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@Forever17 @Cameron19 @loomx Toronto fans/media seem to think they need to lose every trade they make. 

7 hours, 51 minutes ago on Friday Mashup: Chara out 4-6 weeks, Leafs play Boston Saturday

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@loomx @bear19 @Cameron19 I'm not all worked up, I just find it pathetic that the hockey media has no idea how trades work in the NHL. They are totally wrong about almost every trade that ever goes down. They always predict these insane values for players - and that doubles when the player is connected to the Leafs. Like how about some common sense from these guys for a change. Or at least if you're going to mention Bozak, convince me why he'd waive to go to Carolina. Such incomplete, garbage "journalism" - which isn't typical of Friedman. 

7 hours, 56 minutes ago on Friday Mashup: Chara out 4-6 weeks, Leafs play Boston Saturday

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@loomx @Cameron19 The purpose of comments like that is to stir up conversation about Kadri, who is an obvious lightning rod in Toronto. That's why his name is continually mentioned.These guys know when they drop his name they'll have a bunch of people who just don't like him supporting the notion of trading him - click bait or whatever you want to call it. 

7 hours, 58 minutes ago on Friday Mashup: Chara out 4-6 weeks, Leafs play Boston Saturday

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@loomx @bear19 @Cameron19 Even this comment assumes a level of control that they probably don't have. In the end, they likely won't be looking at a myriad of offers. They'll be talking to one team about a deal that makes sense and doesn't embarrass them, because Staal will be deciding how it all plays out. 

8 hours, 1 minute ago on Friday Mashup: Chara out 4-6 weeks, Leafs play Boston Saturday

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@Anthony Petrielli @bear19 @loomx @Cameron19 That's pretty fair. 

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Chiasson, 2nd

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Bonino, Sbisa, 1st, 3rd

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The thing is, it's really key to look at that second trade a little more closely than just how it looks on paper. The 1st was late, and for Anaheim, Sbisa was a salary dump. They probably included the 3rd in order to get VAN to take Sbisa. So saying we should give up a 1st isn't the same thing as Anaheim giving up an already known 1st. 

8 hours, 3 minutes ago on Friday Mashup: Chara out 4-6 weeks, Leafs play Boston Saturday

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@loomx @Cameron19 But I don't think any of this information is coming from the Canes. This is just the usual anti- Toronto speculation you get from the media; designed to stir up more negative commentary about the Leafs. I doubt this is like Gillis with Luongo, where there was a clear overvaluing by the GM. Luongo was willing to go anywhere to leave. If Staal leaves, he'll be doing it on his terms. It's like these media guys have never covered an NHL trade before. 

8 hours, 7 minutes ago on Friday Mashup: Chara out 4-6 weeks, Leafs play Boston Saturday

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Pretty disappointed in Friedman talking about Staal in relation to Bozak and Kadri. It's a joke to think the Canes could do better than a piece like Kadri coming back in a Staal trade, and Bozak isn't going to waive his NTC to go to Carolina. I guess hanging around the SNet morons is taking hold of him. 

8 hours, 19 minutes ago on Friday Mashup: Chara out 4-6 weeks, Leafs play Boston Saturday

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@wiski @ingy56 @Cameron19 @docmma @drummond I grew up thinking that Canada was the world's peacemaker. I thought we just went around to war torn areas and helped people get food and water and get their lives back to normal. Spending my adulthood learning that we've basically become America's deputy world police service is deeply saddening for me. And so with events like this one, I can't help but feel like so much emotion is misplaced.

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Instead of seeing Canadians get mad about ISIS, and support vamped up security measures and increased military involvement to "eradicate problems", I'd like to see us pushing for Canada to return to it's former role in the world - the one that was enviable and honorable. 

9 hours, 57 minutes ago on Friday Mashup: Chara out 4-6 weeks, Leafs play Boston Saturday

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@MaxwellHowe @Cameron19 @docmma @drummond @wiski I think it's both. I think this particular person was an unstable outcast. I think our policies abroad are VERY different than what Canadians generally think they are. We are war mongers right now. We oppress and hurt people. And we say it's okay because their values aren't as good as ours - often choosing to paint a whole region as one picture. Given this, repercussions are going to happen. We've spent the last 13 years at war, displacing more and more people, and then wondering why they're now "terrorists".

10 hours, 2 minutes ago on Friday Mashup: Chara out 4-6 weeks, Leafs play Boston Saturday

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@docmma @Cameron19 @drummond @wiski I mean, it's great that people come out and express concern over the loss of the soldier, but the real honor would be if they bothered to educate themselves on what's going on over in the Middle East and why our actions are potentially opening up Canadians to repercussions, and then from there demand appropriate policy changes. 

