I do believe in goats
I do believe in goats
I do I do
I do believe in goats.
Keep both. In one year Robidas is done, age wise and contract and then after a touch of learning from an old pro we can utilize the taught talent.
4 hours, 54 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Leafs face banged-up Blue Jackets tomorrow
Todays round up.
Toronto are great we beat a shit team who managed only 10 shots.
Cody Hodgson who cant make the Buffalo team proper is now good enough for the Leafs.
I started drinking even heavier.
1 day, 3 hours ago on Game Review: Game #9, Toronto Maple Leafs 4 vs. Buffalo Sabres 0
@Great Dane @mr_hanie
I think a new rule should be introduced saying that ANY team that drops more than 6 places league wide in the standings from one year to the next is automatically taken out of the lottery draft and drafts 7th overall at best.
1 day, 9 hours ago on Game Review: Game #9, Toronto Maple Leafs 4 vs. Buffalo Sabres 0
There are teams without a franchise player (No1 or 2 pick) who have won the stanley cup in recent years and then there are those that barely win games.
Only difference is they will continue to shoot and continue to be a burden. Kadri however will just go stale and believe his own hype.
Of course he will hes inconsistent. He will then go the next 8 games scoring 0 points. But we will all say hes almost their as he will have 8 points in 11.
We are celebrating a win over a team that would struggle in the AHL.
Two different angles. Up the ice and looking back. The side where the Buffalo bench is as well. NO Buffalo players seen on the ice. Thats 50%, an entire side empty yet we still manage to get two player take each other out. Even if this didnt injure a player this is comical to the point of suicidal stuff right here. An injury occurs this is too painful to even think about.
Please please please fire Nonis and trade away that clueless donkey that is Kadri. Trade our first next year as it will be high but we all know wont be a top 4 pick. AND get a proper guy in there. Jesus F-king christ. and for equality Mo C-ting Ham-ed.
1 day, 12 hours ago on Game Review: Game #9, Toronto Maple Leafs 4 vs. Buffalo Sabres 0
@Savo43 @dlb Mad
Nope just seen Ashtons pics from training earlier. Hes wearing a pointy hat and its definitely the letter D on it.
2 days, 3 hours ago on Tuesday Mashup: Randy is sneaky
$9 dollars an hour? I wouldnt wipe my own ass after a wet fart for that money - Id rather go out well greased.
Toffoli can also play center.
2 days, 6 hours ago on Tuesday Mashup: Randy is sneaky
What is this upset about hiring someone young. What has got that in your head. I have always preached youth development and if youre good enough youre old enough. I have an issue because
1: I think he muddies the waters
2: He is a dynamic which players can use as a reason for failure diverting that from their own efforts
3: You say below hes not working or above hes not even done anything yet but you also say the players are raving about him and hes made a big difference. Which one is it.?
I just feel we need to go back to basics - clean it out go 100% old school hockey. It wont be pretty but when we get that done then we can add ideas and skill. What we have at the moment is questionable skill with little to no guidance. No real strength in ANY areas on teh ice. We cant clear the zone, we are so so on the power kill and if we lost one player Komarov we would be the leagues worst. Our PP is shit. We dont get in front of the net. We cant hold the puck. We cant string three passes together most nights. The goal tending is at best learning. Its just complete chaos. Surely you see this?
3 days, 5 hours ago on Monday Mashup: Picking up where they left off
Are you telling me he goes there and fiddles his thumbs. Earning a good wage whilst talking to the press in a "non official" capacity. Is that what you are telling me. Of course hes doing work or otherwise the players would not be (your words) raving about him.
I know of him just as much as you do. Have you spoken to him personally and have inside knowledge. Ive managed football teams and understand sports psychology and sports science albeit at a non professional level but guys who gave it their all in a national league. Im saying this guy is clouding the issue. Its giving an excuse to the players. I dont pretend I have all the answers but I have a little understanding. Would be nice if you could keep insults down to a minimum. We might not agree but thats because we are polar opposites in how we think the team should be run at this moment in time.
They had the luxury of adding a piece that would complement or give another angle on an already very successful team with belief and an ethos. Bringing in new ideas when the team is dogshit and everybodies shoulders have dropped is only making rebuilding more difficult. You have to go back to basics and take a very raw direction. When that shows some results then and only then can you add flavours to the salted chips.
