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@Yaknowwhat I'll have to analyze that and get back to you...
21 hours, 12 minutes ago on Saturday Mashup: All Star Weekend
i.e. A few of the teams on the list Kessel is willing to go to may not be in a playoff position. They aren't going to trade their first until the draft lottery is done.
2 days, 2 hours ago on Friday Mashup: Nylander set for Marlies debut tonight in Hamilton
I still think a Kessel and/or Dion deal happens around draft time.
@Dogger Gotta look forward...
@Whalz Agree. I think my point is simply that I doubt the Leafs see a potential elite player in Ritchie and ANH will likely have a low first rounder and ANH won't want to give a top young roster player (i.e. Lindholm) so I don't see it adding up.
@WB_222 @bear19 @LyGuy @Wilbur What if the Avs want Dion and Franson isn't signed and we do the deal and then Franson walks and a year and a half from now ROR walks as well. My head hurts...
@Whalz no need to lol. save your breath...
2 days, 3 hours ago on Friday Mashup: Nylander set for Marlies debut tonight in Hamilton
@Whalz I did not say he was or would be a bust. I said he has the potential to be a 1st round bust. I think there is a chance he won't live up to being a top 10 pick. Bust is probably the wrong word to use...
@WB_222 @LyGuy @Wilbur If the Leafs determine they want to trade Kessel and they get an offer that works then they'll trade him whether Dion is still here or not.
@LyGuy @Wilbur I think whether we should or not is debatable but we certainly don't have to at this point.
@LyGuy We don't have to move Kessel or Dion.
@WB_222 @Wilbur Yup…that sounds about right. Somewhere in that vicinity...
Of course, we have to consider the cap relief we would get as part of the trade in this day and age…I realize that.
@Whalz Yeah, but some teams just won't have what we're looking for or just won't ante up. Anaheim's first will be a low pick, Ritchie has the potential to be a bust etc…Not a team I see us trading Kessel to just because they have the cap space...
Leafs will not be trading Kessel unless they get a significant return. At a minimum the standard boiler plate will apply: top young roster player, top prospect, 1st rounder in 2015. And the return we got for Kaberle is no where close enough.
@wiski @Wilbur @lister 5 years into the 15 year plan currently...
@lister Suck for 5 years? So, be competitive in 10 years?
@LyGuy If you're a playoff bound team is he the kind of depth player you want? Is he better than someone in your system? If so, what would you give for him? I'd say they might be able to get a 5th - 6th rounder if the circumstances are right.
@Burtonboy Yeah, I've seen that as well. I know this is one of those Captain Obvious statements but puck skill is going to become more important in this system or a similar system. I also think this system is ultimately easier to deal with pucks unlike RC's system that used the boards so much. It's so hard to control a puck on the boards and then make a play. It's an extra step. You have to corral the puck off the boards, which gives the other team time, and then try and make a play. In this new era of hockey the primary reason for the boards is to stop players or the puck from going all the way down the St. Lawrence River :)
2 days, 10 hours ago on Friday Mashup: Nylander set for Marlies debut tonight in Hamilton
@Burtonboy This is what Pecry does better than Holzer...
@MaxwellHowe @TheLoovTrain Yup and I also think in Horachek's 5-5-5 system where he likes to break out through the middle they may be thinking Percy's outlet passing ability may fit the bill.
BTW…The talk of Santorelli going to the Rangers sounds very plausible but I also wouldn't be surprised to hear the Penquins call about him.
@Burtonboy @Cameron19 @colino17 They aren't going to give Kessel two cars. Will pick someone else...
@MaxwellHowe Maybe the players the Leafs want are on western teams :)
3 days, 6 hours ago on Game 47 Scoring Chances: Senators 4 vs. Maple Leafs 3
@Mcost61 Doesn't this make sense due to the week long all-star break?
3 days, 8 hours ago on Game 47 Scoring Chances: Senators 4 vs. Maple Leafs 3
The boys on Leafs Lunch just said there's an actual Vegas betting line for tonights game for how many Leafs jerseys will be tossed on the ice.
4 days, 5 hours ago on Wednesday Mashup: Tank Battles of Ontario
@Forever17 @Wilbur @philthethrill Yeah, I could see 3 years at 4 per as it buys the Leafs one year of UFA and gives Bernier a respectable salary. Bernier really doesn't have much leverage. Do not be shocked if Reimer isn't traded (if he is traded) until Bernier is signed.
@Forever17 @philthethrill I wouldn't be shocked if Bernier ends up signing a one year deal. Leafs won't want to give him 2 years as he'll be UFA then. Bernier won't want 4 - 5 years at 4 mill per. Wouldn't be shocked if he signs a one year "show me" deal.
