I do believe in goats
I do believe in goats
I do I do
I do believe in goats.
My heart goes out to you guys and hope everyone stays safe and no more incidences take place. Stay strong and lets not let these backward bastards change our way of life. Go on as normal but remember the true heroes of this world. Not the made up drug taking ideology of the bog standard nobodies from the third world. Remember our boys fought against such regimes and won their place in history, we will win again.
7 hours, 14 minutes ago on Game Review: Game #7, Toronto Maple Leafs 5 vs. New York Islanders 2
FFS hes not 20
2 days, 3 hours ago on Monday Mashup: Taking on the toughs
@dlb Mad @Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs
From day one we expected Schenn because he was drafted high to be the savior of our 200 goals against a season. A boy filling a mans boots. He will develop into a half decent stay at home guy, hes still young but by no means is he a 7th overall pick, I said at the time and I hated Burkes idiocy of drafting D-men all the time for a team that needs help now. But whats done is done.
2 days, 10 hours ago on Leafs Notebook – October 20
But I can understand why its played. What is Phil, what is Franson. They are neither rock solid game reading stay at home guys nor are they quarterbacks. They are somewhere between the two, Jack of all trades - master of none. I like that type of player if you want a defensive aware two man D on the power play, I get that. I also get that type of player if you want to pair them up with a real tough as nails stay at home guy but feel the old one stay back and one rush forward is too risky.
But 5 v 5 its always seems to be the case of shall I go, no no after you or hang on I thought I was going shit - oh for fuck sake and the announcer announcing an away goal.
@dlb Mad Hes a young guy and d-men take many more years to develop than a forward. Most teams put a young puck mover on the 3rd line and give ample 5-4 play where the defense side of things happens rarely and if it does with little pressure, a kind of bedding in - see NJ and Gelinas.
I dont expect to get finished article rich pickings from Rielly for another 5 years and Gardiner and Franson another 2 years. My issue with the d has always been we have too many youngsters to veteran ratio and expect too much too soon.
@vinoa @dlb Mad @Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs
yeah but they didnt. If we had have picked Ryan ORielly in the 2009 draft a whole round earlier then we would have a center a little bit more consistent and more of an edge to him. But we didnt.
Make a list of Detroits draftees that have made teams and then list ours, you will be surprised.
3 days, 6 hours ago on Game Review: Game #6, Red Wings 1 vs. Maple Leafs 0 (OT)
True Yak bt we dont have enough elite players in the team so marking one out of the game is hardly a hardship for even the tamest of defences.
Kessel is a real elite skater and world class shot and is maturing to be a decent allrounder BUT still defensively rather suttle in his approach. Now ALL teams can cope with a guy who doesnt do all that dfensively, Semin, Gaborik, Ovi (even though thats changing) RNH (ok Edmonton arent coping at all lol) but when the next elite skater on any given night is on the opposing team sheet then youre going to have trouble. Our No1 center is a 3rd liner. Kadri is a frustrating inconsistant jerk who promises much but delivers 75% every other night and 50% the others. Non game changing and very few even worthy of a scoring line. Lupul is a guy who should be as a vet on the 2nd or 3rd lines but thats it and his value is in trade rather than keeping him. JVR is something to get excited about but is still young and still prone to mistakes. Our 2nd line winger kozun/frattin/winnik is laughable and only the Leafs would think of this. This team is non competitive. They win a percentage of games just by what you would expect by turning up. Its sad.
Columbus is heads and shoulders over us. NYI have over taken us. the Devils possibly too and Carolina is garbage bvut still holds a more consistent higher level than us. Buffalo Edmonton and Florida are the only teams I consider as worse than us.
I think the difference between Detroit and the Leafs in that regard is Detroit can match any of our scouting for the 1st round in their fourth round. Historically we have drafted garbage and at best massively frustrating individuals that you know, hand on heart, wouldnt even feature in one of the top 5 teams.
Ive heard on here for years that a goal tender means everything to an organisation and we have really gone through our fair share of shit. So Im presuming everyone on here now is saying Gustavsson is a monster?
Ive been saying for ages its the organisation and if you put Rask in this set up he would struggle to post under 3.00 GAA and a save percentage much less than he has now as the shot would be right on his doorstep at favourable angles for the forward unlike at Boston where they do their job.
Can we now tell NONIS to fuck off.
f-ing wind up merchant . lol
4 days ago on Game Day: Game #6, Maple Leafs at Red Wings (7 p.m., CBC)
Hes trying not to be a dick and concede a penalty
what a load of f-king horse shit Dion gets a penalty for being thrown to the ground
@T K O
On back to back nights why is their consensus for a goalie change, which I feel is fair but why isnt their line changes. Like a 1A and 1B 1st line for such days. For example if the Kessel line plays max minutes and Phannys line plays max minutes at home then why cant we give Robidas Gardiner and Lupuls line the max minutes the following night.
