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@IveHadPhaneuf @deedrag I'd like to see this same stat over past few years. My guess is it would be pretty consistent in terms of them ranking near the bottom. I don't think it is a slump. I think they just do not buy in to playing good D, or as a line, don't feed off each other properly in their own zone.
1 week, 1 day ago on Game Review: Game #27, Toronto Maple Leafs 4 vs. Calgary Flames 1
@MaxwellHowe @deedrag wow, that is the most telling stat I have seen. Watching them game in game out it is clear they are awful defensively, so I guess I am not surprised. What is surprising is that RC chooses to ignore the problem versus trying to fix it. We need at least one good defensive player on that line.
@Hmmm @ninepaces was at Flames - Sharks game last night. SJ plays five forwards on PP (if you include Burns as a forward). Not that unusual actually and using Kadri should benefit us long term as many top teams deploy that approach. I like Franson in that mix though as he is a points machine. Dion is currently playing the top of the diamond, so either way we appear well covered on PP.
1 week, 4 days ago on Game Review: Game #26, Toronto Maple Leafs 5 vs. Vancouver Canucks 2
@Cameron19 @Coldincowtown @ninepaces someone earlier posted about Leafs possibly getting Hall in a trade. He would be a game changer if he could play with a guy like Phil. Doubt Oilers would ever get that desperate where they deal Hall, but he would probably be the only guy on Oilers i would want on our team.
1 week, 5 days ago on Game Review: Game #25, New Jersey Devils 5 vs. Toronto Maple Leafs 3
@ninepaces @Cameron19 Kessel will never be a great defensive player, but there is no denying his all world talent with the puck, either dishing it to others or putting in the net. You simply can't find many players like that. His problem is the guys with him. I'd like to see him play with some more defensive minded players 5 on 5. As for power play, he is a stud, if he was playing against us we would appreciate how great he really is as an offensive player.
@Cameron19 @Coldincowtown no worries, wasn't trying to bait you, i think Smith is an excellent piece in that trade but Eriksson, meh, pretty soft player. It is really quite amazing that Boston has traded away potentially two of the better centres in the league in past 15 years and remains a contender despite losing both deals (Thornton being the other of course). I know it is still early days for Seguin, but he looks like a star on the rise to me.
@Cameron19 @Coldincowtown gotcha, I wasn't implying they were all terrible either, I found the summary quite interesting as it clearly shows every team has their contract warts and for a short window some players stats can look quite terrible. I could see Bruins-Blues doing something.
@Cameron19 @Coldincowtown mainly because your default position is to debate.
@Xxxxxnew Fair point, but that's more function of their absolutely atrocious defensive core, not Seguin. Man, he would fill our 1C spot nicely.
@Cameron19 True, but guys like Steen and Backes bring a lot more to their game than just points. I would take either one on our team at those salaries. Same could be said for Statsny but his salary just reflects the ongoing stupidity of anyone signing free agents. 20% premium seems to apply to all the big signings.
@wiski Got over on his skis too much and his big mellon toppled him lol
While we will debate the Kessel trade forever, there is little doubt the Bruins got fleeced in the Seguin trade with Dallas.
Unfortunately, our two most improved players this year are Kadri and Franson. Both in contract years, which really sucks. I think Kadri's play has surprised me the most. He is stronger on the puck this year and much better at competing in his own zone. I can't see him being traded as he will fit as a very strong 2C for many years to come. Franson is our problem as many have noted. Wish we had of locked him up last summer as his game just continues to steadily improve. Pay him or trade him. One or the other will need to occur pretty soon. I personally think Jake will be moved to clear space for Franson before year is out, or perhaps post season. I also think JVR or Lupul may be packaged with Jake in a move to get a 1C, but it is a guessing game who that is. If Colorado keeps shitting the bed, perhaps they enter the McDavid sweepstakes and consider moving an elite centre, Duchene anyone? :)
I would like to see a top centre with Kessel. Who do we think Gardner and jvr could get us in a trade? Gotta give to get. I see Nylander filling top six winger role next year so maybe we make a trade and end this defensively horrible trio experiment called ernie, Bert and jvr.
