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@Luke_R Nice, sooner this trade gets done, the sexier Roman Polak is going to be looking to all the GM's when "last call" arrives.

17 hours, 33 minutes ago on Pete Deboer on where it went wrong with David Clarkson

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@Jay31 @Luke_R I hope he goes so the Yotes so we can almost forget he exists.

17 hours, 34 minutes ago on Pete Deboer on where it went wrong with David Clarkson

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@Darth Burke @B_Leaf How much salary are the Leafs retaining? Cause that deal is never going to happen unless it's at least 2mil.

17 hours, 35 minutes ago on Pete Deboer on where it went wrong with David Clarkson

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@mtommy Maybe more of a Lupul. Much cheaper, age doesn't matter as they're  capable of winning as long as that contract will last. But I doubt either one, they need most of that cap space for internal matters.

17 hours, 38 minutes ago on Pete Deboer on where it went wrong with David Clarkson

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@Wilbur @Shafty With that nucleus, I think they're anticipating a window of several years in which they can compete with anyone for the Cup.

17 hours, 40 minutes ago on Pete Deboer on where it went wrong with David Clarkson

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@GibsonLPStudio Awesome. Haven't seen a ton of their games this year, but as a group, they really seem to be coming together. Best part is that we're actually playing mostly our own prospects rather than a bunch of perma-AHL pros.

1 day, 9 hours ago on Agent Pat Morris on David Clarkson trade

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@Marlies Man @leafmealone @Jay31 betamax actually. (**This joke intended only for those who are old enough to get it.**)

1 day, 9 hours ago on Agent Pat Morris on David Clarkson trade

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@GibsonLPStudio @leafmealone @Jay31 no biggie, just don't like having that trade look any worse than it already was. lol

1 day, 9 hours ago on Agent Pat Morris on David Clarkson trade

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@GibsonLPStudio @Jay31 Jordan Knight was the 2nd rounder from Kessel.

1 day, 9 hours ago on Agent Pat Morris on David Clarkson trade

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@Jay31 Live in London. Seen Marner live a lot over last couple years. Watch as many Knights games as I can either live or Rogers Cable (London plays the games as do some other cities).

1 day, 9 hours ago on Agent Pat Morris on David Clarkson trade

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@Jay31 Taping it.

1 day, 10 hours ago on Agent Pat Morris on David Clarkson trade

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@gilmourhalloffame meh, except for Chiarelli (who has no cap space or assets really) no other GM was under close to the pressure that Nonis was. Don't think he had a lot of other GM's trying to do him any favours. Considering that he got his guys moved, and got more or less exactly what he was asking for is to be commended. If people had unrealistic expectations based on what other team's are getting for different players, that's their problem.

1 day, 10 hours ago on Agent Pat Morris on David Clarkson trade

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@BrandonCheema Bozak is going to look more like a 2mil a year rather than a 4mil a year guy the second Kessel's off his wing.

1 day, 10 hours ago on Agent Pat Morris on David Clarkson trade

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@Beleaf67 This worries me that the Raps and Leafs are experiencing some kind of "freaky friday" thing. One team starts winning, and doing so by having it's big names score in the crucial moments, other team starts looking like a gong show. We need to find whatever kooky ancient artifact caused all this and get things back on the proper path to McDavid.

1 day, 10 hours ago on Agent Pat Morris on David Clarkson trade

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@hometeem @leafmealone @Jay31 it's why one can feel for the scouts. It's hard sometimes to see whether a Tyler Biggs is dominating from an early growth/development of size muscle or skill/will. 

1 day, 10 hours ago on Agent Pat Morris on David Clarkson trade

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@hometeem @leafmealone @Jay31 was it? either way, guys like Kypreos and Jamal Mayers were offensive threats coming out of the CHL. All kinds of guys are scorers at that level. Goals alone are not enough for me. I want to see that you have some ability to create your own offence, not just benefit from either being bigger and stronger, OR, playing on a powerhouse.

1 day, 10 hours ago on Agent Pat Morris on David Clarkson trade

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@WesternDP Nice, would be HUGE to get the young guys on that team some playoff experience, get them used to an environment where the playoffs are EXPECTED every year. Even if it's only at the AHL level, that experience-and the belief it can generate-will be crucial down the road.

1 day, 10 hours ago on Agent Pat Morris on David Clarkson trade

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@Jay31 @leafmealone Liepsic led the WHL in scoring two years ago. Lots of guys light up the CHL but just have that one nagging weakness that holds them back at the next level (speed, defensive inability, size, lazy, etc.).

1 day, 10 hours ago on Agent Pat Morris on David Clarkson trade

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@Jay31 @leafmealone Strome is undoubtedly playing on a stronger team than Marner though.

