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@hometeem We're trying to be contenders now? Temper your expectations people. This team is still at least couple years away from that kind of declaration. Not sure why people are unsatisfied being a bubble team. That's what we are, but there are no shortcuts to taking the next step. There are no magical three trades that will fix everything. And even if there were trades of that nature, the new players would be called out for all the same things the current ones are.
There's no shame in being a bubble team as long as you're trending in the right direction.
1 hour, 56 minutes ago on Game 33 Scoring Chances: Flyers 7 vs. Maple Leafs 4
@hometeem @Coldincowtown If Thornton ever gets traded, he won't get a valuable player like Bozak back in the package. He will choose his destination and the Sharks will get a much lesser player, a draft pick, and possibly a mid/low level prospect.
2 hours ago on Game 33 Scoring Chances: Flyers 7 vs. Maple Leafs 4
@Mcost61 After a 7-1 drubbing last night.
23 hours, 39 minutes ago on Saturday Mashup: Flyers tonight
@peterbleafs @Dogger lol, I somehow doubt it.
23 hours, 45 minutes ago on Saturday Mashup: Flyers tonight
@Dogger That is literally an analysis used for every star player in the league when things aren't going well.
@Xxxxxnew Schultz was a high second round pick who was highly regarded from the time he was 18. He's not at all like all the other guys on this list.
23 hours, 46 minutes ago on Saturday Mashup: Flyers tonight
@Dogger So...he's like every player in the league?
23 hours, 48 minutes ago on Saturday Mashup: Flyers tonight
Glad to see Carlyle switch up the lines. Also, pretty good coverage by TSN tonight. You sure do appreciate it more after hearing Romanuk and Millen, or Hughson and Simpson. Dutch is also a welcome relief for Duthie.
2 days, 19 hours ago on GDT: Game #32, Toronto Maple Leafs vs. Carolina Hurricanes (7 p.m., TSN4)
@Xxxxxnew I was saying yesterday though, that I think a lot of the scoring discrepancy comes from the lack of parity in the league. Is it possible that Dawes and Moses for example, play a lot of games against really shit teams? Because if the league were really just pure shit, you would think Malkin and Kovalchuk would just absolutely destroy it. But they were both only slightly better than they are in the NHL.
3 days, 2 hours ago on Thursday Mashup: Polak returning, Shooting for Seven
@B_Leaf @DeclanK Unfortunately, his weaknesses include playing in the NHL once the league isn't overweight and out of shape after a four month lockout.
@Burtonboy @Cameron19 So he's being put on waivers for the purpose of being signed to an NHL deal
@dlb, just dlb After Robidas and Polak both came out at the start of the season and said they hated playing the left side and think it makes no sense?
3 days, 3 hours ago on Thursday Mashup: Polak returning, Shooting for Seven
@Burtonboy I don't think that's Mark Fraser. There's no Fraser listed on the NJ Devils roster: http://capgeek.com/devils
@traNsplantEdneWfie @Yaknowwhat There are many buildings around the league where the Leaf fans are louder than they are at the ACC.
3 days, 7 hours ago on Thursday Mashup: Polak returning, Shooting for Seven
@Yaknowwhat @Cameron19 And the last stretch wasn't? And the one that follows won't be? I get what you're saying, but I just don't see the need to pretend every set of games is make or break. The Leafs are a good road team, and they get a 4 day break back home in Toronto in the middle of the road trip. They will be fine.
@Yaknowwhat We literally say that about every 4 week stretch.
@B_Leaf There's no doubt that scheduling was very much on purpose.
@dlb, just dlb @Cameron19 He had no answers for why his swarm wasn't working, either. He couldn't come up with one scheme to help the team escape the defensive zone easier. He had nothing.
4 days, 2 hours ago on Game Review: Game #31, Maple Leafs 6 vs. Anaheim Ducks 2
@dlb, just dlb @Cameron19 Of course he would have. Babcock is quite favorable to young players - especially in favor of goons. This year it's come out that much of the disagreement between he and Holland is over how soon young players are ready. He thinks they should be playing sooner.
@dlb, just dlb @Cameron19 Oh yea, I wouldn't take anything away from what he's provided in the room and off-ice. I was merely commenting on his play to start the year. Until the last little while, he's been no different than Gleason or Liles in terms of mistakes per game. I expected him to improve, like most, but there's no denying he wasn't terribly helpful out of the gate.
@dlb, just dlb @Cameron19 No doubt in mind they could, yea.
@B_Leaf @Cameron19 @Yaknowwhat Oh yea, Nonis really fucked up that previous off-season, there's no doubt. I just felt Carlyle had no answers, and refused to try anything different, and clearly had no idea how to get his group going. The roster wasn't great last year, but 9 out of 10 coaches could have still put a pin in that collapse better than Randy did.
@Yaknowwhat @Cameron19 @B_Leaf No, I think Robidas has been useless. The rest are great, but I was just pointing out we got by without 2 of them for the last 2-3 weeks, so clearly they weren't so important we couldn't expect to win without them. But you know what I mean anyways and are just being argumentative. There were absolutely ZERO posters on here who blamed just Carlyle for last year. Everyone suggested player additions and changes. I supported a Kessel trade for Christ's sake. So it's awfully flaky to pretend that the options were fire Carlyle and do nothing, or bring in different personnel.
At the end of the day, the proof is in the difference in the systems. We're using primarily what Horacek has established - yes, albeit with a slightly better roster.
@Yaknowwhat @B_Leaf @Cameron19 But literally NO ONE was ever suggesting that, so why would that be part of this discussion.
