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Tom,

I have been noticing that when you do your posting here you have a strong tendency to become upset and call people names and rather than critique their ideas you very often attack them personally so I thought the good words of a hockey friend of mine might help you overcome “your condition.”

"Those who cannot understand how to put their thoughts on ice should not enter into the heat of debate."

Friedrich Nietzsche

21 hours, 58 minutes ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/

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@Ahockeyguy Your comments on Nash pretty well sum up the reasons why CBJ got rid of him. Nash is what is called "an energy sucker", a player who de-motivates other players on his team by trying to draw energy and attention to themselves...quite the opposite of "an energizer" who inspires other players with their energy and take-charge way of playing.....Zucc McD as examples.


As you point out there is too much respect for Nash and other players look to set him up rather then focusing on the talent development of the entire team. It is a professional embarrassment for Nash to be pulled from the power play.....with the $ he is making!!

 If Nash does not transform his way of playing offense he will create dissension (because of his play and his contract!) on the team, fans will publicly belittle him and he will eventually be forced into a trade. New York does not take kindly to underachievers who make a lot of money while under achieving.


High performers in sports , in business, in the performing arts,by their very nature have zero tolerance for "the way a Nash plays" the game and they will  eventually let Nash know!....you can count on that! Nash is lucky that his coach "is a NICE guy".....but if the fans get vocal AV won't be able to save him because MSG will be publicly embarrassed...and we all know what will happen then.......just ask Isiah!

1 day, 9 hours ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/

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@betweentheworlds "I wouldn't say blind optimism - perhaps near sightedness but I'm a fan so I'm allowed."............perhaps it's "Good Vibrations" keep 'em coming I always want to know what you feel is coming, my man!

1 day, 20 hours ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/

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@gravey94 @IcyCup And I think he will step it up as long as he plays with Zucc. Zucc is the catalyst for that line even though Brass is the center.

2 days, 13 hours ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/2014-articles/rangers-sign-brassard-to-five-year-deal.html

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@FrankCerbone Wow!...slow down here just a bit. You sir, are intimating a lot of negative judgment against NYR players WITHOUT A SHRED OF EVIDENCE THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION "WHY" DID THEY NOT ATTEND.....NOT A SHRED! Do you make these kind of judgments often?????

3 days, 11 hours ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/

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@IcyCup @EHBIGAPPLE  O. K. In my estimation Richards our de facto captain last season was not an effective leader via his inspirational on-ice play.....keep in mind during the most difficult times for the NYR (and that would be the playoffs) he was sitting in the press box or relegated to the 4th line. In addition his speaking and body language while communicating to the Press was akin to attending a lecture on Statistical Analysis at your local library.....boring! I would think, but with no evidence, that he speaks that way in the locker room...ugh!


(C) I would reluctantly choose MSL for the Captaincy because his unique situation was at the very center of bringing the team together in a cohesive and inspiring way. I personally think very few Ranger Captains (after Mess) came close to doing that. My reluctance has to do with how much he personally played in bringing the team together as opposed to others using his situation as a very effective rallying cry for team unity.(no disrespect here at all) I just don't know? It might not be a great risk in choosing MSL due to his age and I don't think anyone else has the success stripes that he has.I also think few NYR would object.


(A) McD is the Captain-in-waiting. I think everyone on the team looks at him that way. My question is  (and this is without knowing) does he have the relationship skills to inspire others with his words?. If he does he will be A Great Captain! If he doesn't he will be a Good Captain. His play is incredibly inspiring.


(A) Zucc: I worked with a lot of players/performers like this Norwegian Missle.They are respected and loved by their teammates and by the coaching staff. And everyone on the team knows they will carry their brothers and sisters on their back during the most difficult of times. What I found is that very often they prefer to lead from the back of the room. They shy away from the formal mantle of the "C" but will always always do what is best for the team in an inspiring way. Until Zucc shows me he is "that way" he is my over-the-top choice for the second (A)



4 days, 11 hours ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/

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Great leaders (Captains) in all walks of life share one thing in common..........they all lift the performance level of their players. It is not about their past...it is not about whether they are likeable. It is only about do they inspire greater performance in their players.....through their inspiring play on the ice AND AND their inspiring words to their teammates.

The locker room holds the answer to the question of the new Captain and Alternates. Unfortunately, the Captain is chosen by management and that brings the politics of the organization (not player inspiration) into play!


If it is solely left up to the players to choose they would make the right decision each time....every time!

4 days, 12 hours ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/

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@DP_Snotty Best post of the post-season. Great Mom!.....Great Grandma!..OUTRAGEOUSLY COOL!