2 weeks ago on Game Review: Game #25, New Jersey Devils 5 vs. Toronto Maple Leafs 3
@Mind Bomb @Mcost61 @Burtonboy It really is a mystery with him. The fact that he plays on PK clearly indicates he knows how to defend. However, he is the first guy to blow the defensive zone early and hang his D out to dry. The whole first line is guilty, but JVR could make a big impact just by being a little more committed on D. Very frustrating.
2 weeks, 2 days ago on Tuesday Mashup: Stars in town tonight
Very well played game by the Leafs. Dare I say it, they seem to be bringing structure to their play. Adding Booth and Lupul makes a big difference. I didn't like Robidas on left side and would prefer they move Rielly with Holzer. Anyway, good comeback. Kadri was a beast particularly in his own end. I never thought I would say that.
3 weeks, 1 day ago on GDT: Game #22, Toronto Maple Leafs vs Pittsburgh Penguins (7:30, SN)
@peterbleafs @Burtonboy @Radar O'Rielly Living in Calgary I have a bunch of friends that are Oiler fans. They are the equivalent of Habs fans West. Don't ever feel sorry for them. Even in defeat they act like the smartest hockey people in the room. Enjoy their continued demise. They don't deserve McDavid, I hope they somehow draft 4th or 5th and pick another dud. btw, was at Flames game last night, there is some really good young talent on that team now, Gaudreau is fun to watch.
3 weeks, 4 days ago on Game Review: Game #21, Toronto Maple Leafs 4, Detroit Red Wings 1
@Marlies Man @peterbleafs @Cameron19 I live in Calgary and am friends with many Oiler fans. You do not ever have to feel sorry for them. They chirp all the time about how great their franchise is and boast about their hockey knowledge. They are the equivalent of Habs fans West. Don't feel sorry for them. btw, I was at Flames game last not. Wow, terrific young talent on that team and great work ethic. Gaudreau is something.
@Cameron19 @Savo43 @Coldincowtown That could work, I would still like Jordan though, as the lineup proposed its still quite smallish down the middle.
3 weeks, 5 days ago on Saturday Mashup: #SaluteGate still going strong, Wings in town tonight
@Cameron19 @Coldincowtown @Savo43 I'll concede the serious injury concern. As for old 26 and hard minutes, I don't buy that argument. If that were true, we would be saying guys like Toews and Crosby are on the downside of their careers (different players for sure, but simllar age and also on many deep run teams).
@Cameron19 @Coldincowtown @Savo43 While not stated in my opening proposal, I would only do both trades together, not one or the other. I want all three Staals.
@Cameron19 @Coldincowtown @Savo43 I wouldn't say Jordan is on the down side of his career, he is 26 years old.
@Savo43 @Coldincowtown all part of the package, had to dump some salary and take on some salary and getting Eric to waive would be critical to getting all three to move (not sure if Jordan or Marc have NTC's).
@Savo43 @Coldincowtown Eric is 31, Phaneuf is 30. They both have their best years behind them. Marc and Jordan are a bit older than Kadri and Gardiner.
@Cameron19 @Coldincowtown @Savo43 No doubt, and two past stanley cup winners would put him in his place in a hurry if was behaving like a jack ass. Besides, we could still trade Kessel.
@Savo43 @Coldincowtown I was responding to your trade proposal for Phaneuf and JVR.
@Savo43 @Coldincowtown My logic is in trying to build a lineup that is bigger down the middle and has some winning pedigree. I admit the Staal experiment has not worked in Carolina, but part of that is due to shit goaltending and injuries. Two past cup winners. If Eric is a bust, we just don't resign him, freeing up cap space. As for Phaneuf, I would love to trade him straight up to NYR for M. Staal but there is no chance of that happening.
