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@FakeJake51 

i have no way of measuring Holland against those guys.  Kontiola hasn't been in the NHL, Holland has dominated the AHL (which is commonly a last step before a player goes on to become a good NHL player), Winnik was let go by ANA and Santorelli i know very little about (as far as seeing him play gae to game, shift to shift).

Holland's skills are top notch.  who knows if he can put it together?  lots can happen for guys like him over a summer.

1 hour, 45 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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@Loric76 

my kid loved Kessel when he was 6 and half his team names Kessel, Kadri and Rielly as their favourites

the other half names Tavares, Crosby and Kane (Chi).  trying to remember others, but even though LA has won a couple Cups i don't remember hearing anyone say that's their team or name anyone.

14 hours, 1 minute ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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@loomx

why's that?  it's just where we are and where they came from.

14 hours, 14 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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@loomx

misused when you have alternatives is different than a guy playing above his head with not enough support underneath.

Adam Foote wasn't a top pair defender early in his career either.

Polak could be a lot of things.  playing behind 3 Olympians in STL is going to be different than playing with the Leafs.

14 hours, 28 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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@Mattmark

totally.

when the other 4 guys on the ice can do thier jobs, doing your job is well enough.

Gunnar could find himself on a number of pairs.  there are lots of solid D there on each level already.

maybe he'll not throw flippy passes into his partner's skates. maybe he won't get the shakes when he hears footsteps.

i just hope his hip heels up so he stands a chance.  i really would like to see him shine and become the player people said he was.

14 hours, 31 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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@RandomScrub

Shat, 'angelo and 'meester ... good players for Gunnar to find a fit with.

Jackman, Leopold.  not bad at all.  Gunnar could play poorly and settle in to a 3rd pair and be fine there too.

14 hours, 34 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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@RandomScrub 

haha.  remember someone here adament that Granberg could never be as good as Emelin.  not nearly the skater he is haha.  poor Granny.  21 years old with no future.

14 hours, 36 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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@ingy56

ok.  but who was Polak's regular partner in STL?

14 hours, 38 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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@ingy56 

they should.  and let the msm cry about it.

14 hours, 38 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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who was Polak's regular partner in STL?

14 hours, 39 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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@Cloud09

they need Gardiner and Rielly to emerge, and  Robidas to be in top healthy youthful form.

and then stay healthy.  and have more people emerge in the future as Robi wanes.

lot's of emerging needed.

14 hours, 39 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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@Cameron19

you don't have to bring up Gunnarsson in this conversation for me to know where all this Polak doubt comes from.  or rather, why you look for any opportunity to diminish him.

same thing with Bernier because your nose was out of joint the minute people assumed he was coming here to replace Reimer as the #1 guy.

you exagerate with the best of them.  and you hold a grudge longer than most.

14 hours, 42 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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if Phaneuf-Polak somehow is the top pair to start the season, and they do well.  what's the excuse for being wrong?

14 hours, 47 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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who was Polak's regular partner in STL?

14 hours, 47 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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@Cameron19

yup.  this is how you talk.  if the shoe fits.

14 hours, 49 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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@Mattmark

absolutely.  if he's that good.

if he's not, though, will we blame his hip?  or admit he's not superman?

14 hours, 59 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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@Cameron19 

yeah.  that's exactly what i'm saying.  haha.

i'm responding to what you're saying.  that Dion can handle playing with Gunnar but not Polak.  but maybe it'll be ok if Robidas makes it easier on him.  you want Phanuef to be awesome and Polak to be less than Gunnar.

if you think i'm saying Polak IS a top pair capable guy, you're wrong.  if you think i'm saying Dion isn't good enough for tough minutes, you're wrong.

when i said Dion's a problem...it's based on all the excuses you made for him.  playing the left side.  playing with lesser partners.  stop whining.

15 hours ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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@Cameron19

yeah.  hilarious.  what did i say now?

you've been pissy about Gunnar for Polak trade and want us to believe Polak's crap.

oh well.

15 hours, 6 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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@Cloud09

it's not just about Polak.  it's about the entire defense.

Rielly and Gardiner are the guys who will create offense, if we're going to do well.

if Polak can somehow work well with Phaneuf, great!  Dion can run someone and have a partner capable of watching his back.

a guy who won't look the other way when Dion's getting face-washed in his own crease post-whistle.

and i'm more interested in Polak shoring up a 3rd pair that's physical and capable of killing penalties and matching up defensively versus 2nd-3rd lines, to spell Dion and his partner.