4 days, 12 hours ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/

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@Gianni74 Your critique of Rosen and Joe Mich is totally on target. Unfortunately it reflects Dolan's absolute control of anything having to do with non-playing personnel of  MSG properties. And that means no on-air criticism of the players.


Pre-Dolan Girardi would have been crucified. I personally would like our "Captain" to have "a controlled mean streak", like Messier...........along with credible hockey skills" With AV as coach we really don't have anyone like that. ....no mean streaks!

4 days, 18 hours ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/

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@TomDundie @EHBIGAPPLE Now I understand. You present ideas here on how others should think rather than trying to understand how others might think, first.....O. K.

1 week, 1 day ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/

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@TomDundie @EHBIGAPPLE "Carolina aint got no need for 1 center  Carolina when we offer a possible top center ,dman  on the rise ..2 top prospects from conn."..........does Carolina know that this is the way they think? or does Tom know that this is the way Carolina thinks?

1 week, 1 day ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/

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@TomDundie I agree with everything you suggest here but I seriously doubt any GM in the NHL would trade their #1 center for any combination/total of the players you suggest. I believe NYR can get back to SCF if the team gets a little tougher/faster (and I am not talking fighting here).....get stronger/faster at the center position (using internal resources)......and Nash becomes a FACTOR when the going gets tough (for the first time in his life)......and everyone else has a repeat of 2013-2014. 


The Eastern Conference is a parity conference....like watching the NHL on any Sunday with all the mistakes and misplays. We can win The East in the Playoffs, which is really what is most important. We have to be a little bigger/faster/tougher team  to take the Cup from the West. We really don't need a bonafide super # 1 center.....just 2-3 really good ones.

1 week, 1 day ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/

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@IhateGaborik @betweentheworlds Nash will suck the energy out of Brass and Zucc....Z-B-MSl line will thrive....they will mesh.........each is creative....and they will develop a feel for one another and become a solid 1-2 line.

1 week, 3 days ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/

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@Brukie_ @GregB1919Yo Burkie!

It amazes me how many times your comment has to be said!

1 week, 3 days ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/

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@Herman_NYRBlog @EHBIGAPPLE Great reply....very professional!

 I like the NYR's emphasis on work ethic and attitude. I wonder how they assess those characteristics before they draft players?......can they interview Coaches, parents, the players themselves, the families they stay with in Junior??

 A super sharp interviewer/assessor  (and there are very very few) can determine work ethic and attitude very successfully through a number of interviews in different settings.......you gotta know the questions to ask and you gotta know the responses that reveal character, attitude and work ethic.

 Thank you for getting back to me, Adam. I appreciate and respect your work here!

1 week, 4 days ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/

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Adam.........great write ups on future talent.....Thank you! What follows is a quote by Phil Jackson regarding The Knicks moving forward.


"We have some talented people in this organization, but they need more direction. Our scouts and analysts also need to align the tons of information on potential prospects they churn out every day with our long-range vision for the team. To that end, we’re planning to analyze every team in the league and figure out as a group what’s driving them, so that we can make moves now that will make sense three to five years down the road." 

Adam...........Based on your discussions with scouts and players how does the NYR scouting system compare with Phil Jackson's perspective on scouting, organizational direction, the aligning of tons of "talent information", long range vision and competitive analysis?.......PLEASE!

1 week, 4 days ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/

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@betweentheworlds I have total respect for your experience with PCS and your first hand knowledge of the healing process. As you also point out "Nash has to want it." He has to have the desire. My concern is that Nash has never been "a difference maker." He has always been a "putting butts in seats" kinda guy or else CBJ would never have traded him away when they began to focus on winning The Cup.


Nash, when he recovers, has to re-invent himself (rather than return to his former self) or else all we can hope for is his offensive effectiveness in a lot of open ice and his offensive disappearance when the going gets tough.


Can he change and become a true power forward?.........sure if he wants to and that is the key. I have not seen any indication in Nash's background that tells me he wants to make that kind of change.......that tells me he is willing to make that kind of  commitment. Do you think, right now he is working on those changes with his buddy on the West Coast?....you know the one that the Bruins gave up on and now The Sharks want to send him packing.

Like attracts like, (as you know so well). Mr. Nash is hanging out with the wrong people!....if he is going to change.


2 weeks, 2 days ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/

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@gravey94 @EHBIGAPPLE @FrankCerbone Your data is thorough and accurate. I am asking a bigger question (and I am in no way criticizing you!)....."what are the talent selection processes and talent selection procedures that will yield an improved rate of success when choosing talent and predicting performance in the first round.....in the second round....in the third round?


