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@MaxwellHowe I see Franson gone by Mar 2 , and Phaneuf gone in the summer . More than those two will go , and guys are pointing out how good it would be to do so before the draft and get a pick or two . It wont be easy as everyone wants to keep their picks .
9 hours, 22 minutes ago on Maple Leafs Rumours: Cody Franson, Mike Santorelli and Daniel Winnik “highly likely” to be traded (Bob McKenzie)
Some earlier comments on where Leafs are in the standings , and the possibility of dropping lower. It is very possible . As I look at the standings, it would take a lot , but it is POSSIBLE for the Leafs to sink down below all teams except Buffalo and Edmonton. Not likely , but possible .
9 hours, 27 minutes ago on Maple Leafs Rumours: Cody Franson, Mike Santorelli and Daniel Winnik “highly likely” to be traded (Bob McKenzie)
I have been waiting for MLHS to do a write up on most likely Leafs to be traded, so , thanks Alec....good job. As I read the first paragraph , what screamed out was how badly Nonis has mauled things in terms of getting any return for assets. On that basis alone, Dave needs to be run out of town ...never mind some of the contracts he has handed out . And yes, he can be cut some slack last year because the team was possibly , maybe , within gunshot distance of a playoff spot (most of us didn't think so, but Nonis also was trying to defend his team , his signings) . As Alec points out , there can be no excuses this year...we are out of it , and there is lots of time to make the right moves before Mar 2nd . It is ironic , though , and kind of sad , that guys like Winnik and Santorelli , maybe Booth , are the ones who will have to go , when in fairness, they have done what was asked of them. Not so for some of the more prominent Leafs . Whole lotta cleanup to be done here .....some before Mar 2 , and some this summer. My guess is that there is every bit as much chance that Nonis is given the door , as anyone on the team . He is not an unlikable guy , like say , Brian Burke. It's just that his time has come.
9 hours, 32 minutes ago on Maple Leafs Rumours: Cody Franson, Mike Santorelli and Daniel Winnik “highly likely” to be traded (Bob McKenzie)
Was hoping for a three point game in Ottawa last night , but all in all , the teams around us are making ground, and so our positioning is getting better every game. It is 1000% clear that we need to be sellers , and if our management play their cards right, we should be able to move out some decent players in return for prospects and picks . In Leaf management , we trust . Well , not really , but even JFJ could make a decent swap if he were still here . And , who are all these people who are "listening" ??
1 day, 9 hours ago on Game 50 Scoring Chances: Coyotes 3 vs. Maple Leafs 1
@Mitch_S2 that's a creative thought . Still , if Semin is a bust here , too , you may bury him with the Marlies, but doesn't most of his salary still count against the cap ???? Richards does for LA ....
1 day, 21 hours ago on GDT: Game #50, Arizona Coyotes at Toronto Maple Leafs (7:30 p.m., TSN4)
Wonder how it must feel to be a Leaf , fully knowing that Leaf Nation are praying they lose every game ? As a player, do you dig in and say, we will show them , or do you say, cripes, there's a million guys out there who are Leaf fans, and they want us to tank ???? Ok , then , lets mail in the two points. If you have a captain who everyone rallies behind, you are ok. Oh oh .....
I just read that the Leafs still have two million on the books for Gleason , whom they traded or bought out ...cant remember. Anyway , if this team isn't right at the cap ...with several more years of cap ache to deal with , I miss my guess. A "rebuild vision" is terminology that has not yet entered into Nonis' vocabulary. Could we be any more screwed ? I know we think we can move some overpaid guys and ease the cap ache , but that might be a large/near impossible order . And if Nonis has any say , the process is even slower. He signed these guys , and even if it is posturing, he has to still want to believe in them , hence over valuing them , hence , making it harder to actually move forward on a trade(s) . Geez, we need to pray we sink to a #5 or 6 draft position . Dave gotta go .
2 days, 6 hours ago on Game 49 Scoring Chances: Devils 2 vs. Maple Leafs 1 (SO)
Dreger says the Leafs have not decided if they are going to be buyers or sellers at the trade deadline. Are you F....ing kidding me ? Seriously, is there one person out there who feels the Leafs should be buyers in the next month ? Anyone ??????