If players are raving about someone I can guarantee you he is the wrong guy. Players should be concentrating on the Job in hand. If they are enjoying it they arent being pushed hard enough. A hockey player in the NHL is not just playing the "game", it isnt an extension of his passtime. Its his f-king job. He should hate it and not want to stay around after the match or training. Problem is players are wrapped up in cotton wool and told they are brilliant before proving jack shit. NONE of our guys has proven a thing with teh exception of Phil, hes score over 40 goals thats it.
A GM should understand enough about stats to be enough to AID him (not determine) who needs to be brought in. The GM should have an understanding of coaching a team and what it could take or otherwise therein lies the problem. Why should a GM pick players that doesnt work for teh incumbent coach. A players agent is exactly the kind of guy you DONT WANT in the corridors of power, they are scum. I can go on.
Cam my friend. Are you f-king him? Why the over the top defense? Hes proved nothing! Sure he may be the future but I have ambition even if the rest of you have given up and dont want some young upstart with new ideas clouding a really muddy picture with a fad and cutting his teeth in the WORLDS LARGEST HOCKEY FRANCHISE.
Ok Cam lets just kick the argument of the stats clean out the window.
Who is he? Why when we have a GM/president and Shanahan (director of operations?) why do we need a Dubas?, Why does he even need to open his mouth to the press? Why do we have to care. He's back room staff. Do we hear from the copier guy next? He isnt a hockey guy, hardly played himself just like Nonis and its time to get the suits out.
Also who likes it in any job around the world not just hockey. When a new kid comes in, is the youngest or close to in the whole organisation and you just cant fathom out who what and why hes there, who is he to say anything. It gets peoples backs up.
@Bruffins @Cameron19 @Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs @Mcost61
Bruffins its a fad. Its based on nothing. It can maybe push a good team an extra 1% or 2% and over a season could mean the difference between just missing the play offs or just scraping in or making a play off series go 7 games instead of 5 but it wont get you a No1C, It wont get you a 2nd line winger. It wont get you a stay at home d-man who can eat minutes.
If Dubas is at a loss why the Leafs are losing then I think the proof is there. He is as clueless as the rest of them.
I know why. They are shit! complete f-ing bolox.
@Cameron19 @Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs @Mcost61
True?? Its something that cant be tested to see if its true - its an opinion. Ive seen in it sport in Europe and the success rate was 0%. Like players have a gift in hockey, managers have a man to man gift and can explain things clearly, scouts and GMs see a player and just know. Dubas is relying on stats. Stats are a guide and thats it. Nothing more.
If its so unbelievable then why is it believable that Bozak is the No1C for the worlds largest hockey organization.
3 days, 6 hours ago on Monday Mashup: Picking up where they left off
Dubas youre a fraud, naff off son. Fantasy hockey and stat gazing is all very well but it doesnt translate to the real world. If it did I would be GM and I would have won the Stanley Cup by now.
Wow unbelievable news coming in. The Leafs have traded for Anze Kopitar and Bozak going the other way with a 2nd 2015, 2nd 2016 and a conditional pick. LA ae really excited having power play king Bozak on theri first line stating, we really did scrape through these past couple of years with ACME Kopitar.
What happens if one of Winnik Carrick or Panik gets injured. It would mean disaster, cant just fill it with any Prick.
4 days, 1 hour ago on Game Review: Game #8, Boston Bruins 4 vs. Maple Leafs 1
On your bicycle - we'll draft 3rd and miss McDavid and Eichel.
4 days, 4 hours ago on Game Review: Game #8, Boston Bruins 4 vs. Maple Leafs 1
Selling double glazing might help?
ha ha ha ha
We should all do that.
All of us go to the doctors or hospital and absolutely overwhelm the system with Leaf-bola cases. A form of social terrorism (sorry about the timing). ALL the news papers will be full of Leafs fans arent happy, mystery illness - lol. When every page of the newspapers are filled with dejected Leafs fans then maybe management will listen.
