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@Payton @jelewin Flacco had a 10 rating because he only needed to throw the ball ten times (the game was out of hand within the first few minutes of the game thanks to Ray Rice and Brady turning the ball over multiple times). The luck argument is absurd, every team has to have luck to win. Did the Packers get lucky when the won the SB in 2010 because Jay Cutler got injured? Peyton manning also got lucky that the Bears beat the Saints in 2006 and didn't have to face Drew Brees in the SB (we saw what happened when they actually faced each other 3 years later). Flacco is 28; Brady and Peyton are in their mid-late 30's so you can't compare them at this point, but Flacco has played better than Peyton in the playoffs (besides for his historic playoff run this season: 11 TDs to zero pics isn't a fluke, he outplayed Brady in last year's AFC title game). Flacco isn't a great regular season player, but his postseason play is superb (six road playoff wins and making big plays when they need to be made). Flacco still has many years left and he only started scratching the surface...
11 months ago on Guest Post- Snubbed: NFL Total Access Ranks Peyton Manning at #3 Quarterback Taken No. 1 Overall
@jelewin @Payton 11 TDs to 0 interceptions, while outplaying Luck, your idol Peyton, GOAT Brady and the dynamic Kaepernick. Flacco is just as good as Eli Manning.
@Payton right you can speculate as how Aikman would have fared without Nate Newton and Larry Allen but the fact that he won 3 SBs is still pretty telling (also the 1990s was much more of a run-first system), so it's impossible to say what would have happened had Aikman played today were QBs are forced to throw the ball 45-50 times a game. I certainly agree that Peyton is better than AIkman; all I'm trying to point out is that Peyton's not-so-great playoff resume comes into discussion. Where he should be ranked on this list, I have no idea (all these top ten lists are arbitrary-I mean wow Carson Palmer made the list- anyways so who cares).
yeah Namath won 2 career playoff games and was slightly above average.
@Payton QBs don't have to apologize for having good players on their team. The fact that Aikman won without salary cap restrictions is beside the point (the core Cowboys players were drafted-Emmitt Smith, Irvin, most of the offensive line). Also, as baseball has shown us, spending lots of money in no way guarantees success (contrast Phillies and Red Sox with Rays and A's). Peyton had some pretty good players himself (Harrison, Edgerin James, Freeney, Mathis and Jeff Saturday). Even the best QB will not win without have a solid supporting cast. I'm not sure how attributing team wins to a QB is a weak argument: when is the last time you saw a game manager QB like Trent Dilfer or Brad Johnson win a super bowl? Those days are over. Teams cannot win in the playoffs without a great QB, and while Peyton is a sure thing first-ballot hall of famer and arguably the best QB ever, his playoff performance is certainly tainted and pales in comparison with other great QBs like Brady, Elway, Montana.
Aikman won 3 Super Bowls; Peyton won 1 (in which he threw 3 TDs to 7 interceptions); Aikman was 11-4 in playoffs, Peyton is 9-11. Of course Peyton is better QB but I don't think it's such a stretch to include Aikman in the mix.