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I already commented on this one way back in the mists of time, fuck it, I'll comment again! This was an entertaining read, again! I think that if I were a bit tougher and had it a bit rougher, I could've been a regular Dorazio. He should've stuck to being a stevedore, they seem to do pretty well, at least these days. Anyway, keep up the good work, perhaps I'll buy you a frappuccino or two.
You know "Funky Plaid?" Well, I just found out he's a Jacobite, careful.
2 years, 6 months ago on ENFORCER: The Life & Crimes of Gus Dorazio
@thenonpareil I've come full circle on the HUB! Or is it half circle? How else would I have known that Oscar De La Hoya is still swinging?
You're working on something on Pintor. I'm sure!
2 years, 7 months ago on Johnny Owen: The Long Journey
thanks for posting this, I'd never seen it. That made me tear up at one point. Not sure why, but that Owen stuff gets me. Jimmy T and I were just discussing him last weekend at dinner. It's great to see how Owen's family and Pintor bonded. Pintor was a great fighter.
The Hub! Not so bad afterall.
The stuff about Ortiz quitting is a bit much. But he doesn't do himself any favors and he carries some baggage. I'd probably be a lot easier on him if I wasn't tired of hearing about how after being born he was put into a 20oz boxing glove and cast adrift on the Colorado River only to be recovered by a guy who traded him for 2 cases of Keystone Light, which facilitated his entry into the Robert Garcia Caveman Academy and all that. But, one way or the other he does manage to entertain and that's gotta count for something. That was a fun fight to watch, and full credit to Lopez, he stood up to some big shots.......that must've been just a bit discouraging for Ortiz.
If only Ortiz' corner had done their job and saved him in the Maidana fight, I doubt anyone questions his heart after this one.
2 years, 7 months ago on Bottom Dogs: Josesito Lopez TKO 9 Victor Ortiz, Lucas Matthysse TKO 5 Humberto Soto
great, great preview. There is some good stuff in here, still giggling. Maybe it's the "radioactive orange?" But, I gotta go with my guy Chavez, he's # 3 on P-4-P list for a reason. Andy Lee will be killed by death and it will be Chavez' fault. Lee is easy to hit, and Chavez is used to it....plus Lee used to wave his right like a warlock, that's a huge force multiplier. Zoolander will have his will ransacked by this performance.
2 years, 7 months ago on You Got to Work to Get Your Pay: Julio Cesar Chavez Jr-Andy Lee Preview
"oh yeah, an African swallow maybe, but not a European swallow, that's my point."
I didn't see this fight, yet. But, with the exception of literally a few guys it seems everyone thought this was a clear victory for Pacquiao. So I assume it was. The Roger Bacon reference is spot on.....it's always seemed that discrediting Pacquiao is some way of showing your legitimacy as a boxing expert. Some gnostic bullshit. But I can assure you otherwise. Per your recommendation I had a seance last night and found out that John Dee is a pretty big Pacquiao fan. I've never understood the Pacquiao backlash and have no clue what Marquez has to do with the fight last night. But people that bleat on and on about "robberies" in what were essentially very close fights and are now acting as if what happened last night is the greatest thing since Armistice Day are pathetic. Contempt says it all......back to my hiatus.
2 years, 7 months ago on CONTEMPT: On Timothy Bradley-Manny Pacquiao
Hi Carlos, do you have the contact info for the Luxembourg Boxing Federation?
2 years, 8 months ago on DIRTY POOL: On David Haye, Dereck Chisora, & Frank Warren
@thenonpareil Hey, "Hercules in New York" is a classic, you should be thankful! Yeah, we had a couple of those theaters in SM way back when that would show a double feature for a couple bucks or so, good times.
2 years, 9 months ago on Why Not Lucy the Elephant Instead? Bernard Hopkins-Chad Dawson Preview
pretty funny! I wonder who paid more their ticket; me for Hopkins/Dawson I or Jimmy for the rematch. After reading this I felt like such a sucker when I remembered that I bought tickets to the first fight. Was this post some sorta subliminal shot at me?