3 days, 5 hours ago on Wednesday Mashup: Back At It vs. Devils
You have to think the Leafs chances of finishing bottom ten have just improved. Like him or hate him, Phaneuf eats a lot of minutes , plays vs tough lines , yes, makes some bonehead mistakes , but also does some good stuff. I say we are worse without him in there (Hurray for the tank!) . Course, I have been wrong before....and these are, after all , the bloody Leafs .
4 days, 23 hours ago on Monday Mashup: Perennial All Star
@Bruffins @leafmealone ooooh.....
@Cameron19 @HeatherRickAkin I will give you this Cameron....you are loyal if nothing else. I agree that there isn't much passion on this team at the moment , and it isn't for lack of trying that Phaneuf screws up . He likely would play better in a better situation (that may be so for most of them ) . For me, Dion's time , like Nonis' , has come and gone in Toronto . I think, like Kessel , he is tradable . So , if the right opportunity arises, either prior to March 2, or in the summer, some significant guys need to move on .
1 week, 1 day ago on Leafs Notebook – January 22
You need to either can Nonis , or if you keep him , he cannot be part of the decision making process regarding trades . He made this mess, and when you listen to him , he is clear in saying he believes in this group . He is alone . He would over value the guys you could trade , end up keeping them , with his " we can sign them in the summer" approach , and end up with them walking , and the Leafs get squat for return . I don't know what they do with this team , but Nonis has had his shot , and he has missed by a country mile . I would like to see Phaneuf play with .... someone somewhere else . My gosh , could he set a worse example as a team captain , and he was at it again last night . He may have ten decent shifts in a row, but when he goes haywire , he goes total blowout . Embarassing, really .
While I appreciate all the work that goes into compiling stats so we can have a closer look at what a player does on the ice, it is too intricate for me, so I will go by what my eyes tell me, mostly . First off....perfect game for Leaf fans . Leafs lost , so, good for draft purposes, and at the end of the game, they were running Ottawa out of the rink, so, an exciting finish . Poor Phaneuf....what an embarrassment he is. He "fights" a guy who couldn't punch out his own mother, then sucker punches the guy several times when he (Michalek) is on his knees. Not good enough ? Later, the Leafs behind 3-2 , Phaneuf bales in his own zone to avoid contact, the Leafs lose possession, and the puck ends up in our net for the game winner. And how do you parade this guy out on the power player, game after game after game. Clarkson , another wunderkontract , has been useless, but , he has managed to chip in with a few goals, and realistically , if this guy can score 17-18 goals a year, and play hard like he did in Jersey, he isn't a total wipeout. Maybe it is crazy to think it, but I believe there may be a taker for this guy , even if we have to eat salary . He would be high on my must move list , as would most any Leaf (not the guys who have just started shaving) . So, another loss, as we stumble towards Marner, Strome or ....nah , not going there .
1 week, 2 days ago on Game 47 Scoring Chances: Senators 4 vs. Maple Leafs 3
@MaxwellHowe @HeatherRickAkin I'm in. Send a note to Shanny , and, as a courtesy , copy in Nonis.
1 week, 3 days ago on Wednesday Mashup: Tank Battles of Ontario
@MaxwellHowe @HeatherRickAkin you very well could be right , but MacT isn't much of a risk taker and seems paranoid to deal . I think it would be a good trade for both teams, as you present it.
@Yaknowwhat @HeatherRickAkin got it , but Marner, while small , isn't a cream puff , again , just from what I have read. Do you know different ? and I recognize we already have two small centres in Bozak and Kadri .
It is all about draft position now, so any trades should try to reap picks. I think we have a shot at Strome but the other high end centre who may be available is Marner . Marner is smallish , lightning fast and plays all three zones well, according to what I have read. Strome looks to be your #1 centre , size, skill , but not a great skater yet. Close call , and I would be happy with either. Can anyone compare the two ...ie if you have seen them play a few times ....
