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@blanchard48moh@4himDidn't you assert somewhere in here that you are a believer?
The NT references are Romans 1:26-27, I Corinthians 6:9-10, I Timothy 1:10.
Concerning the OT, most of the references are in the book of Leviticus. Regarding the laws that you see in the OT, there is a
difference between God's moral law and the ceremonial law
that He gave to the nation Israel. The ceremonial law involved rituals and regulations so
that a person could approach God. They were centered on the tabernacle, later
the temple, and were mediated through the priesthood whose functions largely
involved the presenting of sacrifices and offerings. In a limited sense, Jesus
Christ came and fulfilled that law and in so doing, abolished it. When He
purchased our salvation by His own blood, the regulations of the OT were
rendered null and void.
However, regarding the moral law, He has declared its permanency (Matthew
5:18). The moral law is a revelation of the character of God, and God doesn't
change. His moral law will be as consistent as His character which it
God reaffirmed His moral teaching concerning homosexuality in those verses above (with references to other sexual sin elsewhere in the NT).
1 year, 11 months ago on On Jason Collins and time and place
@blanchard48moh I agree with what you say in this last comment, but again, Broussard was asked a direct question, and gave a direct answer. (In fact, he was quite courageous, b/c the third rail of journalism nowadays is: Don’t say anything negative about homosexuality.) I would think that if he was asked to comment on LeBron having a child out of wedlock, he would share his view of what the Bible says on that issue. (At least I think he would - he seems to me to be a Heat homer, and doesn't seem to give the Spurs their due. :-))
@blanchard48moh There are several references in the NT, and then several more in the Bible as a whole. But the # of references isn't what is most important - what is is the clear teaching of Scripture. In God’s original design, human sexual conduct was to occur within the context of marriage between one man and one woman.
@blanchard48moh We don't all cherry pick, and you're confusing what some religion teaches vs. what the Bible actually teaches. There are not restrictions as to what we can eat - we have true freedom in that area ("Don't let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink..." - Colossians 2:16). A true Christian believes in the whole Bible as the Word of God, and seeks God's will in all areas of life.
As you mentioned elsewhere we are all in rebellion against God, yet by endorsing sin we seek to make our words rather than God’s Word the authority on what’s right or wrong.
Your last (second) paragraph is a strawman - no one is making that argument. There are many homosexuals that live their lives as they please, which is fine, but then there are many others (with the help of the media and others in positions of influence) who aggressively promote the sinful homosexual lifestyle, even to the point of seeking to change the definition of marriage which has existed for thousands of years (and which will have very destructive consequences for society).
@blanchard48moh Collins didn't make himself public during his whole pro career - what makes you think that someone would have suddenly made him do so? He wasn't really famous, so I don't know why there would have been extra pressure on him. I'm certainly not impressed with those who seek to harm others b/c of their sexuality.
@blanchard48moh If you're implying here that Broussard was disparaging Collins, then I don't see it. Again, he was simply presenting a Biblical view of the issue.
Whether homosexuality is moral or not is certainly now a big issue, b/c homosexualists have aggressively forced their agenda on the rest of society.
Re. how we treat one another, yes, that should be the same regardless of our beliefs. With civility, full dignity and respect.
@blanchard48moh Concerning the gist of what you express here, I agree with you completely. Every person is made in the image of God, and is therefore worthy of dignity and respect.
I didn't hear the Joe "Pags" comments, but if he simply expressed that one's sexuality doesn't need to be flaunted in front of everyone, then I agree with that.
@blanchard48mohSo coming out being the first athlete in a major team sport to say, "I am a homosexual" is worthy of being called a hero? It's not like he found a cure for cancer or HIV, now is it? (One could also certainly question the motives of a player who averaged 1.1 ppg & 1.6 rpg this past season and may not be in the league next season.) And it's pretty difficult to be a hero for something that will happen in the future ("...he will be persecuted, and he will inspire").
Homosexuality is clearly a sin, and a very destructive lifestlye - not something that should be flaunted and celebrated. Broussard correctly states that it is just one of many sexual sins which are rebellion against God. That sin needs to be dealt with on an individual, private level before God. The bigger issue for society as a whole is that a small segment of that society has been actively and aggressively promoting the homosexual lifestyle within our culture. We see it in our schools, our media, our courts, and even in many of our churches. “Gay marriage” is just one phase of this assault. At its core, “gay marriage” is NOT about equal rights; it is about re-defining what marriage is as part of the aggressive promotion of the homosexual lifestyle throughout society.
Re. Broussard: When he says "As a Christian," he understands a Christian to be someone who has a relationship with God through Jesus Christ and believes the whole Bible as the Word of God, as opposed to those who simply cherry-pick certain verses to fit a certain agenda. It's who he is - he can't deny that just because there are others with differing views who call themselves Christians yet don't live according to the Word of God.
What is controversial and inflammatory is the aggressive promotion of the homosexual agenda, and the Collins story is just a part of that. Without that agenda, guys like Broussard wouldn't have to be commenting on it at all.
You make some good points here, but you failed to explain why Jason Collins is a hero. And why do you come down so hard on Broussard? As you touched on, he was basically encouraged by his employer to express his Christian convictions on this issue, and yet he is vilified for it. Why can't he comment on something "outside his expertise," especially when he is asked a direct question related to Christianity and Collins' sexuality? In what way does expressing the Biblical view of homosexuality "make young people's lives a living hell"? Why are only Broussard's comments 'inflammatory'?
Why is it that people who are asked about Collins' decision and don't immediately express their unconditional support are immediately labeled as intolerant bigots & a homophobes? Why do we have to put labels on anyone at all?