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i like the idea of trying Clarkson on a line with Komarov in a pain in the ass role

i don't think Randy's going to break up JVR-Kessel, but i wonder if this would do well with a new year beginning?

JVR-Kadri-Clarkson

6 hours, 33 minutes ago on Toronto Maple Leafs sign Daniel Winnik to a one-year deal

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making lines on CAPGEEK is like a Rush Hour puzzle now

6 hours, 36 minutes ago on Toronto Maple Leafs sign Daniel Winnik to a one-year deal

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@maximus_asinus

probably right.

i also think he's going to be a nice surprise.

6 hours, 43 minutes ago on Toronto Maple Leafs sign Daniel Winnik to a one-year deal

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@TheCanucksnaphook

we'll sign him when he's a UFA again to a "Leafs bottom 6 deal", no worries

6 hours, 44 minutes ago on Toronto Maple Leafs sign Daniel Winnik to a one-year deal

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@docmma

you're going to wear out the defense ... what if you were to incorporate a defensive forward or two into the back side?

Kessel

Bozak

Gardiner-Komarov-Rielly

or

Lupul

Kadri

Santa-Phanuef-Winnik

6 hours, 49 minutes ago on Toronto Maple Leafs sign Daniel Winnik to a one-year deal

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@loomx 

it's important to remember the worst could happen.  thanks.  lol

6 hours, 52 minutes ago on Toronto Maple Leafs sign Daniel Winnik to a one-year deal

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JVR-Bozak-Kessel

Lupul-Kadri-Clarkson

Winnik-Santorelli-Booth

Komarov-___-___

Ashton, Bodie, Frattin, Holland, Kontiola, Orr, Smith

not saying those are the line, but i suspect those are my safe picks for who has a job prior to tryouts...based on NHL experience and history.

Ashton and Holland might still have a fair crack when i look at it this way

6 hours, 52 minutes ago on Toronto Maple Leafs sign Daniel Winnik to a one-year deal

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@LeafsGuru

he's Colbourne 2014

6 hours, 57 minutes ago on Toronto Maple Leafs sign Daniel Winnik to a one-year deal

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@docmma

haha

so a 1-2-1-3 with no goalie now?

6 hours, 57 minutes ago on Toronto Maple Leafs sign Daniel Winnik to a one-year deal

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@loomx

isn't that a safer assumption than that they don't?

Kontiola, Ashton and Holland are the new guys to the NHL wouldn't you say?

7 hours ago on Toronto Maple Leafs sign Daniel Winnik to a one-year deal

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@TheCanucksnaphook

as real as your bacon eh

7 hours, 2 minutes ago on Toronto Maple Leafs sign Daniel Winnik to a one-year deal

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@TheCanucksnaphook 

amazing you're the first to say that...i've been biting my tongue.  everyone loves Shanny.

but we assume the other shoe will drop (aka trade)

7 hours, 3 minutes ago on Toronto Maple Leafs sign Daniel Winnik to a one-year deal

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After a training camp where neither player stands out, Ashton is dealt to the Preds for a conditional 4th round pick, and Holland is dealt to the Flames for a conditional 3rd.

7 hours, 5 minutes ago on Toronto Maple Leafs sign Daniel Winnik to a one-year deal

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@Ze_theLeafsFan

that's what i thought before you got my hopes up.

7 hours, 7 minutes ago on Toronto Maple Leafs sign Daniel Winnik to a one-year deal

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With 24 players signed, so many who are now centre/wingers, and only 5 D signed (one who's been traded once already this summer), and so many questions about Carlyle's system last year.

will we be the first to try a sweeper?

3-1-1

7 hours, 9 minutes ago on Toronto Maple Leafs sign Daniel Winnik to a one-year deal

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@colino17

24 players signed...only 5 are on D, and one was traded once already haha

7 hours, 13 minutes ago on Toronto Maple Leafs sign Daniel Winnik to a one-year deal

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so much for my Komarov-Kontiola-Hartikainen dream

7 hours, 14 minutes ago on Toronto Maple Leafs sign Daniel Winnik to a one-year deal

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@Xxxxxnew 

you keep saying it, i'll keep liking it

7 hours, 16 minutes ago on Toronto Maple Leafs sign Daniel Winnik to a one-year deal

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@wendelsway1

hmmm...trying to put my finger on it...

7 hours, 19 minutes ago on Toronto Maple Leafs sign Daniel Winnik to a one-year deal

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Carlyle getting lots of veteran bottom 6 players to manage, instead of having to turn to rookies for checking assignments.

with the defense shaping up as it is, this is almost a necessity.

7 hours, 20 minutes ago on Toronto Maple Leafs sign Daniel Winnik to a one-year deal

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@CanuckUKinToronto 

that's true.  been that way for a month.  but they still manage to be a favourite target.

7 hours, 23 minutes ago on Toronto Maple Leafs sign Daniel Winnik to a one-year deal

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@BlueSmoke

maybe

but Raymond was a good player when he was earning his contract with us.  then he became sparse as the year wore on.

these new guys...do they compete hard every night?  if so, i'm ok with them.

7 hours, 25 minutes ago on Toronto Maple Leafs sign Daniel Winnik to a one-year deal

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@MartyQuinn

we'll see what they can do if the goalies both get shitty

7 hours, 29 minutes ago on Toronto Maple Leafs sign Daniel Winnik to a one-year deal

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@Xxxxxnew 

haha, is that true?