@MaxwellHowe yes, but would Edmonton throw two picks for Bernier ? Reimer is ok , and maybe Bibeau develops into a dandy NHLer . Also, someone mentioned a free agent goalie from the Toronto area ...O'Connor, or Connors or something, who may be a good signing if the Leafs can nab him .
@Mcost61 @HeatherRickAkin then you better pray for Dylan Strome ....
1 week, 3 days ago on Game 47 Scoring Chances: Hurricanes 4 vs. Maple Leafs 1
If and when we trade Kessel, we have to get over the idea that we need to get a return similar to what Boston got ...that was a fluke , and it happened because Burke grossly miscalculated how bad we were . To me, if you get one really good NHLer that brings things to the table that the Leafs need more than Phil's incredible ability to score, you may want to deal . I do not know what that would be. A centre like Duchene .... possibly a D man like young Jones in Nashville ? But to think we are going to get a boat load for Phil ...ain't gonna happen . I like Phil , but I still maintain this team has cap issues , thank to Nonis , and some of the badly spent money is not tradable . Phil is tradable ..ergo , it may happen.
Here's the really deflating thing .....it is not that we are pretty bad...we are . It is that at times we can be pretty good, and that has happened as recently as the 10-1-1 run we had earlier this season . Now , when we are "good" , it really is not sustainable , because we are outshot, outchanced, etc. , and our snipers and goalies hide how bad we really are. On the other side of the coin, there is no way we are nearly as inept as we seem to be at the moment. But somehow , we all need to pray that this group don't do something heroic and go on another 10-1-1- run , because that will screw our draft position . The Leafs redefine mediocrity, so I am nervous that we will somehow garner more wins than is good for us, and finish 10th or 12th from the bottom, thereby screwing our draft position. If the Leaf management group try to make moves to pull out of this death dive, the bunch of them need to be taken out back at dawn, and put on a slow boat to China. I think the odds that that Leafs will not go on a good win streak , or that management will not swing a trade to help the short term , are remote . That depresses me . We need to Oiler (yes, it can be used as a verb) in the worst way .
I just checked the standings and I tab us at #9 for draft pick . And, as HHT says, some teams below us have games in hand. The plan is working perfectly . Nonis...that incredibly sly dog. Who knew ???Most people think that old Dave is comatose .
1 week, 4 days ago on Game 47 Scoring Chances: Hurricanes 4 vs. Maple Leafs 1
@RememberSalming @HeatherRickAkin that's it. Strome might be attainable, and if he is , to me, it would be a no brainer .
1 week, 4 days ago on GDT: Game #47, Toronto Maple Leafs vs. Carolina Hurricanes (7:30pm, TSN4)
@RememberSalming @HeatherRickAkin that is what many believe needs to happen . But so far....nada ...and the clock continues to tick
The Canes are hot, the Leafs are not. For the love of God , let that continue, as Dylan Strome becomes more and more of a possibility. He is the true #1 centre that we do not have (sorry Naz) . We really really do not need a few totally meaningless wins over the next 35 games or so . Could that possibly be any clearer ?
If the Leaf brain trust were serious about getting better , this is a golden opportunity to sell off assets, and continue the downward spiral . If they do not grab this opportunity , it can only mean they are totally numb. Elevator going down: floor please ?
1 week, 6 days ago on Game 46 Scoring Chances: Blues 3 vs. Maple Leafs 0
@wiski wow , that is impressive, depressive. Music to my ears, though. This elevator must ...repeat , must ..head to the basement.
2 weeks ago on Friday Mashup: Slip Sliding Away
@Cameron19 @HeatherRickAkin geez, that isn't what I have been reading . Funny, at times you see where we have so many million to use, but then you read that they need to sign a bunch of players , and when it averages out, they are not really in a good place at all. Frankly , the whole cap thing is befuddling , and it must be tricky, given that Loiselle lost his job over it.
@Cameron19 @HeatherRickAkin who does ? You mean the Leafs ?