Your midnight marquee films line reminded me of sneaking into and getting kicked out of "Reform School Girls," which starred the girl who set in motion the chain of events that helped form "Fastway."
In related news, I'm about to log in to Ticketmaster and purchase tickets to Tarver/Kayode. I'm a quick study.
Kirkland v Molina was an ugly fight, and I won't bother to go back and re-watch, but that whole sequence with him getting tied up in the ropes, the knockdown, the bell ringing, his corner entering the ring and the finally the DQ.....added up to a big WTF for me. But, I'm no expert. I just know it was a dull affair.
Molina fought the fight he had to, and was certainly winning. Yes, he was holding excessively and it was ugly. He should've been warned, deducted and so forth. But, it was really surprising, to me, how he managed to push and move Kirkland around so easily at times. Are those beach muscles on Kirkland? And also befuddle him by simply not allowing his head to stay in the same place for more than a half-minut at a time. That might a be a little unfair, but just a little, Molina is a tough out, in relative terms. Being allowed to use submission holds makes him that much tougher.
Part of me likes Kirkland the fighter, as I enjoy a brawl as much as the next atavist, but part of me doesn't care much for him. He's a violent guy in the ring and I don't deny the appeal. But he's got a some goofy footwork, doesn't seem very fluid, and starts mouthbreathing without much coercion. You can see his gears turning "wait 'til I get my hands on you!," although at times with Molina it was more "which way did he go George?" Basically a top heavy oaf. He's not the sharpest tool, everything beyond brawling needs to be figured out. He ain't Marvin Johnson.
I'm in the minority, apparently, in that I don't buy into the "charms" of Ann Wolfe. That's not meant as a knock, she's not without merits I'd imagine.....I just don't "get it." Then again, I don't listen to boxing "radio" shows. Literally spellbinding stuff, it seems. If you're adding 2 + 2 and manage to work a couple "fucks" into the equation the answer is not merely 4, but refreshing honesty!
Hopefully Kirkland will be matched with guys that aren't beyond his scope stylewise, but aren't cans. Let's also not hear anymore bullshit about him being more than he actually is. Next time he struggles with weight, let's also have some Chavez Jr. level polemics. And hats off to Molina, anybody that gets in the squared circle twice with Chavez Jr. has balls of brass! He could also end up being the 2nd best thing that's happened to Kirkland.
Not sure what to make of Linares. I got a kick out of him getting KO'd in Japan. But, I can't tell you how impressed I was with his skills etc in defeat to DeMarco. But being in the arena is a whole different angle. I'd imagine it was a little more impressive in person? It's funny to see these hype jobs fall, but I have to admit he turned me into a fan. Maybe he needs one them face transplants I was reading about today? Life in the space age.
2 years, 9 months ago on 10 & Counting: Linares, Pavlik, Kirkland-Molina Afterthoughts, Harry Crews & The Knockout Artist, Bell-Ringing Blues
Stuff like AF's reply to my comment, and CA's comment below is why this site is #1 and others continue to get the bozak and love it!
2 years, 10 months ago on THE WORKS: Bob Montgomery vs. Wesley Mouzon II
great read! I love these historical pieces, always learn something.....which isn't saying much for knuckledragger like me! I always wonder about these guys from the past who had 90 fights or whatever at the age of 27 etc, did they live as if they were constantly recovering from a car crash? Absolutely nuts. It's also cool how a lot of old bitter rivals end up being so respectful and friendly later in life. Although I hope the Marvelous One gets the chance to cut Ray Leonard's break cables at some point.
Anyway, nice to have you back!