7 hours, 33 minutes ago on Toronto Maple Leafs sign Daniel Winnik to a one-year deal

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@Hifi75 

i like all these players of the same mold, because the mold is determination and skill and flexability

7 hours, 40 minutes ago on Toronto Maple Leafs sign Daniel Winnik to a one-year deal

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@-Keon 

was that you who brought that up?  i think there were about 2 people here, barely able to respond.

7 hours, 43 minutes ago on Toronto Maple Leafs sign Daniel Winnik to a one-year deal

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if all these players on one year contracts have great years (like Raymond *cough* did) then Nonis is stupid if he doesn't trade them all at the deadline for picks and new assets.

even if we're the hottest team in the league and in a playoff spot, because Carlyle will forget how to coach when his goales inevitably get hurt.

we're so screwed with this depth.

7 hours, 44 minutes ago on Toronto Maple Leafs sign Daniel Winnik to a one-year deal

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is he one of the guys they tried on the top line last year with Perry and Getzlaf or is the highlight just a co-incidence?

i'm not up on my ANA trivia.

7 hours, 47 minutes ago on Toronto Maple Leafs sign Daniel Winnik to a one-year deal

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@drummond

no, they're following Raymond's example

7 hours, 50 minutes ago on Toronto Maple Leafs sign Daniel Winnik to a one-year deal

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learn from your mistakes.

last year Nonis had to make a trade for a centre early on.

this year he wasn't going to assume the Marlies, one year older, where any more prepared.

7 hours, 51 minutes ago on Toronto Maple Leafs sign Daniel Winnik to a one-year deal

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@colino17

i've seen pictures of him in a Coyotes uni too

7 hours, 53 minutes ago on Toronto Maple Leafs sign Daniel Winnik to a one-year deal

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@-Keon 

first game versus MTL we're dressing Ashton, Clarkson, Orr and Bodie

i think we're expecting suspensions.  the likes of which have never been seen before.

7 hours, 54 minutes ago on Toronto Maple Leafs sign Daniel Winnik to a one-year deal

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@Xxxxxnew 

the shifts that left an impression on me showed speed, good size, hitting and better hands than a 4th liner

8 hours, 7 minutes ago on Monday Mashup: Gardiner’s Up Next

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@The_Polish_Cannon

yup.  that was my next thought.  just like the Leafs this year to next, or at least what we hope happens.

even if we get some good performances from the free agents we've signed this off-season, the hope is some Marlies start coming up to fill the roles cheaply and effectively.  home grown.

8 hours, 8 minutes ago on Monday Mashup: Gardiner’s Up Next

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with all the rumours in the past about a "2nd hockey team in Toronto"

is it possible Shanahan misundertood what that means?

8 hours, 11 minutes ago on Monday Mashup: Gardiner’s Up Next

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@The_Polish_Cannon

yes.  but it came out early that ANA wasn't going to resign him.  i thought he played well for them when i saw him last year...assumed he was more important than it turns out.

so in his case, i've always wondered if there was something else to it, or if i just happened to see him play some of his better shifts.

8 hours, 13 minutes ago on Monday Mashup: Gardiner’s Up Next

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bad asset managment by VAN and ANA helps us sign free assets Robidas, Winnik, Santa and Booth

8 hours, 15 minutes ago on Monday Mashup: Gardiner’s Up Next

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@Greg Fenton

sarcasm, right?

8 hours, 17 minutes ago on Monday Mashup: Gardiner’s Up Next

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@sniperstar

it is curious that his former team didn't care to resign him, though.  i wonder what there is to that.

8 hours, 19 minutes ago on Monday Mashup: Gardiner’s Up Next

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@Burtonboy 

these are Dubas signings are they?  haha.  maybe.  just funny that everything's that simple suddenly.

8 hours, 20 minutes ago on Monday Mashup: Gardiner’s Up Next

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so, MLHS was wrong.  Gardiner was not up next.

8 hours, 21 minutes ago on Monday Mashup: Gardiner’s Up Next

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@Bruffins 

Winnik?

someone asked about him the other day.  why did you add him there?

never mind haha...LiveFyre scrolling...slowly appearing...thanks sniperster btw

8 hours, 24 minutes ago on Monday Mashup: Gardiner’s Up Next

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@Greg Fenton

what point?

"accept that Bozak's stats dropped when not playing with Kessel"

i have NO problem with that.  you're pretending that's what it's about.

8 hours, 30 minutes ago on Monday Mashup: Gardiner’s Up Next

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@Greg Fenton

no, i refused to allow judgement until it was explained to me WHO he played with and WHAT were the circumstances.

YOU are the one who refuses to acknowledge the relevance of those things.

8 hours, 38 minutes ago on Monday Mashup: Gardiner’s Up Next

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@Cloud09

if that's the argument, then

- what line would a 4.25 million dollar centre play on?

- what would his point totals be expected to be?

- how do we know he can or cannot achieve them?

8 hours, 39 minutes ago on Monday Mashup: Gardiner’s Up Next

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@vinoa

Kessel is totally the player on the line who makes it work.  for sure.

but Bozak has worked well there, where others haven't.  or, where we wouldn't know any better because there hasn't been enough of a smaple to judge fairly.

this all started with me saying Bozak is talented and doesn't seem to get enough respect in that regard

now here we are because Fenton has his running commentary one of his 3 goto topics

8 hours, 42 minutes ago on Monday Mashup: Gardiner’s Up Next

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@Greg Fenton

4 years from Bozak is enough to judge him, yes.

8 hours, 45 minutes ago on Monday Mashup: Gardiner’s Up Next

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@Greg Fenton

right, so go back to the start of the discussion to see who and where it changed.

8 hours, 46 minutes ago on Monday Mashup: Gardiner’s Up Next

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