@TorontoMapleLeafs @Wilbur Clarkson and McKegg to CAR for Semin...
4 days, 9 hours ago on Wednesday Mashup: Tank Battles of Ontario
Smile everyone…Alex Semin…3 more years after this year at 7 million per and he was a healthy scratch for CAR Monday night.
I can't believe for one second that Shanny is looking at this mess and believing we can contend in 2 - 3 years with a couple of moves. He must be seeing what we are seeing and realizing it's going to be 4 - 5 years. Which is why I think both Kessel and Dion will be going between now and draft day along with a bunch of others. Shit, the next GM (cause NoNo is out the door as well) ought to have to be figuring out how to get us up to the cap floor come summer...
5 days, 19 hours ago on GDT: Game #47, Toronto Maple Leafs vs. Carolina Hurricanes (7:30pm, TSN4)
@Cameron19 @Leafer I thought Dion had an excellent night. I don't believe for one second that we'd have to eat salary on a Dion trade or accept a crappy return. I think some people would be surprised (in a good way) at the return Dion would bring.
@Cameron19 @Leafer Honestly Cam, Shanny must be shitting himself watching those two.
@In it to Winnik @Wilbur It's coming. I think Phil is on his way out. I really do.
5 days, 20 hours ago on GDT: Game #47, Toronto Maple Leafs vs. Carolina Hurricanes (7:30pm, TSN4)
I really think Shanny is going to blow this up real good...
@Burtonboy @Wilbur I hear you my friend. I had to do the same at one point last year. Did me a world of good. I've been cheering for them since the '60s and will cheer for them to win every night. Always believe!!! Talk to you later.
1 week ago on Game 46 Scoring Chances: Blues 3 vs. Maple Leafs 0
@Burtonboy Don't quit on us BB ;)
@Top Jimmy Sorry Jimmy but we will never agree about that on this particular play. Bozak was very, very weak like he often is. Any good coach watching the film will certainly wish Bernier would have stopped that (as you say) but he'd be pointing out to Bozak how he could have prevented the shot altogether.
@Gord You're absolutely right Gord. I was thinking about Hitchcock's words earlier in the day about how hard work and checking lead to offense and goals and how sometimes players think they are really giving it until they are shown that they aren't and need to give more. Exactly what happened with Bozak there. Goalies were just fine on this trip.
Good morning everyone. I know there are a few folks that weren't happy with Bernier on the first goal. Yes, it was a little soft but backhanders (ask Sundin) can be deceiving. However, if you want to be really pissed, watch the game in 12 and watch what happens about 4 seconds prior to the goal at the half boards. The puck is coming up the wall, Shattenkirk is coming down the wall to pick it up and at moderate speed, Bozak is heading towards him. Bozak gets there with time to spare and within about one foot of Shattenkirk. What does Tyler choose to do? He turns to the offensive side of the puck (the blue line) and does a mini (but slow) fly by. Basically, the says…"here you go Mr. Shattenkirk, have a free ride to the slot". In other words, that goal was scored from the half boards. That play should have died there. THere is no freaking excuse for that. I sure as hell hope a coach sits down with Tyler and points this out and tells him if he wants to play in this league and win a championship that it sure as shit ain't happening with that type of play. Blame Bernier all you want (or Gardiner as some are doing) but that goal was on the forward, Bozak!!!
@Mcost61 A fine morning to you to sir….
1 week, 1 day ago on Friday Mashup: Slip Sliding Away
@Cameron19 @T K O Never trust Cam ;)
@Cameron19 @Wilbur @TheLoovTrain Gotta cut the head off the snake though...
@TheLoovTrain @Wilbur @Cameron19 Thanks Loov. I was just going to say is it due to the bonuses? Can we just fire Nonuts now? Please!
@Cameron19 @Wilbur Why not? What am I forgetting?
Burke philosophy…If you make a mistake, you fix it right away, you don't wait. --- Clarkson is a mistake…start calling around and see who will take him if you eat salary.
@Cameron19 @Knights2Leafs I don't know if wasting the year was the plan but Shanny certainly had to be very open to the idea when he decided to keep RC.
@TheLoovTrain @Wilbur Patience is a virtue :)
These certainly are interesting times in Leaf land. I'm very intrigued to see what Shanny et al will do between now and the draft weekend. I think they have a couple of legit directions they can head in -- burn it to the ground or retool but with some key players. It's hard being on the outside looking in and not knowing what truly might be available. In either case they need to stay the course with this change in how the team is playing.
@Leaf20000 Palmateer "The Popcorn Kid"...