Ha! thanks for the point! Much appreciated. I hear you, and you are spot on. Most of my dislike of these guys is just rooted in the hype, which I should be able to keep separate, but never seem to manage to. I agree about his in-ring authenticity. I'm not sure I'd go so far as to say "Sergio Sucks!"...but, hell, if it gets AF away from reality TV and writing again, I'm all for it. He stranded me in 1935, but I can find it in my heart to forgive him.
2 years, 10 months ago on MERCIFUL HOUR: Sergio Martinez TKO11 Matthew Macklin
great recap. That turned out to be a pretty entertaining fight, when you get a couple momentum swings out of a fight these days, that's a win! Didn't bother scoring the fight, but Macklin fought Martinez on even terms until about round 8 or 9, which basically seems to be his limit. The word "adjustment" was being tossed around a lot toward the end and after the fight. But what adjustment? Martinez began to pounce as Macklin began his fade. Macklin is fun to watch, and a bit improved from what I gathered on youtube Friday night, but what was to be "figured out" by a fighter of Martinez' status? Macklin fought as good a fight as his abilities would allow, and when you factor all that we knew about both guys going in, the fight followed a very predictable arc. As you said in your preview;"when Macklin decelerates he is close to easy pickings." Of course, if you simply say that then you are being way too critical of Martinez' performance. Apparently.
The Martinez hype is funny in a different way than that surrounding Pacquiao or Mayweather as it's founded on much less, in my opinion. There doesn't seem to be any room for nuance. If you disagree that he's better than the P-4-P #1 or #2, or that he's P-4-P #3!, or however you choose to communicate that you don't think the sizzle/steak ratio is all that great, somehow that means you are saying he sucks. I'm sure it's been said at ESB or some shit, but I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that Martinez sucks. He doesn't, obviously. I'm not convinced that by the same standard his recent level of competition is any better than boxing's two actual superstars has been. Perhaps part of the appeal is that he's simply not Pacquiao or Mayweather, sort of the green party candidate in boxing's idealogical struggles? Or maybe he batted his eyelashes and flashed his stripper smile at some of these people at a media day workout? Could be some don't want to ruin the cyber-fides they've worked so hard to attain with the rapidly growing group of female "boxing experts?" My attitude will certainly change when he stops domestic violence, bullying and finally teaches that dratted HBO a lesson once and for all. Then again I ought to be able to ignore this shit, dammit!
Hype aside, Martinez is a fine fighter and the best of the lackluster middleweights, no more, no less. As you've said numerous times; "what's wrong with that?" I personally just can't decide if I like his fighting style or not. Unsure if I find his cocky hands down stuff appealing or annoying. Maybe both, depending on the matchup or what side of the bed I woke up on. Either way, he'll always just be Zoolander to me.....and that's just the way it is! That said, Zoolander will have to fight Jamie Moore to properly place a value on this KO of Macklin.
This fellow has a ways to go before he reaches trollhood, methinks! Not sure he mastered reading comprehension before that 2nd post, but the "martinez bird" gave me a chuckle or two.
BTW, watched Macklin/Sturm this morning, good stuff. I didn't catch that one when it happened, I just remember the outcry. But, much better fighter than the one that fought Moore.
2 years, 10 months ago on Hardchaw, Dreaming: Sergio Martinez-Matthew Macklin Preview
@JeanDagulI must say, I find myself in complete agreement with JeanDagul here. Bring on the crazy drunk "martinez bird!"
@thenonpareilJust watched Macklin/Moore, yikes! I've lost the ability to walk upright. Off to bed.
Ha! You shouldv'e entered the "bracket challenge," maybe I wouldn't be in last place. In other news, RR and I are poised to become Beverly Hills cops, this is true. Let that sink in. We're hoping to go undercover in bars and stuff.
Rooting for Macklin, but I don't see how he does it. Zoolander looks fierce, and he's also pretty good. And now that you've reminded me that Macklin is being trained by McGirt, I like his chances even less.
