JohnPaulFutbol
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I like'a da boxing, and if you gotta problem...simply unfollow or block me.
CA,
I already commented on this one way back in the mists of time, fuck it, I'll comment again! This was an entertaining read, again! I think that if I were a bit tougher and had it a bit rougher, I could've been a regular Dorazio. He should've stuck to being a stevedore, they seem to do pretty well, at least these days. Anyway, keep up the good work, perhaps I'll buy you a frappuccino or two.
You know "Funky Plaid?" Well, I just found out he's a Jacobite, careful.
@thenonpareil I've come full circle on the HUB! Or is it half circle? How else would I have known that Oscar De La Hoya is still swinging?
You're working on something on Pintor. I'm sure!
CA,
thanks for posting this, I'd never seen it. That made me tear up at one point. Not sure why, but that Owen stuff gets me. Jimmy T and I were just discussing him last weekend at dinner. It's great to see how Owen's family and Pintor bonded. Pintor was a great fighter.
The Hub! Not so bad afterall.
AF,
The stuff about Ortiz quitting is a bit much. But he doesn't do himself any favors and he carries some baggage. I'd probably be a lot easier on him if I wasn't tired of hearing about how after being born he was put into a 20oz boxing glove and cast adrift on the Colorado River only to be recovered by a guy who traded him for 2 cases of Keystone Light, which facilitated his entry into the Robert Garcia Caveman Academy and all that. But, one way or the other he does manage to entertain and that's gotta count for something. That was a fun fight to watch, and full credit to Lopez, he stood up to some big shots.......that must've been just a bit discouraging for Ortiz.
If only Ortiz' corner had done their job and saved him in the Maidana fight, I doubt anyone questions his heart after this one.
CA,
great, great preview. There is some good stuff in here, still giggling. Maybe it's the "radioactive orange?" But, I gotta go with my guy Chavez, he's # 3 on P-4-P list for a reason. Andy Lee will be killed by death and it will be Chavez' fault. Lee is easy to hit, and Chavez is used to it....plus Lee used to wave his right like a warlock, that's a huge force multiplier. Zoolander will have his will ransacked by this performance.
CA,
"oh yeah, an African swallow maybe, but not a European swallow, that's my point."
I didn't see this fight, yet. But, with the exception of literally a few guys it seems everyone thought this was a clear victory for Pacquiao. So I assume it was. The Roger Bacon reference is spot on.....it's always seemed that discrediting Pacquiao is some way of showing your legitimacy as a boxing expert. Some gnostic bullshit. But I can assure you otherwise. Per your recommendation I had a seance last night and found out that John Dee is a pretty big Pacquiao fan. I've never understood the Pacquiao backlash and have no clue what Marquez has to do with the fight last night. But people that bleat on and on about "robberies" in what were essentially very close fights and are now acting as if what happened last night is the greatest thing since Armistice Day are pathetic. Contempt says it all......back to my hiatus.
Hi Carlos, do you have the contact info for the Luxembourg Boxing Federation?
@thenonpareil Hey, "Hercules in New York" is a classic, you should be thankful! Yeah, we had a couple of those theaters in SM way back when that would show a double feature for a couple bucks or so, good times.
CA,
pretty funny! I wonder who paid more their ticket; me for Hopkins/Dawson I or Jimmy for the rematch. After reading this I felt like such a sucker when I remembered that I bought tickets to the first fight. Was this post some sorta subliminal shot at me?
Your midnight marquee films line reminded me of sneaking into and getting kicked out of "Reform School Girls," which starred the girl who set in motion the chain of events that helped form "Fastway."
In related news, I'm about to log in to Ticketmaster and purchase tickets to Tarver/Kayode. I'm a quick study.
CA,
Kirkland v Molina was an ugly fight, and I won't bother to go back and re-watch, but that whole sequence with him getting tied up in the ropes, the knockdown, the bell ringing, his corner entering the ring and the finally the DQ.....added up to a big WTF for me. But, I'm no expert. I just know it was a dull affair.
Molina fought the fight he had to, and was certainly winning. Yes, he was holding excessively and it was ugly. He should've been warned, deducted and so forth. But, it was really surprising, to me, how he managed to push and move Kirkland around so easily at times. Are those beach muscles on Kirkland? And also befuddle him by simply not allowing his head to stay in the same place for more than a half-minut at a time. That might a be a little unfair, but just a little, Molina is a tough out, in relative terms. Being allowed to use submission holds makes him that much tougher.
Part of me likes Kirkland the fighter, as I enjoy a brawl as much as the next atavist, but part of me doesn't care much for him. He's a violent guy in the ring and I don't deny the appeal. But he's got a some goofy footwork, doesn't seem very fluid, and starts mouthbreathing without much coercion. You can see his gears turning "wait 'til I get my hands on you!," although at times with Molina it was more "which way did he go George?" Basically a top heavy oaf. He's not the sharpest tool, everything beyond brawling needs to be figured out. He ain't Marvin Johnson.
I'm in the minority, apparently, in that I don't buy into the "charms" of Ann Wolfe. That's not meant as a knock, she's not without merits I'd imagine.....I just don't "get it." Then again, I don't listen to boxing "radio" shows. Literally spellbinding stuff, it seems. If you're adding 2 + 2 and manage to work a couple "fucks" into the equation the answer is not merely 4, but refreshing honesty!
Hopefully Kirkland will be matched with guys that aren't beyond his scope stylewise, but aren't cans. Let's also not hear anymore bullshit about him being more than he actually is. Next time he struggles with weight, let's also have some Chavez Jr. level polemics. And hats off to Molina, anybody that gets in the squared circle twice with Chavez Jr. has balls of brass! He could also end up being the 2nd best thing that's happened to Kirkland.