10 hours, 9 minutes ago on Friday Mashup: Chara out 4-6 weeks, Leafs play Boston Saturday

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@drummond @wiski Questioning the people who put these guys in harmful situations to begin with would be a start. 

10 hours, 15 minutes ago on Friday Mashup: Chara out 4-6 weeks, Leafs play Boston Saturday

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@LN-093 @Cameron19 @Mattmark That's because our leadership wants you to think it's different. 

10 hours, 40 minutes ago on Friday Mashup: Chara out 4-6 weeks, Leafs play Boston Saturday

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@LN-093 @Mattmark We're fine. There will always be nut jobs using some narrative to justify hurting people.

11 hours ago on Friday Mashup: Chara out 4-6 weeks, Leafs play Boston Saturday

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@MaxwellHowe Getting more ice time with the 2nd and 3rd lines, who are driving possession. Last year, he was mostly out there with McClement's line. 

13 hours, 9 minutes ago on Friday Mashup: Chara out 4-6 weeks, Leafs play Boston Saturday

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@DeclanK @Cameron19 @Black_Hawk I used to feel the same, but I think now that Percy has shown us a little bit of what he can do, I wouldn't hesitate. 

13 hours, 44 minutes ago on Friday Mashup: Chara out 4-6 weeks, Leafs play Boston Saturday

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@DeclanK @Black_Hawk  I think pretty clearly the Flyers are looking for defenders though. 

13 hours, 46 minutes ago on Friday Mashup: Chara out 4-6 weeks, Leafs play Boston Saturday

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@Burtonboy @Cameron19 @hometeem Yea, that's obviously ideal. Would rather deal Gardiner for O'Reilly and look at some other package for Staal. 

17 hours ago on Friday Mashup: Chara out 4-6 weeks, Leafs play Boston Saturday

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@ingy56 @Cameron19 @hometeem @Burtonboy Gardiner for Yakupov, Yakupov + Ashton for Staal - CAR retains 3M in salary. 



17 hours, 1 minute ago on Friday Mashup: Chara out 4-6 weeks, Leafs play Boston Saturday

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@Burtonboy @Cameron19 @hometeem Yea, if you're giving up two or three good assets though, and our team doesn't dramatically improve, and Staal just leaves next year - that to me would be a worst case scenario. Maybe it's not likely, but it's one that has to be considered.

17 hours, 3 minutes ago on Friday Mashup: Chara out 4-6 weeks, Leafs play Boston Saturday

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@ingy56 @Cameron19 @hometeem @Burtonboy Of course I think the other thing to consider is Aaron Ward's comment, which no one seems to want to pay any attention to. According to him, the ONLY team on Staal's list would be Toronto. Changes the negotiation entirely. 

17 hours, 4 minutes ago on Friday Mashup: Chara out 4-6 weeks, Leafs play Boston Saturday

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@MaxwellHowe @Cameron19 There absolutely is. You're using the beliefs of a culture that is only slightly behind ours to justify mass murder. 

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Imagine for a moment that from 1800-1975 there was a more developed area of the world watching North America figure out it's moral code. Should that fictional country have come in and decimated the Americas because of their shabby treatment of women and blacks? That's such an incredible cop out - like criticizing China for using coal or developing an auto-motive industry. 

17 hours, 6 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Bruins Saturday

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@ingy56 @hometeem @Burtonboy  Problem is, Staal isn't worth any packages that include those guys. Maybe Gardiner. 

17 hours, 9 minutes ago on Friday Mashup: Chara out 4-6 weeks, Leafs play Boston Saturday

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@Burtonboy @hometeem Still, I'd be so nervous about getting Staal here. If he doesn't fix a lot of our problems, that could be a very damaging move long term. 

17 hours, 10 minutes ago on Friday Mashup: Chara out 4-6 weeks, Leafs play Boston Saturday

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@Burtonboy @hometeem They kept 2M on Jokinen. 

17 hours, 14 minutes ago on Friday Mashup: Chara out 4-6 weeks, Leafs play Boston Saturday

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@MaxwellHowe @Cameron19 You know that we still oppress women and homosexuals in North America, right? Women still make far less than men. They are still sexualized and raped regularly while men go free and women are accused of "asking for it". Homosexuals are still denied jobs and still lack the same rights as heterosexuals in many places. Racism runs rampant here. Blacks were still lynched in the US well into the 60s and they still face police and court oppression. The US imprisons a greater portion of their populace than any country in the world.  In Canada, we invented a method of breaking a race so effective, that South Africa studied it in order to inflict it on their own aboriginals. 