4 days, 5 hours ago on Game Review: Game #8, Boston Bruins 4 vs. Maple Leafs 1
@Cameron19 @Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs @deedrag
I think they are worth it. Lets take the stamkos example. 5 1st rounders. OK Rielly we have Gardiner. We are struggling because we are bringing up two young puck movers first d-men that are very young and like all youngsters prone to mistakes. This move of having both forced us into Polak and Robidas, against everything anyone had said before of not trading for veterans with only downside as they take up the roster space from the youth. Nylander, hasnt played yet so we cant count him. We will draft next year but we wont get McDavid - god hates us. Stamkos meanwhile betters Kessel and JVR, gives Kadri someone to learn from that isnt called Bozak. We wouldnt have had the Bolland affair of trading away picks for nothing. It is beneficial and sometimes you have to speculate to accumulate.
Maybe they should stop that then. They dont have to. They are always playing safe. A player coming up to RFA does not have a no sending down to teh AHL clause in their contract and if they arent prepared to be franchise guys and play the ball then you bench them.
This is a tool that actually benefits the rich team and puts huge pressure on teh small teams. The problem is the Leafs management are playing by ethical rules by some outdated idea that everyone plays fair and by the books, they dont and we should take advantage of our money as poor teams can take advantage of offering a team with cap problems cap relief just to make the cap floor. Isnt that "ethically" questionable. Isnt it questionable that a team like NYR make ridiculous multi year deals to dogshit holding a stick knowing they are a big team and have massive negotiating rights at the next CBA only to agree with everything the Unions wanted AS LONG as they get buyouts. Effectively buying the years before a CBA to try and win a cup WITHOUT any intention of fulfilling the contractual obligations to said dogshit player. Is this ethical. Its time in this modern world for the Leafs to show their teeth and start eating dog.
Deserve it if you allow your players to get to RFA. You should have guys signed up long before and if they dont they dont play - simple as.
Its just business the fact that no one does it is because they are all cowards and not prepared to play the game.
Of course they work Cam. You force the other team to over spend. That means come next free agency they dont have money but you do. I would have offered the going rate 5 1sts and offered Stamkos 12 million 8 year.
Love it so happy for him.
BUT if he is another Crsby/Stamkos then why are we prepaed to shit the bed for an eternity but NOT offer sheet Stamkos. Because of what we would have to give up what Nylander and a lottery ticket to McDavid. What the 10 million we would have to pay him? Gunna have to pay McDavid that sooner than later. Stop dreaming, youre a leafer! Dreams dont come true.
WHAT? unproven and you say we have wingers to compliment McDavid if thats the aim - lolololol @ the Leafs winning the draft lottery. Anyway Nylander may well turn out to be a center, Ill keep you posted.
4 days, 6 hours ago on Game Review: Game #8, Boston Bruins 4 vs. Maple Leafs 1
By flinging shit into my own face, stabbing my dick with a fork I am safe in the knowledge atleast the Leafs cant be any worse.
Why am I not on twitter -lol
You get it. Im pissed off with this sideways steps mentality on here. Celebrate the fact we have a f-ing awesome RW in Kessel and get someone who can help him AS MUCH as he helps them.
Nice write up Alec. And thank you for keeping your shit together and not saying FUCK THIS SHIT IM GOING HOME! Because you were/are well within your rights - lol
How about hiring a GM who know what it is to play hockey? How about hiring a person person rather than an analytical autist. How about passion and aggression rather than a measured response and soundbites. How about the will to win at all costs instead of financial turnover.
The Leafs are two years behind where we were pre-Burke.
4 days, 11 hours ago on Game Review: Game #8, Boston Bruins 4 vs. Maple Leafs 1
@Bring the Cup Home @Dogger
And your sample size is what. If it was intelligent posts today then you sir may be classed a moron.
5 days, 5 hours ago on Friday Mashup: Chara out 4-6 weeks, Leafs play Boston Saturday
@Bring the Cup Home
NO NO NO NO.
Nonis please dont come on here and spout your spineless side-ways moves on here to garner interest or objection - just dont have those thoughts in the first place.
Hurr durr I know. Have a YOUNG top 10 forward who scores 40 goals a year and would easily break 50 if a No1C was playing alongside him. (Ovi gets 50-60 with BAckstrom, imagine Phil with Backstrom if he can do just 10-15 less with Bozak) And then die in a year on a 1/5 lottery ticket, draft McDavid who then gets after 2 or 3 years 40 goals and wishing that slow in the head Nonis finds a Kessel for him to play with so he can emulate where Phil Kessel was before we purposely shit the bed.
YAWN F-ing YAWN
Sad though that is, it is a civil war. We have all had them and disastrous as they are they should stay on the shores of said country. Terrorism is disgusting as it has repercussions way beyond an act of murder.