Not sure what to make of Linares. I got a kick out of him getting KO'd in Japan. But, I can't tell you how impressed I was with his skills etc in defeat to DeMarco. But being in the arena is a whole different angle. I'd imagine it was a little more impressive in person? It's funny to see these hype jobs fall, but I have to admit he turned me into a fan. Maybe he needs one them face transplants I was reading about today? Life in the space age.
Stuff like AF's reply to my comment, and CA's comment below is why this site is #1 and others continue to get the bozak and love it!
AF,
great read! I love these historical pieces, always learn something.....which isn't saying much for knuckledragger like me! I always wonder about these guys from the past who had 90 fights or whatever at the age of 27 etc, did they live as if they were constantly recovering from a car crash? Absolutely nuts. It's also cool how a lot of old bitter rivals end up being so respectful and friendly later in life. Although I hope the Marvelous One gets the chance to cut Ray Leonard's break cables at some point.
Anyway, nice to have you back!
Ha! thanks for the point! Much appreciated. I hear you, and you are spot on. Most of my dislike of these guys is just rooted in the hype, which I should be able to keep separate, but never seem to manage to. I agree about his in-ring authenticity. I'm not sure I'd go so far as to say "Sergio Sucks!"...but, hell, if it gets AF away from reality TV and writing again, I'm all for it. He stranded me in 1935, but I can find it in my heart to forgive him.
CA,
great recap. That turned out to be a pretty entertaining fight, when you get a couple momentum swings out of a fight these days, that's a win! Didn't bother scoring the fight, but Macklin fought Martinez on even terms until about round 8 or 9, which basically seems to be his limit. The word "adjustment" was being tossed around a lot toward the end and after the fight. But what adjustment? Martinez began to pounce as Macklin began his fade. Macklin is fun to watch, and a bit improved from what I gathered on youtube Friday night, but what was to be "figured out" by a fighter of Martinez' status? Macklin fought as good a fight as his abilities would allow, and when you factor all that we knew about both guys going in, the fight followed a very predictable arc. As you said in your preview;"when Macklin decelerates he is close to easy pickings." Of course, if you simply say that then you are being way too critical of Martinez' performance. Apparently.
The Martinez hype is funny in a different way than that surrounding Pacquiao or Mayweather as it's founded on much less, in my opinion. There doesn't seem to be any room for nuance. If you disagree that he's better than the P-4-P #1 or #2, or that he's P-4-P #3!, or however you choose to communicate that you don't think the sizzle/steak ratio is all that great, somehow that means you are saying he sucks. I'm sure it's been said at ESB or some shit, but I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that Martinez sucks. He doesn't, obviously. I'm not convinced that by the same standard his recent level of competition is any better than boxing's two actual superstars has been. Perhaps part of the appeal is that he's simply not Pacquiao or Mayweather, sort of the green party candidate in boxing's idealogical struggles? Or maybe he batted his eyelashes and flashed his stripper smile at some of these people at a media day workout? Could be some don't want to ruin the cyber-fides they've worked so hard to attain with the rapidly growing group of female "boxing experts?" My attitude will certainly change when he stops domestic violence, bullying and finally teaches that dratted HBO a lesson once and for all. Then again I ought to be able to ignore this shit, dammit!
Hype aside, Martinez is a fine fighter and the best of the lackluster middleweights, no more, no less. As you've said numerous times; "what's wrong with that?" I personally just can't decide if I like his fighting style or not. Unsure if I find his cocky hands down stuff appealing or annoying. Maybe both, depending on the matchup or what side of the bed I woke up on. Either way, he'll always just be Zoolander to me.....and that's just the way it is! That said, Zoolander will have to fight Jamie Moore to properly place a value on this KO of Macklin.
This fellow has a ways to go before he reaches trollhood, methinks! Not sure he mastered reading comprehension before that 2nd post, but the "martinez bird" gave me a chuckle or two.
BTW, watched Macklin/Sturm this morning, good stuff. I didn't catch that one when it happened, I just remember the outcry. But, much better fighter than the one that fought Moore.
@JeanDagulI must say, I find myself in complete agreement with JeanDagul here. Bring on the crazy drunk "martinez bird!"
@thenonpareilJust watched Macklin/Moore, yikes! I've lost the ability to walk upright. Off to bed.
Ha! You shouldv'e entered the "bracket challenge," maybe I wouldn't be in last place. In other news, RR and I are poised to become Beverly Hills cops, this is true. Let that sink in. We're hoping to go undercover in bars and stuff.
Rooting for Macklin, but I don't see how he does it. Zoolander looks fierce, and he's also pretty good. And now that you've reminded me that Macklin is being trained by McGirt, I like his chances even less.
For a second I confused Joe Gallagher with Tommy Gallagher. No way you move on from someone who's helped mold the badassery of guys like Lalonde, Savarese and Berto. I don't know much about Joe, so maybe McGirt's an improvement?
CA,
great recap, seriously. Now that was a prizefight, exactly what it's all about, or should be. Ferocity, courage and all that. It's really too bad it took me so long to turn the corner on Lopez. You really can't have anything but respect for both guys after a fight like that. If I can't have more Haglers, I'd certainly settle for more Lopezes and Salidos.
Lopez' comments post-fight were unfortunate and certainly inspired some attempts at humor from me on fight night. But at the end of the day, who gives a fuck? He apologized. I can't believe he's facing "sanctions" and that the ref didn't accept the apology. Pretty small.
Was that one of Tennessee Williams' pickup lines? Anyway, I have to find my bow-tie as I'm running late for the P4P workshop I'm attending.