothing to get another 10 points out of Phill. How to handle guys who are tough and play with their hearts on their sleeves, something mid 17 18 19 year olds dont do at a decent level, How to get through to players after a string of losses when losses actually do matter.

I guess he has credentials but the Leafs organisation deserves the best not some untried fad from youth hockey that relies on enthusiasm and numbers. In the NHL you dont have that luxury.

1 week, 5 days ago on Game Review: Game #2, Pittsburgh Penguins 5 vs. Toronto Maple Leafs 2

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@Cameron19 @Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs @Jmessih 

I think they pushed the stats angle to justify a quite incredible jump in promotion in job. What was he before he was TORONTO MAPLE LEAFS back room staff?

1 week, 5 days ago on Game Review: Game #2, Pittsburgh Penguins 5 vs. Toronto Maple Leafs 2

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@Cameron19 @Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs @Jmessih 

Oh Cam come down off your horse fella.

Ive studied Mathematics at one of Swedens top two Universities. I understand statistics. For every assumption you make or area you analyze you half their effectiveness to tell the truth. Ask Dubas if you dont believe me. I just feel their is no need in sports to appoint a statistician - certainly not in an equal footing as a guy who has the talent to see a true talent just by watching him play.

Im sure Dubas is a great guy and can make an awesome Guacamole but maybe he should be let go and get this back on a sport footing rather than a scientific endeavor. Just saying.   

1 week, 5 days ago on Game Review: Game #2, Pittsburgh Penguins 5 vs. Toronto Maple Leafs 2

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@Luke_R 

Carlyle isnt to blame- Hes a plumber with a hammer nails and a wood saw. What do you want to do, reinvent the man or give him the proper tools.

1 week, 5 days ago on Game Review: Game #2, Pittsburgh Penguins 5 vs. Toronto Maple Leafs 2

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@Jmessih @Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs 

yep

Shanny brought in to give us an identity and all that has proven to be is take a back seat and watch an impotent GM try to fuck a christmas turkey

Dubas probably has a really good fantasy hockey team but people arent robots conforming to previous actions - hes a geek, a nerd and a talentless prick with self appointing diety status and autistic shit for brains.

If they dont agree then Ill fly over and give the cabby and The Big Bang Theory a punch on the nose.

1 week, 5 days ago on Game Review: Game #2, Pittsburgh Penguins 5 vs. Toronto Maple Leafs 2

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@Jmessih 

Nonis - impotent

Shanahan - cab driver

Dubas - nerd and a twat

No No No - fucking clean out needed.

1 week, 5 days ago on Game Review: Game #2, Pittsburgh Penguins 5 vs. Toronto Maple Leafs 2

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