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@BradenMatthewLadner I was being facetious to prove a point about the hole in the logic "homosexuality = sin = rebellion ---> not Chrisitian". I don't think being overweight is a sin, just as I don't think the fact that I'm wearing a blended fabric sweater is a sin. And I'm sure there are other Christians who'd agree with me and I'm equally sure that doesn't mean we can't be Christians.
10 months, 1 week ago on A personal response to Chris Broussard's comments on Jason Collins | April | 2013
@calvinmasterson If you read my other responses I think you'd see you misunderstood my main point. I'm not anti-gay or pro-slavery and I agree the Bible has some consistency errors, especially if everything is taken literally.
For my part, I wasn't "cherry-picking" verses. I was simply agreeing with Braden that the NT verses regarding slaves were twisted in the past to support slavery- which they do not expressly do. (Notice, the instructions are addressed to slaves, not slave owners... a subtle difference, but still a difference.) Paul was writing within a specific society with social norms of its own and his purpose in writing was spreading the gospel, not abolishing slavery. That said, my main point to was point out to Braden that OT verses *do* expressly condone slavery (even beating slaves!) and that those can't easily be explained away.
@BradenMatthewLadner I can understand your perspective but there is still a hole in the logic behind it... unless we're going to decide that people who have accepted being overweight (or who have accept wearing blended fabrics, for that matter) are in open rebellion of God's law and therefore cant' be Christians. And I'm not going to say that, as it is clearly ridiculous- which was my point about Broussard's statement from the get-go.
@BradenMatthewLadner @calvinmasterson I agree that verses in the NT were twisted to support slavery. However, there is no getting around the fact that verses in the OT openly condone it.
@BradenMatthewLadner I'll explain how I can argue with what Broussard said, but first let me clarify what I'm NOT arguing with. 1) I'm not arguing with Broussard's right to state his opinion. Being disagreeable or even offensive isn't illegal. 2) I'm not going to argue about whether the Bible contains anti-homosexuality verses- that's not debatable. (What *is* debatable is whether said verses are universal, absolute, eternal laws, like the prohibition on murder, or not, like the prohibition on eating shellfish. But I digress.)
My problem with Broussard's statement is the last bit, where he says he wouldn't characterize Jason Collins, or anyone "living in unrepentant sin", as a Christian. Why does he think it's acceptable for him to make that sweeping judgement? Good thing it's not up to Chris Broussard. By his logic, all overweight Christians- excuse me- "Christians" (and there are a lot of 'em!) are in danger of the fires of hell- gluttony is a sin and so it must follow that, by remaining overweight, they are in "open rebellion to God". I could go on with other flaws in his logic, but I won't.