Just read a storeyline on Cody Franson and what he can expect to make in his next contract. Unless the Leafs clear a bad contract or two (what are the odds) , they have no cap room to resign Franson . They could , maybe should , move him for a return prior to March 2nd , given the Leafs rather difficult time with signing Franson to his last two contracts. And yet , I see Dave Nonis holding on to Franson with a death grip , and adhering to the mantra, we can sign him in the off season. And I also see Franson saying , no thanks , going elsewhere . Either that, or having Nonis over a barrel , and getting way way too much money for what he is worth . Now, what could possibly go wrong ?
Everyone has made fun of Garth Snow for years now. Hmmm...... Not so much anymore. They have built a darned fine team around Tavares , while the Leafs have spun their tires with the likes of .....name any seven ... trying to lead this bunch . Woe is us.
@sniperstar @HeatherRickAkin point well taken about hindsight....but, sniper, there is just way too much evidence to let give Nonis a hall pass , here. Sorry , he needs to be accountable for his decisions.
2 weeks, 2 days ago on Game Review: Game #44, Anaheim Ducks 4 vs. Toronto Maple Leafs 0
Robidas, Phaneuf , Clarkson, Bozak , and to a lesser extent, Reimer, Gardiner , and even Orr and McLellean . And just for fun, let's throw Carlyle into that group. Hmmm.....and Dave Nonis is still GM ????? Go figure. How long would Nonis be out of work once he gets canned in Toronto ? A long while, unless Burke hires him . Now in fairness, Nonis has made some much smaller moves that have been ok , but then he negates it all with ludicrous signings , and further, he lets Raymond walk , gets nothing back. Kulie walks, no return. Grabo ? No return , and we are still paying him ? This folks, is not pretty, and will handcuff Nonis' replacement for quite a while.
@Burtonboy Ya, I'd say we are pucked .... cold enough out there in Burton, BB ? We are on the Nashwaak in Marysville , and the little river is mostly ice. Ice cold....just like our boys at the moment.
The proof is in the pudding . No matter what type of game our group adopts , they simply are not good enough . To their credit , and Horachek's , they are making an effort to play tighter hockey , and yes, injuries and an impossible schedule are also factoring in . Still , I see the slide continuing , and soon it will be abundantly clear that we will not make the playoffs. That much may be clear right now . There will be a drive to clean things up , and before March 2 , I suspect someone , maybe more than one , of the present roster will be moved . It will be difficult , though , because there are several key players here who you want to ship out (we all know who they are) , but their ludicrous contracts make that a daunting task . Unfortunately , I think they will have to buy a couple guys out, which really hurts the team going forward. And as we free fall , let the talk of draft position take centre court.
Thanks, Anthony . Fine effort .
2 weeks, 3 days ago on Leafs Notebook – January 13
As I check the standings , there are eleven teams with fewer points than the Leafs , but I believe about four, maybe five , of those squads will pass the Leafs in the standings. So, if my guess is right, we will pick at #8 again this year . With the draft being pretty deep for the first twenty or thirty players, the Leafs should be able to draft a pretty good 18 year old . The team seems to be playing a more competitive style at the moment , but I wonder if that commitment will last , or do they revert to pond hockey again ? History says they will get lax again . If so, I would guess we will have a top ten draft pick ....maybe even better . In the meantime, you have to believe that there will be a few roster changes prior to the trade deadline .
2 weeks, 4 days ago on Game Review: Game #43, Los Angeles Kings 2 vs. Toronto Maple Leafs 0
Just wondering if Evan Dorey is related to the Leaf defenceman from the past, Jim Dorey ? On another note, I just read that there is a rumour of a Leaf / Edmonton trade ....Yakupov and Ferrence for Gardiner and Ashton ? Also read that Ashton had been sent to the Marlies and has cleared waivers , so , not sure that rumour has any substance. For what it is worth, if I am Nonis , I would make that trade in a heart beat .