1 day, 10 hours ago on Agent Pat Morris on David Clarkson trade

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@BoneChompski @HHT @Yaknowwhat You're mistaken that's Keith Aulie back there. lol

1 day, 10 hours ago on Agent Pat Morris on David Clarkson trade

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@Jay31 @leafmealone Fair nuff. I have to agree that by the draft, there's no way a player gets into the top ten these days (video, analytics, more teams/scouts, etc.) without a good reason for it.

I certainly don't see Strome as the obvious bad choice that Grigorenko was seen to be.

1 day, 10 hours ago on Agent Pat Morris on David Clarkson trade

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@Jay31 Please don't misinterpret what I wrote below, I'd be happy to have him, just think that it makes the most sense to take the most talented player. If you're going to be rebuilding for a number of years, then don't rush to draft any player due to position. With patience, all of your needs will be met while also being the most talented option. 

1 day, 10 hours ago on Agent Pat Morris on David Clarkson trade

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@Yaknowwhat I'm even looking at what he was doing as a linemate. Like, he would just skate right at whatever teammate had the puck and basically stop next to him trying to get a pass. I'm like "what the f*ck is he thinking?"

1 day, 10 hours ago on Agent Pat Morris on David Clarkson trade

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Also, I see a little Strome vs. Marner debate below, not trying to take sides, but I'd point out that Marner is on a rebuilding Knights team (that traded two of it's best players just before the WJC) with a shaky D corps and two hot/cold unproven goalies. Despite this, he's leading the OHL in scoring. Strome has had to carry the load for 20 or so games without McDavid, but otherwise is facing the second tier of the opposition's checkers/defenders every night AND is still on a stacked Erie team chasing a title.

Strome might be an excellent NHL'er, but I think Marner is going to be a legit top line player no question.

1 day, 10 hours ago on Agent Pat Morris on David Clarkson trade

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I wish Clarkson all the best, but that guy was in some serious denial about what went wrong for him in Toronto and why. He's determined from everything I've heard him say to rationalize his poor performance, or marginalize any criticism altogether. He just won't own up to playing like crap. It's why I think that although he has a good chance to bounce back with CBJ, I'm leaning towards thinking he'll continue more or less where he left off in Toronto.

1 day, 10 hours ago on Agent Pat Morris on David Clarkson trade

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I wish Clarkson all the best, but that guy was in some serious denial about what went wrong for him in Toronto and why. He's determined from everything I've heard him say to rationalize his poor performance, or marginalize any criticism altogether. He just won't own up to playing like crap. It's why I think that although he has a good chance to bounce back with CBJ, I'm leaning towards thinking he'll continue more or less where he left off in Toronto.

1 day, 10 hours ago on Friday Mashup: It Really Happened

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CBJ trying to up their tank game. 

2 days, 11 hours ago on GDT: Game #61, Philadelphia Flyers at Toronto Maple Leafs (7:30 p.m., TSN)

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@Yaknowwhat I'd have to assume Atkinson/Bozak or something like that. The CBJ are shopping Atkinson, and the Leafs might like him as a young-ish piece to get back.

2 days, 11 hours ago on Leafs trade David Clarkson for Nathan Horton

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This is now tied with the day I checked the internet to find we'd flipped Blake and Toskala in one move and picked up Phaneuf for spare parts. Combined, those two moves trump this one, but this one is better than either of those individually (just cause of term alone).

2 days, 11 hours ago on Leafs trade David Clarkson for Nathan Horton

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@Anthony Petrielli Down Goes Brown FTW! Everytime.

2 days, 11 hours ago on Leafs trade David Clarkson for Nathan Horton

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@drummond @docmma I was thinking something similar with Vanek in Minny (good flip for Kessel at same time).

2 days, 12 hours ago on Leafs trade David Clarkson for Nathan Horton

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@Alec Brownscombe @leafmealone Bet they'll like it rather than the public embarassment of having to listen to a giant mistake referenced on their prime time hockey shows (radio and tv) for 5 more years. Quietly cutting a cheque and burying mistakes is total corporate modus operandi. Plus they get a massive PR boost in the midst of an equally massive dive in popularity/respectability. 

2 days, 12 hours ago on Leafs trade David Clarkson for Nathan Horton

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@Anthony Petrielli Yeah, cause his contract could have apparently been even worse. That would surely put him in a better position right now.

2 days, 12 hours ago on Leafs trade David Clarkson for Nathan Horton

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@.Kong. @hometeem $ is $ tho. Horton was uninsured, so not only was he never playing again, they were going to have to continue to eat his 5.5mil or whatever until 2020. CBJ couldn't really afford to do that. 