There just isnt good man management in back to backs and the Leafs always get their fare share of them. Other teams do this but I guess we have 2/3rds of a 1st line (Kessel line) and 1/3 of a second line or better still 2 halfs of a 1/3rd (Lupul line). And this is the fault of the GM, he is crap and asking Carlyle to match the ambition of the fan base with traffic cones dressed in blue is a thankless task. We are still 5 years + away from being a division contender. Carry on at the same pace of developing players and trading for players then we will never reach the conference final.
4 days, 3 hours ago on Saturday Mashup: Round Two, Hopefully Better than Round One
great start to the period for the Marlies - jesus H christ
4 days, 4 hours ago on Saturday Mashup: Round Two, Hopefully Better than Round One
@T K O @Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs
I thought he didnt but then again eyes teared over so if Carlyle came on chasing toast I wouldnt have noticed lol
4 days, 6 hours ago on Saturday Mashup: Round Two, Hopefully Better than Round One
has anyone been called up?
left the game in the 3rd after taking a puck
Does anyone know the practice lines. IS Winnik out, Kozun is Im pretty sure about. Who makes up the top 6?
Ze, what does the Ze stand for, its not a rip off of my name is it. I dont meet many people with names starting with Ze, me being the only Zeus I know EXCEPT for a powerful bleach and an old rottweiler dog our neighbour used to have, that could if you left a toilet roll on the ground, be able to lift it up with his red rocket.
5 days, 5 hours ago on Friday Mashup: Wings back to back on deck
Did he work out that the girl was probably wheel chair bound by her poor acceleration, inability to climb stairs without burning up to three times as many calories as Phanny does in a match or was it that her turn overs were more prevalent on banked bends or did the geek just open his eyes.
@TheLoovTrain @Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs @Cameron19 @traNsplantEdneWfie @dlb Mad
Havent watched too much with those guys so will reserve judgement. The swedish league doesnt play as many games as the NHL so I cant watch as bigger array of teams as I can from the nhl. I also have teh wrong TV packet. Im with Viasat so I get every NHL match, the SHL and KHL are on Canal Digital. I do occasionally get to watch the odd match but usually only the top teams or if they play in Europe. Personally Im a HV71 fan so keep a keen interest in Frölunda and Farjestad as they have been our rivals for years.
6 days, 10 hours ago on Wednesday Mashup: Back to .500
@Cameron19 @Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs @traNsplantEdneWfie @dlb Mad
I know Cam but a handy player nontheless in his prime, Im thinking his days in Philly not the Riemer whacking frog blowing days
our 7th, hopping for a Zetterberg?
He´s young, he mixes it with the big boys but Im not so sure about small guys? He remonds me a bit of a young Gionta (sorry for swearing) but 3 and 3 in 10 for Frolunda isnt so bad
Cam thats why I would do what we should have done in the beginning and brought in E.Staal. A 1st round pick next year + should get the job done especially as we are too stupid to lose and get McDavid. even if we dumped Kessel and Phanny wed still be drafting around 6th -12th. Carolina will see it as a possible chance to combine our pick with theirs should they miss the top two draft possitions and trade up.
Kessel Staal JVR
Yakupov Kadri Lupul
Clarkson Bozak Komarov
as a much brighter set up than we have now.
@dlb Mad @traNsplantEdneWfie
Did I just read that you think Yak wouldnt upgrade the second line and that Winnik is doing a good job.
I need a drink now.
6 days, 11 hours ago on Wednesday Mashup: Back to .500
Cam the Russian coach didnt say that with that meaning. He said he didnt want Yakupov on the Olympic team as he was struggling in Edmonton. He was trying to give the boy a sharp kick up the arse to get his game in order. Who would he have replaced anyway Malkin? Ovi? Semin.? Kovi? Tarashenko? even Kuznetsov didnt make it and he was youth team captain. Fact is Russia is stacked and didnt need to rush a player and the north american anti russian sentiment pushed the press and made stupid articles miss translating a lot.
Yakupov is class
Why is it expected that Gagner, RNH, Eberle are allowed to be all soft and lazy in their defensive responsibilities but a much younger guy who should be shielded on a scoring line have to mix it up with adults. Look at teh Seguin situation. Same thing there. Treat the player like garbage, make him earn his stripes if it doesnt work make a fuss and scream blue murder and how the boy is crap. Is he? Is he really? I bet Boston with their cap issues had have kept a 40 goal scorer instead of that lame duck Eriksson.