2 weeks, 5 days ago on Leafs Scoring Chance Tracking – Halfway point
Last nights win was a beauty ....and I missed the first period . At 4-1 to start the second period , my Leaf mentality said, can we hold on by our fingernails and get a win . Pleasant surprise ....the boys played a great 2nd and 3rd , and shut down a pretty decent Columbus crew . Well done indeed. There's more .... I was curious about Dylan Strome, who is 17, 6'3'' , and 183 lb. , and looks like a kid who can become a first line centre in the NHL . He will likely be drafted around #6-8 overall . There's more. I checked a couple of mock draft lists for 2015 , and lo and behold , in one list, of the top 12 picks, there are 8 centres. In the second list, there are 6 . While it is nice to see the Leafs do well , I just hope they don't play themselves just out of range of the top ten picks . Especially this year when the quality of the draft is sky high , the timing is perfect for the Leafs to draft what may be a high end centre with their first round pick . I am conflicted , but if I have a chance to draft Dylan Strome , or finish mid pack , and maybe get a playoff round .... nope , not conflicted at all. I go Strome.
3 weeks ago on Game Review: Game #43, Toronto Maple Leafs 5 vs. Columbus Blue Jackets 2
I think HHT stated it isn't in our best interest to play .500 hockey down the stretch, but to tank and draft Strome . This is my paraphrasal of HHTs words...hope I got it right. Really , I don't know how much this group, as it is presently constructed , has to actually "tank" . The chemistry of the team is so conducive to defensive leaks, you know they are going to happen, and happen a lot . Only great goaltending , which we get a fair amount of the time, will win us many games. And, as we head deep into the schedule , everyone picks it up a notch , so games are often won by the most passionate team of the night. How often do you see our guys winning when the going gets tougher and nastier ? Recent history suggests not so much. With all the offensive talent the Leafs have, we will see them just flying some nights, and people will ask how come they cant do it more often. It just isn't in their collective nature to go out there night after night, and want it more than the other team. That is just the way it is.
3 weeks, 1 day ago on Thursday Mashup: No miracle fix in Horachek’s first game
@Cameron19 @HeatherRickAkin I'm back . And yes, Polak isn't a real smart D man . If he were smart , with the way he skates (pretty good for a big man), and his streak of mean, he would be in demand. But, St Loo traded him for a reason . I think he sees himself as more gifted then he is. He is a risk taker , and not a great one at that. But, every one of our D have been exposed this year in untimely pinches ...eg Morgan Reilly last night . And some of this seemingly bad play by our defence is likely a result , often, of a group of forwards who do not commit to coming back hard enough. It just seems that we have a fairly gifted offensive team who are more often then not , in trouble because they play such lousy defence, collectively.
@Cameron19 @HeatherRickAkin you are right, sir ...but he plays harder deep in our zone than anybody else . And with the cycle game that rules the NHL , you need that.
Wow ...could there be any more poop hitting the fan than when a team member ..Polak ...states that some guys just want to play offence. He is right of course, but I wonder how popular he is for saying that . He walks the walk , though . Look at last night and coming back to play with his face ripped open . He may not be as skilled as some guys, but he plays real tough in his own zone ....much tougher than our seven million dollar defenceman . And there is more. JS Giguere , who is pretty well respected , has just stated that some of the Leafs (when JS was here) would not buy into the systems the coach wanted them to adopt . Could the flames possibly get any higher ? All this of course is an iron clad indicator that this team needs a serious re shuffle . Carlyle bad ....Nonis worse.
More whining and moping ...from me . OK, Carlyle is gone , so that is part of the problem removed. But , geez, where to go from here ? You have to think that going into last night's tilt vs Washington , the Leafs would put their best foot forward . I believe the effort was there , as even The Thrill looked like he was making some awkward attempts to backcheck (yikes) . Anyway , battered, bruised , shortstaffed , they got whumped , by an improving Cap team . The Leafs are also a "cap" team , but that aint good . If you can Carlyle , it seems to me you need to can Nonis too . Dave is the guy who signed the players (or most of them) , so he believes in them , and he says that daily . Now GMs say things every day that are flat out lies , but in this case, I think Nonis really feels that the likes of Phaneuf, Kessel, JVR, Bozak , and maybe even Clarkson and Robidas (just kidding on those last two) can actually lead this team . WRONG !!!!!! We see evidence of the non leadership every night , and while the unheralded foot soldiers like Komorov, Santorelli, Winnick do what they are expected to do , they do not lead the charge. So , if your leaders cant lead , you need new leaders . And Nonis is reluctant to admit that . Of course he is, he chose 'em . Dave gotta go ....followed by the new age Muskoka Five , or six . Whatever. I am not saying those guys don't have value ....they do . But they can be traded , and except fpr Clarkson , you would get a return . How much return ? Don't know . Just know that this team will not win as it is and cap considerations dictate that changes are totally necessary .