5 days, 6 hours ago on Friday Mashup: Chara out 4-6 weeks, Leafs play Boston Saturday
@vinoa @Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs @docmma
lol I never claimed it and youre probably right, I also think the modern version was Harry Truman.
Like I said there are Lies, Damn Lies and then there are Statistics.
Now ask the question and equate it into your figures. WHO in the leafs team did those later round picks have to displace to get game time. Did Detroit have such poor players playing for them, if not and history said they didnt HOW could their later round picks displace their stars.
In Detroit it takes a prince to depose a king. In Toronto we are celebrating excellent drafting because a shoe shine deposes a garbage collector.
@Hmmm @Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs @vinoa @Dogger
I think you have to be a little more ambitious than Bolland if you want success.
5 days, 7 hours ago on Friday Mashup: Chara out 4-6 weeks, Leafs play Boston Saturday
@vinoa @Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs @Dogger
Im with you Vinoa. Its all about momentum. Just like we get stuck in a rut and lose 30 games of 40 so can winning be breed into a team through a feeling of invincibility. I get that. So Detroits picks have over excelled where ours have underachieved because our draftees had NO ONE to learn from. Who has KAdri had in the system to teach him to be a CENTER, best guy Bozak. Who did Schenn have to teach him to be a stay at home guy? not Phanny he is a half and half and was still young himself. Not Kubina he was a poor half and half guy, Not Kaberle as he was also a half and half guy, not Strålman he was too young himself and a half and half guy. (half and half I mean not quite a stay at home guy but not Dan Marino the quarterback either, a jack of all trades master of none). This is our proble.
I say we should have dealt the pick, got a No1C finished the education of Kadri by giving him a No1C to follow by example instead of picking a player that could reach his potential if he wasnt with us. Loss 1 pick in 1 year. Gain better Kadri, better season, winning mentality for all, direction purpose and the following years draft pick has a tutor.
No the US voted for a dead congressman. He died just before election and postal and sympathy votes got him elected. Not sure what actually happened but I can say he didnt with his policies damage the country as bad as ANY swedish politician has for their country - lol
@docmma @Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs @vinoa @Dogger
Management absolutely. ¨Development sure and thats due to NO cup winners in the team, no real success. We are a decent team and Ive always thought with a couple of big names it would propel us to conference championship games but our GM is worthless.
What I was trying to get at above but was more of a rant. If we draft a 1st rounder and then deal him using after a number of years and get a draft pick back for him then surely that pick shouldnt count in your summation as that devalues the argument of how many we picked.
For instance. Detroit in one year drafts 7 players, seven make the team. and then go on to draft 7 the following year. 14 in all. Now we draft 7 players, 7 make the team but we trade 3 of them as we are shit at drafting get 3 picks back and so next year we draft 10. In total 17. That is not a measure of success
I havent seen enough to make that call, ill be honest about that. I just havent taken in too many Marlies games as its not shown here in sweden and my mobile internet connection is dogshit for streaming from sites with 100+ adverts ass raping flashplayer. lol.
Ill trust your judgement.
In that list is Antropov in there? Steen? Stajan? Brad Boyes? Rask? Stralman? etc etc etc if so that isnt totally fair as they have played alot or most their time with other teams. ALSO Detroits draftees are given time to develop and learn the detroit way of playing. We change coach and idea every other season. We trade players away for hopefull or second round picks which give us the edge on what Detroit picks. They dont trade away they develop. We draft cant develop, trade away in deals with 1st teamers that didnt pan out because we didnt sign a superstar to teach them their trade so they went stale. Use those 2nd round picks we get and do pretty much teh same again.
What you should do is make a list and count the numbers since 2000 how many have played for their respective clubs AND how long. Things would be massively different.
And herein lies the lie that is statistics. You can prove anything if you dont tell the whole scenario. I can prove for instance that Swedish nationals have less wealth on average than the Sudanese and the USA has better elected officials than Sweden when voted in when dead.
I think he will be a pretty serviceable guy. Not a top top guy, maybe a Carter or someone of that ilk. But is that to base the worlds largest hockey franchise on. NO, Its a good start but a completely pointless one if he comes to the big club and learns his trade from Bozak or KAdri who himself learned from Bozak.
The GM need to put down another f-ing Doughnut and do some work.