@Cameron19 @traNsplantEdneWfie @dlb Mad
I would, why wouldnt you Cam.?
There is nothing wrong with him, its just the coach there is a prat and way out of his depth. Eberle and RNH injured and still Yak doesnt get a chance despite working harder and being at the time 1G and 1A in 3 matches. All for a team that sucks. He stayed on the 2nd and didnt even recieve an extra minute of playing time.
There is some serious waste of talent going on in Edmonton and the main reason why I think the draft is unfair and stupidly communist.
yeah he just sliced Riems with his stick.
1 week, 2 days ago on Game Day: Game #3, Toronto Maple Leafs vs. New York Rangers (7 p.m., City TV)
Percy the axeman
Dont get it. How would getting Hertl from San Jose get us an Eichel or McDavid. You forget one major factor in this calculation of yours. The Maple Leafs are too thick to lose enough games.
1 week, 3 days ago on Game Day: Game #3, Toronto Maple Leafs vs. New York Rangers (7 p.m., City TV)
Our GM should come out and say just that.
Toronto is where stars come to shine but none have the bollox to make it their home.
You can through trade cam and if you get in 2 or 4 guys through trade in that the hockey world see as top prospects and real excitement then the free agents will want to be part of it.
This is the domain of the GM and our GM and his advisers have been proved to be totally inept.
1 week, 3 days ago on Game Review: Game #2, Pittsburgh Penguins 5 vs. Toronto Maple Leafs 2
@Leafs_17 @Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs @Cameron19
Ive noticed our GMs arent prepared to pay but rather pay what they think is fair. And Ive learned in my 39 years of life that nothing is fair. lol.
We had a chance with Stastny, Richards and countless others but werent prepared to pay. And as for trades nonexistent. What did Hartnell cost Columbus, Umberger and a 4th and Nonis couldnt match that. Instead we see Clarkson on the same money for longer. And what would the Leafs draft with a 4th, name our last 4th round draft pick that made the team? If we cant get many 1st rounders right what makes us think any other draft pick we pick is worth anything at all.
Stars will come but it takes 2 or 3 big names to attract no 4 and no 5 to see something is being built. Why would a free agent come, he probably wont we need to trade for a few names first THEN free agents will want to come to the biggest party in town.
Not heated Cam just passionate. I respect you way too much to think youre a run of the mill hockey fan with blue tinted glasses. Just having fun my friend, sometimes some things arent said on here forcefully enough and I like to keep ideas and passions at max rather than become a dull "given up" humm as background noise of discontent.
Bollox with all respect.
If Columbus, LA, NJ (now) and endless other teams can do it then so can we.
What happens in your world if Kadri doesnt develop past what he is now.He will still argue for 5 or 6 million when his contract is up due to his "stats" and his age up to now. 1 million more and that is Stastny. Hes still young and plenty of time to fix things.
Nylander what happens if he doesnt make it, what would you have got with the first. Stastny?? So you could have kept Kadri AND had Stastny. But instead you have risk and 2 or 3 years of shit play. Taking 3 years out of the careers of Kessel, Lupul, JVR, Phaneuf, Gardiner, Bernier waiting for one or two guys. Let alone the plethora of 1 or 2 year contracts deemed to be our saviors. (Polak, Robidas, Komarov, Santerelli, Panik, etc etc etc).
If Columbus lose a game the fans of hockey say well a field were a battle raged some 150 years ago is no true hockey market anyway and they let it slide. A youngster here doesnt feel the same pressure as playing for the Leafs. A team who just lost to Crosby, Fleury, Malkin, Kunitz, Letang, Ehrhoff and good second tier guys is hounded and bitched about despite the fact all they have is Kessel, JVR, Phanny who is on his 2nd game back on a different side, a sophomore Rielly and effectively a sophomore great hope in goal. WHY because the LEafs is a play now, win now, hockey city with wordly expectations. This is not a place for the new, for fads or wannabees. This is a place for stars and it is possible for stars to be here, play here and be afforded here. We have the same cap as LA, Chicago Pittsburgh etc its just we pay over the odds for shite. And thats the fault of the GM not the concept of wage cap hockey.
@Cameron19 @Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs @Jmessih
The term nerd isnt a derogatory in the term of not knowing his job, its slightly derogatory in terms thats all he can do. I dont doubt he is an up and coming guy, who like anyone with the right coaching, could make the top, WE as a top franchise cannot be building people. They have to be the deal NOW. This over the top desire to play SHIT for 3 years in the hope KAdri becomes our 1st line center isnt good enough for the biggest team in teh world. We should have got the Stastny and if need be used KAdri to get him BEFORE free agency - because if he doesnt make it........