2 days, 12 hours ago on Leafs trade David Clarkson for Nathan Horton

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Nonis.......I am not worthy. Saved. Your. Job.  I personally view this as the universe making things even if we fail to land McDavid.

2 days, 12 hours ago on Leafs trade David Clarkson for Nathan Horton

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@Alec Brownscombe @udlbu But still overall better than what the Oilers ran the last few years?

3 days, 13 hours ago on Daniel Winnik Traded to Pittsburgh

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@North Kariya  @leafmealone @ProfessorRance @Sonic Wave Unbecoming? I love it. Googly eyes and the flapping "Canadian" head from South Park. Classic. 

3 days, 13 hours ago on Daniel Winnik Traded to Pittsburgh

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@HHT @BoneChompski @North Kariya  @Beleaf67 nope . needs more puckering.

3 days, 13 hours ago on Daniel Winnik Traded to Pittsburgh

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@North Kariya  @ProfessorRance @Sonic Wave You want his avatar? Apparently you've yet to see the gif of Jokinen eating a flying waffle.

3 days, 13 hours ago on Daniel Winnik Traded to Pittsburgh

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@Had Phaneuf of you Season's end. You aren't cutting paycheques anymore, you aren't retaining salary anymore. At least, this seems obvious to me, but I could certainly be wrong. I think it's just a player's rights that a team hold until July 1st (for purposes of negotiating a contract).

3 days, 13 hours ago on Daniel Winnik Traded to Pittsburgh

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@udlbu well put and very true

3 days, 13 hours ago on Daniel Winnik Traded to Pittsburgh

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@hometeem @leafmealone @ProfessorRance "little value"? I only suggested Parenteau as a salary dump on their end, the "value" was what I never specified. I was saying it's a deal that I can see working assuming that Montreal provides a decent enough piece on their end to "sweeten" things.

3 days, 13 hours ago on Daniel Winnik Traded to Pittsburgh

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@hometeem @ProfessorRance Not to mention that the more cap space we have, the more ability we have to take back (shortly expiring) bad contracts to get better returns in the rebuild. Let the crap returns play while the picks and prospects develop. 

3 days, 13 hours ago on Daniel Winnik Traded to Pittsburgh

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@hometeem @leafmealone @ProfessorRance Actually, I think there's a clear reason. He's not going to win you anything in three years. And he'll be decling and devalued if you wait and trade him as a pending ufa. His best value is now, so you flip him for assets that can actually be there contributing in 3 years rather than holding onto him for nothing. 

3 days, 13 hours ago on Daniel Winnik Traded to Pittsburgh

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@kxbarillas Could be this year's Rielly. Highly touted top 5 projected pick gets injured and most scouts have backed way off him. Just coming back, but starting to really produce. Could be a sleeper.

3 days, 13 hours ago on Daniel Winnik Traded to Pittsburgh

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@ProfessorRance @leafmealone Thanks? Not so sure, getting Lupul off the books will be important  before long, and considering that whatever return will be supplemented with whatever you can flip Parenteau for at the deadline next year. Which might be decent considering that he'll be likely to get decent playing time (likely PP) assuming that Kessel goes as well (no Kessel or Lupul will create some space). So, essentially showcase and flip.

3 days, 13 hours ago on Daniel Winnik Traded to Pittsburgh

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I'm trying to think as realistically as possible here...I'm thinking there's maybe a deal for Lupul with Montreal if the Leafs will take P.A. Parenteau back. Parenteau has only one year left and the Leafs need to have some NHL'ers on the ice to avoid having their youngsters shell-shocked. You don't care about putting him onto the ice while losing your way to a good draft pick, AND he still might get you something at the deadline anyway. Not to mention that you save a million bucks.


Meanwhile, Montreal gets an upgrade at the position and some stability for their current window with a little term (it's been repeated quite often of late that Bergevin would like to make "hockey deals" and avoid rentals). They only upgrade salary slightly 1.15mil, but replace a clogged contract/roster spot with exactly what they need scoring/size/dynamic energy/playoff experience.


It would all depend on what Montreal would give to sweeten the deal. Maybe it could get interesting if the Leafs ate the difference in salaries? 

3 days, 13 hours ago on Daniel Winnik Traded to Pittsburgh

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@Jay_Berg It's all about salary and how tight most of the contenders are to the cap. With Nonis eating half on Winnik, the Pens are getting a player a hit of 650k, and they could BARELY afford that (we even had to take back Sill to make it work).

3 days, 13 hours ago on Daniel Winnik Traded to Pittsburgh

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Ok, I think every hockey fan out there should appreciate this...also for fans of gopro....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-cARmC7Jdx0

3 days, 13 hours ago on Daniel Winnik Traded to Pittsburgh

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