15 hours, 8 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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@HHT

did you hear about the Polish beauty pagent winner?

or something like that

15 hours, 11 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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@Cameron19

based on all the things you listed that he can't handle, he is.

and if he's a good defenseman, he will make Polak better.

you're diminishing Polak without giving him a chance.

15 hours, 14 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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@Cameron19

he's never played with Dion.

all this talk about Dion's unfamiliar side is rubbish to me too.  when he played on the left, who was his right-side partner?  Komi?  Schenn?  Holzer?

some things are easier on te left, som on the right.  a good player can do both.  Phanuef will adapt if the team around him doesn't suck.

15 hours, 17 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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@The Toronto Maple Leaf

squeeze?

15 hours, 18 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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@Cameron19

but have you given Polak any chance at all at succeeding on a top pair with Dion as his partner?  you support Dion.  i always felt he made Gunnarsson better moreso than vica versa.  what if Polak is actually better than Gunnar?  why can't Dion-Polak work?

15 hours, 20 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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@Waiting4LSC

he was actually kinda funny, said he didn't want to answer the question about how many times he skated in the summer. summer training, everyone is different.  someone asking question was fishing for something to twist.

in regards to playing on any line, they added scoring from more than one line.  talked about playing with Naz.

if we get 3 scoring lines from splitting the top line, great....right?

"coach said he'd be an idiot to split that top line...but he also knows they need more balanced scoring"

15 hours, 25 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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@sniperstar

i noticed him in the Olympics.  we know there are guys not in the NHL over there, but he stood out and made me question what was keeping him out of the NHL.

every time he was on the ice he seemed to contol the play or contribute to make the A on his sweater make sense.

nice edges there.

18 hours ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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@Burtonboy

would be nice if Booth fulfills his career potential with us.  i'm routing for him as a Leafs fan only though.  those goofy things he's done don't really make me want to care much about him.  so i'm grumpy on the topic.

18 hours, 5 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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@sniperstar

remember when Lombardi came here, his highlights had us talking about how he wasn't afraid to go hard to the net once he beat the D wide

18 hours, 6 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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@sniperstar 

Raymond's faster.  i hope Booth hits and gets dirty.

18 hours, 10 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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@Burtonboy 

i hope they're pointing fun at themselves, but i expect that's above their head

18 hours, 21 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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@Cameron19

Foligno, Horton

and it's true that they have some "not big" speedsters already among them.

doesn't have to be there.  Kozun looked good last year, could have a good camp and draw attention.  some smallish guys made noise in the playoffs and i think it could be good timing for him, bad for us (i'd like to hold on to him)

18 hours, 52 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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@peterbleafs 

gaping hole in camp coverage

19 hours, 12 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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@Cameron19

i could see a team going for Kozun

he's scrappy and could fit on a team like CBJ who have a lot of size already, imo.

19 hours, 12 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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@Cameron19 

that sounded like you were painting Ontario wanting white, racist

so i wanted to let you explain before i was insulted.

and don't underestimate what i know.  Ford supporters come in many shapes and sizes.  one is a 65 year old single grandmother, who Ford responded regarding a tree on her front lawn when no one else would.

22 hours, 10 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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@Burtonboy 

i wonder if my lines from a week ago were anywhere close

where's uncle bob to dig that info up when you need him?

22 hours, 12 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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@Burtonboy 

Della Rovere eh?

Stephan "keep your head up or i'll knock it off" D-R?

22 hours, 14 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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@Yan28

i just don't like the reason.  stats?  seriously?

how good was the team before he played there?

22 hours, 18 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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@Cameron19

"I understand that the opposition doesn't provide what white, sometimes racist, conservative Ontario wants, but it's a lesser of two evils thing - and it's not even close"

i honestly have no idea what this means.

22 hours, 19 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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@Cameron19

he has cancer and is no longer running for mayor.

his brother is now running in his place.

22 hours, 21 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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@RandomScrub

probably was in opposition of the popular commentary moreso than defending Kessel

22 hours, 22 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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@Burtonboy 

i'm a big fan of Kozun

watching some smallish guys excel in the playoffs last year (the Hobbit in NY, for one), i can totally see this gritty and skilled kid make the team eventually.  maybe too much to jump over this year.  but maybe not.

Lupul-Kadri-Kozun could totally work.  ya never know.

22 hours, 24 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Feschuk drops bomb, camp opens with physicals and media day

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