@Savo43 @Coldincowtown and bowman is falling off his chair laughing at you.
@Komas Taberle @Zep2 @Coldincowtown Too late, that has already happened.
@ProfessorRance @Coldincowtown Good luck with the rebuild, we are wasting away again in mediocre ville, picking middle of the pack with this crew.
@Cameron19 @Coldincowtown @Savo43 I thought about trading Kessel, the challenge is he is a scoring machine and every team needs at least one. The Staal's would make sure Kessel just did his thing, which is score goals.
@Savo43 @Coldincowtown if you think the three Staal brothers are crap that is pretty funny.
@Leafs_17 @Coldincowtown I gave the like for the pun, but not the feedback.
@Zep2 @Cameron19 @Coldincowtown Saskatoon doesn't have a team :)
@Zep2 @Coldincowtown I think the option to play together in a hockey market would be pretty damn tempting for these guys.
@Savo43 @Coldincowtown You wan't to shift the culture, you need to move out some of the core.
Here is a trade combination that would light up this board:
Phaneuf, JVR to NYR's for Staal and their first round pick;
Kadri, Gardner and the just acquired NYR pick to Carolina for the Staal brothers.
Kessel, E Staal, Lupul
Clarkson, J Staal, Nylander
Winnick, Holland, Booth
Komarov, Bozak, Santo
Three Ontario brothers all capable of handling the media nonsense.
@DeclanK I look forward to him replacing "they" with "we" in that quote next year!
Lupul out for two to three weeks with a strained oblique muscle injury suffered while changing old man's tire, lol
@peterbleafs @Coldincowtown Maybe, but I hope we never have to see the fan salute again, as i said on an earlier post, hang around the rink and sign autographs or give a few kids some hockey sticks post game if you want to endure to fans. This stick salute is such a joke.
Wow, only in Toronto could this salute gate become a front and centre story. Maybe the players were really pissed that fans were hating on them so bad that they threw jerseys on the ice and would have felt like hypocrites if they saluted so soon after that debacle. Maybe, just maybe the media could do their job and report on hockey stories not this crap. Wow, just wow.
I never liked the end of game salute. Comes across as cheesy. I actually like the fact that they ditched it and they should not bother going forward. If they really want to engage with fans, give out sticks to young kids in the crowd after a win.
3 weeks, 5 days ago on Game Review: Game #20, Maple Leafs 5 vs. Lightning 2
@vinoa @Leafs_17 I'd throw P9 into the Kessel for Seguin deal. I personally never liked Spezza and wouldn't want him on our team.
1 month ago on GDT: Game #19, Toronto Maple Leafs vs. Nashville Predators (7:30 p.m., TSN4)
@Leafs_17 @vinoa @Coldincowtown @MaxwellHowe it means a lot. He would fetch us a big return if he was dealt. I don't personally think Kessel is the root cause of our issues, but I would still make him one of many on the trade list if it allowed us to grab elite young talent to start a reset.
@MaxwellHowe @Coldincowtown ….and Raycroft!
@Leafs_17 @vinoa That's why they might be ripe for a deal, just like us. Anyway, doubt it happens, but i'd take Seguin in a leaf uniform for Kessel right away just to reset our make up. Both great talents.
@Leafs_17 @Coldincowtown I'd play the shit of out Seguin in the middle. He would instantly be our number one centre.
@Bring the Cup Home @Wilbur He's tradable. Plenty of teams would take P9 as long as we were willing to eat a bit of his salary, which I would.
@Wilbur @Bring the Cup Home Yes, I still remember Sittler ripping the C off his jersey. I thought that was a low point as a Leaf Fan but they continue to test me.
@Anthony Petrielli Somebody should tell Dreger something drastic already happened, as in 15-4 in last two games. Holy hell he is a dumbass. I used to listen to Dreger, now i change the channel when he talks. He has no info worth listening to.