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@ykendall87 @DavidLeBoeuf been here since '02 bro. Mash, BD, plastic man. I guess I just have higher standards for who hangs in our rafters
3 weeks ago on Of Course the Pelicans Will Not Retire Chris Paul’s Jersey
Chris Paul did what he did. If there was no benson, there would be NO team here. None. They would be In San Jose.
In the long run he made no true lasting impact. 1 playoff series win, no true influence on anything. He could have done whatever he did, if there was no benson, they'd be in damn San Jose.
Stop slurping him. He was a great player for a few years. Made good memories. Did good things. Left us Ina time of need. Blamed us for not winning and hadn't won anything since either.
@SportsPillowTlk All of those guys were either great players who were the some of the best players on championship teams (Erving, Drexler - also from houston and played basketball at the University of Houston), were very good players who had extended runs with those teams (Blackman, Vinnie Johnson), Were great players on teams that had unprecedented success including playoff runs and division titles (Chambers, Divac, Hardaway). The also ALL parted with their franchises on good terms and are universally loved by the teams fan bases.
CP3 comes close, especially to that last group. Two playoff appearances and one series win just doesn't move the needle for me, especially after just six seasons and his unceremonious departure. If his number is retired, then Larry Johnson and Alonzo Mourning should be retired. Similar timelines and success.
3 weeks, 1 day ago on Of Course the Pelicans Will Not Retire Chris Paul’s Jersey
@ykendall87 I never said he did nothing. I never said I hoped his knees gave out. You continue to put words in my mouth.
Julius Erving spent only 4 seasons w/ the Nets. He was a two time ABA MVP and led the Nets to two ABA CHAMPIONSHIPS and was a huge part of the reason why the Nets were absorbed into the NBA.
Rolondo Blackman spent 11 years w/ the Mavericks and was a 4 time All-Star.
Vinnie Johnson spent 11 years with the Pistons and was part of two NBA championship teams.
Tim Hardaway spent parts of 6 seasons with the Heat, leading them to four consecutive division titles and an Eastern Conference Finals appearance. He had 3 all star appearances and a 1st team all NBA selection while in Miami.
Clyde Drexler only spent 3 seasons in Houston. He was a 2x All Star, part of an NBA Championship team in 95-96. He also grew up in Houston, went to high School in Houston, and attended and played college basketball at the University of Houston. He currently still resides in Houston.
Vlade Divac was in Sacramento for six seasons. 1x All-star, part of the most successful stretch of Kings basketball ever including six playoff appearances and 4 playoff series victories.
Tom Chambers played for Suns for 5 years, was a 2x All Star, led the team to two Western Conference Finals appearances in his first two years, averaging 25 and 27 ppg in those seasons, and was the sixth man on the 1992-93 Western Conference Championship teams.
There are some common themes here. Long stretches w/ the franchise and/or unprecedented team success, including championships, division titles, and playoff series victories. All of these players also left their teams on good terms and, many are still involved w/ the franchises or stay involved in their respective communities.
@ykendall87 I'm not slighting him. I'm stating facts. You sound like one of those fake clipper fans that love CP3 and followed him to L.A.
@ykendall87 @DavidLeBoeuf He left a 47 win playoff team w/ a new GM that he supposedly liked and a new head coach that he supposedly liked. The ownership situation was in flux, but it was obvious the NBA's intention was to keep the team in New Orleans. He had one MVP caliber year, 2 other all star years, and another borderline all star year.
@ykendall87 @Jason Calmes That's fine. If that is the argument, then David West and Tyson Chandler have every right Chris Paul does to have their jerseys retired.
No where in my comment did I WISH him bad knees. It's a well known fact that the dude has bad knees. You saw him tonight: the explosiveness wasn't even close. He's on the decline. I wouldn't want to be paying him 20 million a year for the next 5 years.
I told you I have no problem w him leaving. I have a problem w retiring a players number that decided to leave.
Probably. Franchise doesn't have much history though. Bc he's the best of a mediocre past doesn't make him an automatic retired jersey.
Tom Benson is the main reason they are in New Orleans.
I don't care what the circumstances are or were. That guy did not do enough for this franchise to have his jersey retired. He had the right to force his way out, and when he did, he forfeited the right to be honored in the highest honor by the franchise. Should deron Williams be retired in Utah? Melo in Denver? Bosh in Toronto? No no and hell no. That is the category that CP3 falls into in New Orleans. 6 seasons, 3 time all star, little to no real playoff success, no lasting impact on the culture or future of the franchise he left = no jersey retirement. Easy argument.
3 weeks, 2 days ago on Of Course the Pelicans Will Not Retire Chris Paul’s Jersey
@ykendall87 They don't give statues to dudes who get bounced in the 1st/2nd round every year. Well, the Clippers might. CP/Blake have about a two year window to win something before that chronic knee of CP's starts to drain him of his physical gifts. He will still be a productive player after that but not one of the best in the world anymore.
No way should this dude have his jersey retired. No way, no how. We want to be a great franchise, right? Would Chris Paul's run in Boston got him in the rafters w/ the C's? In staples w/ the Lakers? 2 appearances, 1 playoff series win in 6 seasons? No thanks. He decided to move on, leave us, and good for him. I'm sure the Clippers will slap his face all over the side of the arena for all of the first round exits he has/will produce(d). They can have em.
I appreciate the great player he was here. I appreciate the memories he contributed to. I don't want that dude hanging in my arena's rafters. Sorry if it's harsh, but it's how I feel.