We should not be doing the whole build up and develop phase untill we have the bedrock of excellence at every level to be the teacher.
For me its like getting top end talent, making them study at Harvard but have Will Farell and Mike Myers be their professors. Sure chuckle chuckle ha ha of a film but the talent and the environment doesnt make the man, they need proper guidance.
@Leafs_17 @Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs @Cameron19 @Jmessih
I knew that and here is my point.
OHL to the biggest hockey club in the world. Take 4 other worlds from the cosmos and still they would struggle to find a team as big as the TORONTO MAPLE LEAFS and yet this step in promotion is considered "normal": How many would agree if we appointed players straight from the OHL. (at the moment might be a blessing - lol) He was a GM of a youth hockey set up, all he could really give us is the secrets of how a boy develops to a guy good enough to be drafted. He offers nothing to get another 10 points out of Phill. How to handle guys who are tough and play with their hearts on their sleeves, something mid 17 18 19 year olds dont do at a decent level, How to get through to players after a string of losses when losses actually do matter.
I guess he has credentials but the Leafs organisation deserves the best not some untried fad from youth hockey that relies on enthusiasm and numbers. In the NHL you dont have that luxury.
I think they pushed the stats angle to justify a quite incredible jump in promotion in job. What was he before he was TORONTO MAPLE LEAFS back room staff?
Oh Cam come down off your horse fella.
Ive studied Mathematics at one of Swedens top two Universities. I understand statistics. For every assumption you make or area you analyze you half their effectiveness to tell the truth. Ask Dubas if you dont believe me. I just feel their is no need in sports to appoint a statistician - certainly not in an equal footing as a guy who has the talent to see a true talent just by watching him play.
Im sure Dubas is a great guy and can make an awesome Guacamole but maybe he should be let go and get this back on a sport footing rather than a scientific endeavor. Just saying.
Carlyle isnt to blame- Hes a plumber with a hammer nails and a wood saw. What do you want to do, reinvent the man or give him the proper tools.
BOOOOOO you guys have no heart - lol
Shanny brought in to give us an identity and all that has proven to be is take a back seat and watch an impotent GM try to fuck a christmas turkey
Dubas probably has a really good fantasy hockey team but people arent robots conforming to previous actions - hes a geek, a nerd and a talentless prick with self appointing diety status and autistic shit for brains.
If they dont agree then Ill fly over and give the cabby and The Big Bang Theory a punch on the nose.
Nonis - impotent
Shanahan - cab driver
Dubas - nerd and a twat
No No No - fucking clean out needed.
Bruce Arthur are you J.Arthurs brother (wanker). Being put on a line with Kadri is no promotion.
yeah they get angry for losing the final, we cant manage the final 55 minutes of a match - bit of a difference lol
What we need to do is find Nonis car outside a restaurant and set it a blaze. When he comes out saying help help everyone get their dicks out and piss into the wind instead of putting the car out. I have no fucking idea if this makes a point but Im getting drunk to forget Im a Leafer - lol. Win tonight ha ha ha ha - against Lundqvist and with r-r-r-r-r-r-rebound REIMS in goal. God help us.
why not? We havent got guy who can win a match in 60 minutes so by reason we will play more OT and shoot outs than other teams. And those "not good enough" guys havent got what it takes to fool a goalie in a shootout.
I agree that the effort wasnt there and for alot of that it has to do with a poor preseason and even worse young prospects in the set up. Other teams have their top players taking a temporary back seat as the youngsters get a good 5,6,7 games at the seasons beginning to showcase their stuff. These youngsters have been at training camp longer and more match fit that the seasoned pros that had little over a week. They also try harder as they are desperate to make the team. Problem with the Leafs is the youth is shit and they are backed up by 1,2 or maybe 3 top players unlike many a team that can boast 6,7 or 8 top guys.
The whole rebuild through Burke and Nonis has been royally bungled and no coach in the world can stop this slide. It will get better as other teams drop their youngsters for further development and our top guys wake up but it wont get much better than previous years, a total 40-60 whether we make the playoffs.
not only that but if you take away 20 000 loyal fans who stay away in protest 20 000 will fill their shoes in minutes.
yep and exactly why Toronto needs a second franchise. I will always be a sad Leafer sitting up to 3am watching 19 grown men shit the bed and no one taking the blame BUT without something to give the owners a royal kick in the cunt there is no reason for them to change their pitiful money grabbing attitudes.
Carlyle isnt the problem, Kessel isnt the problem its much higher up.