@B_Leaf @Cameron19 @Yaknowwhat No doubt...but just think where we'd be with a good coach, too.
@Yaknowwhat @Cameron19 @B_Leaf Robidas has really provided nothing. As much as I like Komarov and Polak, the team hasn't missed a beat without them. It's great that Santorelli and Winnik have been so good for us, but we pretty much expect that at this point. Every summer we sign good players.
@B_Leaf @Cameron19 @Yaknowwhat He has not won at both levels. And as I explained many times in the summer, the reason for lost puck battles was a terrible system. It was the first thing our new President addressed. Every change we've seen has been what Horacek did with the Panthers. Why is Randy getting credit for that?
@Yaknowwhat @Cameron19 @B_Leaf And he's made improvements, but he still does many questionable things, and most of what has changed for him has been Nonis and Shanahan removing the ropes he was strangling himself with.
I know the roster also improved, but he had Holland last year and didn't use him. He had options, as much as the "blame the players for everything" crowd hates to admit it because it might besmirch the good names of Orr and McLaren. He chose not to use his options, and clearly came to a head with Nonis on it on a few occasions.
I said in the summer that he kept his job because they're waiting for Babcock, and that hasn't changed.
@B_Leaf @Yaknowwhat Minus all the horrible coaching.
@Bruffins @Waiting4LSC @Yaknowwhat Or it's half-hearted praise that is really just an attempt to appear unbiased when they go on the rampage about him the next time he's slumping.
@Dogger Historically that's not true. It might have some merit this year, but Kessel has typically been a guy who almost exclusively scores meaningful goals. I would even argue his first goal last night was very important. The Ducks were really turning it on at that point.
4 days, 3 hours ago on Game Review: Game #31, Maple Leafs 6 vs. Anaheim Ducks 2
@Yaknowwhat He's still awful.
@Mind Bomb @Cameron19 @Yaknowwhat @Burtonboy Oh, I agree. I think it's incredibly hypocritical to legalize gambling and not marijuana for instance.
Even the most severe drugs should have a place within reasonable discussion, in my opinion. People are going to do them anyways. I'd ratther they get them from a trust worthy source and be put on programs to ween them off than have them destroying lives and giving money to criminals.
4 days, 4 hours ago on Game Review: Game #31, Maple Leafs 6 vs. Anaheim Ducks 2
@Yaknowwhat @Cameron19 @Mind Bomb @Burtonboy It really costs them pennies compared to what they spend elsewhere though. We spent 26B on a couple of planes that didn't work. We spent 2B on security for a conference. We spent 500M on advertising for the Conservative party over the last 3 years.
@Mind Bomb @Cameron19 @Yaknowwhat @Burtonboy Well, I would legalize just about everything and make sure the support was there for those that can't handle it. Ultimately, the proper support helps people become productive members of society again. You're paying for others no matter what - there is no way to avoid that. What can you can control though is how that money is used. I would rather it be used to put people back on track than to make me feel better about being a white middle class male with no real problems.
@Yaknowwhat @Cameron19 @DJBrianBurke @Burtonboy But they also make billions of dollars, and those problems would still exist regardless of whether they are controlling the industry or not. It's not like the States doesn't have all the same costs, it's just they don't see the same rate of return on the product in the first place, so the programming can't be as strong. Ultimately, they are much worse off for it, too.
People are going to drink, do drugs, and gamble no matter who makes money off it.
@Yaknowwhat @Mind Bomb @Burtonboy It's not hypocritical to me.. Most people can enjoy alcohol and recreational drugs and gambling without letting it control them. Some people can't. It only makes sense that those industries would put some of their profits towards helping the people they've inadvertently hurt.
@Yaknowwhat @DJBrianBurke @Cameron19 @Burtonboy The Nordic countries are doing really well, and they have more social programming than anyone in the world. It's world wide in countries that have governments which cater to the rich and let businesses run their country.
@Yaknowwhat @Cameron19 @DJBrianBurke @Burtonboy Umm, because they give enormous tax breaks to billion dollar oil companies who then put the money in off-shore banks and don't put any of their profits back into the economy.
@Yaknowwhat @DJBrianBurke @Burtonboy Ha, anti-drinking and gambling initiatives don't cost anything compared to the money they make in those industries. It's a fart in a hurricane.
@Burtonboy With the value of the money already being half of what it was once worth....yikes.
4 days, 5 hours ago on Game Review: Game #31, Maple Leafs 6 vs. Anaheim Ducks 2
@Burtonboy @Cameron19 @Yaknowwhat Must be something about the filthiness of a locker room atmosphere that is allowing it to spread so easily.
@Burtonboy @Yaknowwhat @Cameron19 Ah, that explains it. Slightly less reliable than a condom.
@Yaknowwhat @Cameron19 @Burtonboy When I was in high school we got a shot for Measles, Mumps and Rubella, and I'm the same age as all these players. One would think that would have been a nationwide medical prerogative.
@Yaknowwhat @Cameron19 @Burtonboy That's what my girlfriend keeps saying. We were all immunized in high school.
@Burtonboy This is getting ridiculous.
@Yaknowwhat Andersen is usually very strong. He just had a bad night
@Burtonboy Interesting that the team still values Ashton over Kozun.
@DJBrianBurke Different era though, too. The game isn't as open now as it was then. Very hard to look that elite offensively now. Consider how many players used to crack a hundred points. Now we get 1, maybe 2.
@Yaknowwhat @Cameron19 @B_Leaf @LyGuy @peterbleafs My plan for next year would have him with the Marlies. But man, those are going to be some strong call-up options next year:
I'm really hoping Biggs has a strong back half of this season and winds up in the call-up conversation next year.