For a second I confused Joe Gallagher with Tommy Gallagher. No way you move on from someone who's helped mold the badassery of guys like Lalonde, Savarese and Berto. I don't know much about Joe, so maybe McGirt's an improvement?
great recap, seriously. Now that was a prizefight, exactly what it's all about, or should be. Ferocity, courage and all that. It's really too bad it took me so long to turn the corner on Lopez. You really can't have anything but respect for both guys after a fight like that. If I can't have more Haglers, I'd certainly settle for more Lopezes and Salidos.
Lopez' comments post-fight were unfortunate and certainly inspired some attempts at humor from me on fight night. But at the end of the day, who gives a fuck? He apologized. I can't believe he's facing "sanctions" and that the ref didn't accept the apology. Pretty small.
Was that one of Tennessee Williams' pickup lines? Anyway, I have to find my bow-tie as I'm running late for the P4P workshop I'm attending.
2 years, 10 months ago on LOVING MONSTERS: Orlando Salido TKO10 Juan Manuel Lopez
@thenonpareil Well, CA, I was wrong. What can I say? Hell of a fight though.
You know what else I was wrong about? That wild haired guy on Ancient Aliens isn't a professor, he publishes some sort of tip sheet for wackos.
I see you're closing in on me with 35pts. I better go score some cheapies on bigfootencounters.com.
2 years, 10 months ago on The Lighthouse Invites the Storm: Orlando Salido-Juan Manuel Lopez Preview
good preview, really looking forward to this one. As you say, there's no way he can look worse than he did last April. Will that be enough? Like you, I'm not sure how many changes a fighter can make once they're at the stage of their careers that Lopez is. The combo of the lack of head movement, getting so wide and dropping hands after throwing would seem fatal. Perhaps the verdict will be death by misadventure? His flaws and Salido's resilience should make this one fun to watch regardless.
I have to lean toward Lopez in this one though. He's got more tools and Salido doesn't have a monopoly on intangibles here. But, I wouldn't mind seeing Salido win, guys that like are easy to root for. And I really should warm to Lopez, his vulnerability keeps things entertaining and his desire to fight is too rare these days.
When Jimmy, JPM, Alex and I were in Vegas last February for Donaire/Montiel I saw Lopez walking around. He didn't look close to being in fighting shape, but he didn't look anywhere near 190lbs or whatever everyone was saying he'd ballooned up to. Then again, maybe I had my beer goggles on?
@thenonpareil No, "eye" read the whole thing. There were some damn fine one-liners in there!
2 years, 11 months ago on Geezers Need Excitement: Vitali Klitschko-Dereck Chisora Preview
I got nothing for this, but I love the title of your preview. I can't see anything else happening but Chisora deep throating 1-2's. I tried to work myself up for this matchup by youtubing that clip of the slap 3 or 4 times, but I just can't get it up for this one. Why the hell do people buy into that sort of shit? "Klitschko looks pissed, he's gonna kick his ass now!" WTF is the difference?
I know you don't like to use "I" in your posts/pieces. But, "I" went balls to the walls......you ever seen comment that uses "I" once in every 10 words or so like mine? I await your reply.
Chavez /Rubio certainly wasn't Hagler/Hearns or whatever, but I didn't find it as awful as most are pretending it was. It's also funny how Rubio was a LIVE DOG and a step up, until he lost, then he wasn't either of those things. The DUI and the drug test thing are worthy of note, I just have a hard time manufacturing shock after every fight week after week.
I don't know what's up with Donaire, but I think Garcia has to have some accountability. What the fuck does that guy teach? He's pretty damned overrated, in my opinion. Not exactly sure what my diagnosis is at this point, but that showboating is a bad sign, as is the "whipping single shot after single shot." You'd think Garcia wouldn't have any of that shit. I like Donaire, but he's making it hard with those in ring antics, his "emo" excuse making and Yoko. But, I'll keep watching him, that's for sure.