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I don't know where anyone gets off trying to justify military attacks on innocent people based on a moral standpoint. 

17 hours, 18 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Bruins Saturday

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@MaxwellHowe @Cameron19 To sum it all up, I think this is how I feel: https://canadiandimension.com/articles/view/reflections-on-a-violent-day-in-ottawa

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Give that a read!

17 hours, 34 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Bruins Saturday

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@MaxwellHowe @Cameron19 But who is really to blame for all of that? Like I said below, it's not really their leaders. For the most part, the West is responsible for the devastation. Syria, Libya, Iraq - these places weren't overrun with these conditions before the US forced them to leave under fear of drone bombings and laser guided missiles for decades at a time. 

17 hours, 36 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Bruins Saturday

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@MaxwellHowe @Cameron19 And you think the Bible wasn't created to manipulate people? It was written over the 300 years proceeding the death of Jesus by a myriad of men seeking to control wealth, influence the masses and maintain class systems. Both are terrible pieces of fiction, and I don't really care to rank one as worse than the other, as I find it irrelevant.

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If people have clean drinking water, sanitary conditions, a happy family, purpose in life, and a chilled beer at the end of the day - they're not getting worked up into a suicide bombing frenzy. People that lack these things are the ones getting manipulated. There is a solution here, and as I said, we figured it out with Germany, but not since.  

17 hours, 44 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Bruins Saturday

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@Burtonboy @Cameron19 @dlb Mad @Ze_theLeafsFan Well it's a pattern that presents itself year after year. You know I'm not one to call the player's lazy or evaluate attitude from my couch - I hate when people do that. But time after time, year after year, we fail to win games we "should" win, against tired, or injured, or just bad teams. 

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An example? The first Florida road trip. It seems it almost always comes after a strong stretch of play and the players clearly treat it like a vacation. Fishing all day, relaxing on the beach - and we always get a couple of shit games against Tampa and Florida. 

17 hours, 50 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Bruins Saturday

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@MaxwellHowe @Cameron19 It can be, but doing so is pointless. In the cases of both religions, their use has nothing to do with the faith. Jesus didn't say anything about executing the gays, but there are countries saying the Bible told them to do that. Words can be twisted easily. 

17 hours, 53 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Bruins Saturday

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@Burtonboy @Cameron19 @dlb Mad @Ze_theLeafsFan Just feels that way. We always seem to get a poor effort when it looks like an easy win. Even gets this way when we play teams low in the standings after a couple games against good teams. 

17 hours, 56 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Bruins Saturday

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@MaxwellHowe @Cameron19 Christianity has slaughtered more innocent women and children than any other faith. There's zero point in bringing faith into the discussion. It has nothing to do with why these people are angry. It is merely a tool to direct their anger and excuse their violence. They're mad because they're impoverished and oppressed. It's no different than the Germans in the 20's and 30's. 

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And what you don't get is that you're tying Islam to a geopolitical region and assigning solutions that effect good and bad people as a result. This is what created the mess in the first place. If you stomp out a terrorist group by crippling a bunch of innocent people in the process, all you've succeeded in doing is creating a new generation of "terrorists". 

17 hours, 58 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Bruins Saturday

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@dlb Mad @Ze_theLeafsFan Our team mentality seems to be that playing hurt teams will be an easy win. I much prefer to play a healthy team. 

18 hours, 2 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Bruins Saturday

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@MaxwellHowe @Cameron19 @peterbleafs @Burtonboy   It's recent history that saw Syria, Libya and Iraq crushed by Western forces. These were thriving, developed areas. People who were doctors and teachers and highly educated tradespeople saw their lives destroyed over night. They went from earning a good living to scrounging for insects to eat and drinking dirty water, and cowering as US air raids continued to threaten their children. The West was the benefactor of all that, and we excused it all away because there were a few crazies over there. And the narrative continues...clearly. 

18 hours, 3 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Bruins Saturday

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@MaxwellHowe @Cameron19 Sorry man, we're going to have to stop the conversation. I find your comments regarding the Koran to be highly offensive to the millions and millions of peaceful Muslims living all over the world. Also, incredibly hypocritical given all the war mongering done in the name of Jesus Christ. It's clear you've made up your mind about an entire group of people based on the actions of a few. Back to hockey. 