3 weeks, 2 days ago on Randy Carlyle Firing: What Changes Moving Forward?
In four on four hockey . OMG , that is all you would have to read in this story to know that author has to be Anthony . You are, Anthony , not an over the top writer , and a fine one at that. But if there has been anything in your offerings on this site, whether it is your notebooks , or otherwise ...it is your clear bewilderment at some of the stuff that the ex coach did . I am pretty sure that if Maple Leaf Sports etc etc , were a few bucks short when they had to ante up for Randy's train ticket outa town , Anthony would have been there to make up the difference. I am not implying that Anthony feels that Carlyle is the reason the Leafs stink (there is a lot more to it than questionable coaching) , but , fair to say , AP , and many of us are relieved at the decision to dismiss Carlyle . Yah , Randy is an ok guy , but it had to start somewhere . If I were Dave Nonis , I wouldn't be sleeping too well these days, either .
Mitch had a great question as to do you trade The Thrill for Matt Duchene . Someone , forgive me for not checking on who , wrote that, yes, you do make that trade, because the Leafs have a Kessle clone coming to town , in William Nylander. That is true in many senses . And maybe you don't trade Phil for Duchene if the Leafs are a contender ....but they are far from that . With Duchene and Kadri , you would seem to have a very nice One Two punch down the middle , and Bozie goes to #3 , or maybe gets traded and you have someone else at #3 ...Holland, or Gautheir , even Santorelli , whom AP likes at centre . Make no mistake though , if you trade Phil, the return must be high end . Such an interesting question involving two guys who are clearly offence first, on two teams who are poor defensively and both have poor possession stats and get outshot most nights.
3 weeks, 4 days ago on Leafs Notebook – January 5
@Potcy @HeatherRickAkin did I call Anthony Petrielli , "Andrew " ? Could be ....I've done worse ....
I do get tired of the Leafs uninspired play . I get tired of Carlyle continually relying on the "core" players in the hope that they will raise the level of their play and save the day . I get tired of Carlyle not trusting the lesser lights with more playing time , even though some of them are busting their asses out there . I do not get tired of reading the reports on this web site . They call a diamond a diamond, and they also call a dog turd a dog turd. I do not get tired of Anthony's questioning of coach Carlyle's decision making . It is evident that Anthony has had it up to here with Randy . So has everyone else, pal . I like what Kessel can do when he is on , and when the team is on a roll . Right now though , you have to shudder every time his line is on the ice (and yes, JVR and Bozie are also terrible at the moment) . And Randy's solution : more ice time for Phil , because, well , we all want to see more of those stretch passes .
Generally when the Leafs go into the toilet bowl , and you cant find Nonis ( and now Shanahan ), with a team of bloodhounds , we are gifted with some Marlie news. I think they are playing a bit better , and it looks like the kid goaltender , Bibeau , is handling the AHL very decently . Leivo and Percy , whom I consider top prospects, have had a dismal year....mostly due to injuries, I suspect. You have to love what Connor Brown is managing in his first crack at the pros. When you see guys like Biggs , who already have the big body , doing very little, it makes you appreciate a kid like Brown. Too much character for the big team, you say ? Ok , I will say it (along with many other Leaf followers) , the core of this team need to be removed , they couldn't lead a bumble bee to honey .
3 weeks, 5 days ago on Game 40 Scoring Chances: Jets 5 vs. Maple Leafs 1