I didn't watch the other fights, I'm only a casual boxing fan after all. But I enjoyed reading about them here at TCS. Now that you seem to have returned for real, it's time to return to gathering my family around the monitor for readings from TCS
2 years, 11 months ago on AFTERMATH: Donaire-Vazquez Jr., Chavez, Jr.-Rubio, Hernandez-Cunningham, Gutknecht-Uzelkov
what a return! Great preview, some good stuff in there. Zoolander certainly has been pining over my boy Chavez, and for good reason. Chavez is badass! Almost. He's fun to watch more often than not and he's even funner to root for. If I'm honest, I don't know who to pick in this one. But, I'm rolling with Chavez. Hell if he took training serious and didn't struggle with his weight all his fights would be 15-1 squash matches. Anyway, I need to get back to Njal's Saga....it's great to have you back CA, I was worried.
2 years, 11 months ago on BAD COMPANY: Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.-Marco Antonio Rubio Preview
CA, are you playing with my mind? It's January 16th, I don't see any quiz and it's not Tuesday!
3 years ago on Announcing The Cruelest Sport "Real Steel" Blu-Ray/DVD Giveaway Contest!
way to end 2011 with a bang, these last two posts have been amongst the best stuff you've ever done. Keep up the good work!
3 years ago on Dyah Davis Has the DNA to Go All the Way!
Hagler takes Monzon or Zale.
3 years, 1 month ago on DEMPSEY SPEAKS!
nice one, again. I don't see how Froch wins this fight, hope I'm wrong. A skilled, athletic spoiler who gives "boxing head" is a tough combo to beat. Perhaps Froch's jab and intangibles will be enough? If not, at least he gets to go home with that screaming banshee of his.
We'll have a billy goat who is the second coming, a Cobra, a screaming banshee ringside and Smoger! A boxing match, or the resurrection of the Grand Guignol?
3 years, 1 month ago on ENDGAME: Andre Ward-Carl Froch Preview
@thenonpareil Just wait until Chavez Jr. starts making adjustments. And if Martinez continues to duck, I say he just pitches a tent outside GBP headquarters and offers to lick any SOB in the house for a month or two.
3 years, 1 month ago on The Third Man: Lamont Peterson W12 Amir Khan
great stuff. Totally agree. I thought Peterson was a credible opponent. Not a no-hoper, but I didn't think he had a chance. If that makes sense! Of course I picked Khan, I really did think his quick hands and feet would be too much. After all the post-fight bullshit, I'm glad I was wrong. It's just too much to ask that people be good sports'. I guess.
I started rooting for Khan, because he was so disliked and some of the criticism of him bordered on forum message board madness. Which of course led me to all sorts of fun on the interwebz, but my pro-Khan schtick blew up in my face last night! But hell, that dude is simply clueless on the inside, and seems to just start arm punching when he's either tired or seemingly nervous. He doesn't seem the brightest light in or out of the ring. And while I was surprised he got the points deducted, you can't say it wasn't deserved. Pretty funny that people get so bent out shape when the rules are actually enforced.
Peterson won fair and square, and good for him. Sad thing is that the focus will still be on Khan, rather than on Peterson rising to the occasion.
@thenonpareil There could be some interesting debate about the seating arrangement GOAT.
3 years, 1 month ago on AFTERMATH: Cotto-Margarito, Mares-Agbeko, Rodriguez-Wolak, Helenius-Chisora, Moreno-Darchinyan, Etc.
@thenonpareil Apparently it's in like a huge cafeteria or something, no elevation......people can't see! Perfect.
@thenonpareil Holy shit, laugh out loud! Did you see this seating fiasco in DC? What a fucking venue!
@thenonpareil Ha! "Scotch tasting" is a bit lofty a term, it was only for Dewar's. But I guess they can call themselves scotch as it's from Scotland. Anyway, it was 3 free drinks and just around the corner at the Jim Henson Studios. Allowing me and Rocky Rob to run wild in Muppet Land after a few drinks probably wasn't a good idea.