18 hours, 5 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Bruins Saturday

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@JWaterdrager @Mcost61 @Cameron19 @MaxwellHowe @peterbleafs @Burtonboy It has nothing to do with religion. That is just a tool that their leaders use to rile masses of people because it works. If you could go back in time and switch whatever historical ripple caused that faith to become prevalent in that region, and swap it for Christianity, you'd best believe the leaders there today would be finding quotes in the Bible to achieve the same ends. 

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It's all about oppression. If you cripple a people and back them into a corner, they're easily molded by insane leaders. We've seen this in history time and time again. World War 2 doesn't happen if not for the insane oppression inflicted on the Germans after WW1, which created the atmosphere necessary for Hitler to rise. It's the same thing in the Middle East, but we just never learn our lesson. 

18 hours, 15 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Bruins Saturday

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@Bring the Cup Home @Cameron19 @MaxwellHowe @peterbleafs @Burtonboy Most of these incidents have come from ISIS sympathizers - not people living in the Middle East, actually working actively with ISIS. You think ISIS has any clue who these two random Canadian nut jobs are? 

18 hours, 19 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Bruins Saturday

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@MaxwellHowe @Cameron19 @peterbleafs @Burtonboy You might want to ask yourself the same question, but with a little historical background. The motives aren't altruistic, but they aren't whimsical either. They're the direct response to oppression. Obviously no sane person could defend the way they're going about it. 

18 hours, 21 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Bruins Saturday

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@MaxwellHowe @Cameron19 @Mcost61 @peterbleafs @Burtonboy How can Canadians lift a finger? Well they could care, for starters. It hardly even registered with our media. I had to seek out foreign news services online to figure out what was happening. It's hypocritical of Canadians to get so worked up about the way ISIS treats women now that a guy with an ISIS scarf has killed a Canadian man, when none of that hysteria was present for a far more atrocious international crime. 

18 hours, 28 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Bruins Saturday

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@MaxwellHowe @Cameron19 @peterbleafs @Burtonboy Ha, no, it's far too Canadian to continue to tout this false Canadian mythology about us being an innocent country that's done no wrong, shocked that there are reprisals after years of inflicting hardships on people far away from us. It's a joke. We've been at war for 13 years now. We're America's lapdog. Of course there are going to be people that don't like us - that want to hurt us. Does it make their actions okay? No, of course not. But we need to understand that their hate isn't just born out of some radical ideas - it's from generations of Western oppression. 

18 hours, 30 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Bruins Saturday

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@MaxwellHowe @Cameron19 @peterbleafs @Burtonboy Good question - why don't we spend some time thinking about the answer to that question instead of worrying about who we can dump where?

18 hours, 35 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Bruins Saturday

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@MaxwellHowe @Cameron19 @peterbleafs @Burtonboy That doesn't make them connected to ISIS - it makes them deranged, ill people. As Canadians, we should look to see what we can learn from this, rather than who we can blame and attack. What is going on that leads some of our own Canadian people to seek out that attachment?  Why do they sympathize with such a violent group? Is it possible we still aren't doing a good enough job to address mental illness? What about our culture is fostering this? These are the questions that will help you find solutions.

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One thing I took from it immediately was how fortunate we are to live in a country with strict gun control. This guy's aim was get a weapon and kill people. All he could find was an old hunting rifle, and he successfully killed one person. Still very sad of course, but really, if his plan was to kill people, it couldn't have been much less successful. Minors in the U.S. literally do a better job on a semi-monthly basis. 

18 hours, 38 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Bruins Saturday

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@Mcost61 @Cameron19 @peterbleafs @MaxwellHowe @Burtonboy Ding Ding Ding! Oil you say? 300 women kidnapped - Canadians don't lift a finger. A single white soldier is killed by another Canadian, and well, you know...

18 hours, 44 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Bruins Saturday

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@MaxwellHowe @Cameron19 @peterbleafs @Burtonboy Yea, do you hear me defending any of that? 

18 hours, 48 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Bruins Saturday

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@MaxwellHowe @Cameron19 @peterbleafs @Burtonboy Well, there's no identified organization that killed the soldier, either, yet you're all gung-ho for that. 

18 hours, 48 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Bruins Saturday

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@peterbleafs @MaxwellHowe @Burtonboy The best thing we could do is carry on with our lives and stop pretending this is the big deal everyone seems to want to make it out to be. Hundreds of Aboriginal women are murdered and go missing every year. On Wednesday, in Winnipeg, police found 6 dead babies in a storage locker. I understand it's incredibly sad that a solider was killed, but it was nothing more than the work of some deranged, mentally-ill person - and it should be treated as such. 

18 hours, 50 minutes ago on Thursday Mashup: Bruins Saturday

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