I'm currently working myself into a lather. I'm going to pretend I know everything about ethics just as soon as I figure out what they are. But, I'll call for a boycott anyway.
Andre Berto territory! Yes, pretty pathetic.
Furthermore, GBP didn't replace my tickets and they sold less than 1200! If that's not an act of provocation, I don't know what is. The world has gone mad. Mad.
awesome, another enjoyable read. I plan on gathering the family around for a reading later. I'm too bushwacked to comment on this stuff. But, I did want to say that I, JPF, am extremely disappointed in GBP for not replacing my tickets that I'd won to the original Mares/Agbeko fight that was cancelled with tickets to the fight last week. I checked the interwebz, and this meets the criteria that would allow me to bring that house of cards down under "just war theory." As soon as I get some energy I'm going to fucking lower the drawbridge and ride out in my Honda Fit and do some smiting. I'm too tired right now and I have a Scotch tasting to go to later. But GBP is on the list.
@Andrew Fruman He doesn't want any of Chavez. That would be like playing Russian roulette with a flamethrower.
3 years, 1 month ago on PAST MIDNIGHT: Miguel Cotto-Antonio Margarito II Preview
@Andrew Fruman Cotto showed those skills, for sure. Good call.
@dennis wise haha! It's probably for the best, it's a downward spiral!
@dennis wise Yeah, it would be nice payday for either. Just not sure it would be worth stepping into the tornado of fists that is Chavez Jr. Nobody wants to fall into a wood chipper.
You are not cynical enough! By a mile. I kid.
If the winner of this fights gets Chavez Jr., is there really a winner tonight?
@Michael Nelson I hate to sound like a wacko, but I fear Agbeko will have to win pretty damn convincingly to get a decision over GBP's lil' champ.
3 years, 1 month ago on RICOCHET: Abner Mares-Joseph Agbeko II Preview
great! Hell, I have Friedrich's "A Walk at Dusk" hanging over my desk! Very nice.
I'm hoping Cotto gets his pound of flesh, but unless Margarito's eye comes into play. I don't know. Margarito can take some abuse, Cotto can't. That could be the difference, in my opinion. I really like Cotto, the occasional low blow aside, he's always comported himself well inside the ring and that's a pretty big deal for me. Hard fight to call, to bastardize a quote by Liebling (I think) I don't think you could hear the sea in the shells of these two fighters at this point. Should entertain, however. Rooting for Cotto, let's have it.
3 posts on TCS in 1 day? The end times must be near.
nice preview. This is another fight that has me waffling.
I liked Mares and want to like him. But I have a hard time giving him a pass on the mortal pocket pool. I ignored the low blows and the resulting protests from Darchinyan, pretty much because I don't like Darchinyan. But the Agbeko fight was another matter. That wasn't cool, and wherever you choose to assign blame, it wasn't an even playing field. You have to hand it to Agbeko for making it a fight, all things considered.
Agbeko is a tough guy and a tough chore, I don't like picking against him here. Especially as Mares tends to fade and get wide...and low!, late in the fight. But, if I was betting I'd take Mares. He's fairly well rounded and I'd have to assume took some legit steps to address his conditioning.
Good stuff, thanks for learnin' me.
3 years, 1 month ago on The Champion That Time Forgot: Wallace "Bud" Smith
as they say on the interwebz, "fuck the haters!" Chavez is usually fun to watch and he drives the boxing experts wild, a win-win. Anyway, I think I'm going to grab a copy of "Ask the Dust" today. Sounds like my kind of book.
3 years, 2 months ago on Changing Man: Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. TKO5 Peter Manfredo Jr.
@thenonpareil You see, CA? You see? Bring on Martinez and Pirog!
3 years, 2 months ago on Problem Child: Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.-Peter Manfredo Jr. Preview
good preview, as usual. This will just be one more step on the way to the murdalization of Martinez, pretender to the WBC middleweight throne!