Every accountable performance based business has those procedures in place because too many $ are at stake. Most  NHL teams pick their talent scouts from a pool of former players who are "trying to stay in the game in some capacity.".......that is a flawed process to begin with because it presumes that a former player can not only recognize talent but can also predict future performance of that talent. 

And that is like saying a great engineer would make a great manager of engineers or a great sales person would make a great sales manager and that is totally flawed because production and management are two very different but related skill sets....having one does not mean you have the other.


I believe the crony good old boy way of initially choosing talent scouts is " at the very foundation" of an NHL wide poor drafting process' that yields weak results.

2 weeks, 4 days ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/2014-articles/the-clear-cut-case-of-tanner-glass-hes-not-good-at-hockey.html

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@gravey94 @FrankCerbone Gravy....great presentation of relevant information. Thank you! Perhaps we as NYR fans might want to ask:

1) what does this say about the effectiveness of the NYR talent selection model?

2) Are our success results any different than our competition?

3) Does the entire NHL select talent (use the same processes) as we do?

4) Are there any other "performance related" businesses that we could learn from that would enable us to double our selection success rate?

5) Leaders in any performance focused business are "suppose" to recognize embrace and adopt into their organizations any and all profitable innovation that will make the organization more successful. That kind of leadership/innovation can begin at any level in the organization............hmmmm I wonder if talent selection teams use computers. I think they use fax machines...but I am not sure.



2 weeks, 4 days ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/2014-articles/the-clear-cut-case-of-tanner-glass-hes-not-good-at-hockey.html

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@betweentheworlds And his favorite coach of all time was Mr. Wooden, a revered intuitive via factual analysis....both elite high super performers!

2 weeks, 5 days ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/2014-articles/the-clear-cut-case-of-tanner-glass-hes-not-good-at-hockey.html

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@betweentheworlds Yo!.....great question and great answer. I learned that anyone....anyone can develop talent with the proper "character and heart." 


If you yourself have awareness of your own "character and heart" in any Performing arena....it is not just Hockey..... You will easily recognize it in others and you will easily recognize when others do not choose to develop their "character and heart."

Some of us can recognize the patterns of thinking and behavior that demonstrate heart or the absence of it. They recognize those patterns intuitively with their feelings (gut reaction) and others can recognize those patterns by analyzing someone's performance  data and recognizing those patterns of character in ways that they can only understand......all "right brain/ intuitive/Eastern stuff" but incredibly valid!


What the NHL has yet to accept is that based on betweentheworlds comments along with Say my Name and Gianni74 (is that "a family name"?...love it!) demographic profiles and psychographic (measure character and heart) profiles of high performers can be drawn up that would significantly make talent selection more predictable and more effective.

2 weeks, 5 days ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/2014-articles/the-clear-cut-case-of-tanner-glass-hes-not-good-at-hockey.html

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@FrankCerbone And all that tells me is that Clark is a nice guy (a lot of people on this site like nice guys so I thought I should lead with that) and the processes and procedures used by Clark to select talent, whatever they maybe, are flawed or at least they should be reviewed in order to determine how they can produce  more effective results......that is what any business would do that was committed to accountability......ehhhhh? Does anybody here think old Gordie's ego gets in the way of a more effective selection?????

2 weeks, 5 days ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/2014-articles/the-clear-cut-case-of-tanner-glass-hes-not-good-at-hockey.html

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@Gianni74 @Say my Name You guys are so on the money here. It is astonishing how NHL teams have turned the draft into "a low probability crap shoot" on who is going to emerge as a real hockey player after years of playing Junior and or Euro hockey and or College hockey.


There are tons of ways to predict future human performance....tons! I know because I was held accountable for all the hires I chose. My ass was on the line for mega bucks regarding my choices.


The NHL is still in the Neolithic Ages regarding talent selection decisions. Which is why the same hockey cronies continue to be Hockey scouts and so many on this site think they do a good job. NHL is definitely "a good old boys club" scared shitless about examining a new way of doing things that could be more effective (more accurate) and more efficient (less costly).

2 weeks, 5 days ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/2014-articles/the-clear-cut-case-of-tanner-glass-hes-not-good-at-hockey.html

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@Gianni74 I like your idea here. I think with a limited cap space along with Parity, especially in The East.....all the NYR have to do is qualify for the Playoffs. The season can be a solid training period to get younger players up to speed. With our total defense we can go on another Playoff run.

2 weeks, 5 days ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/2014-articles/the-clear-cut-case-of-tanner-glass-hes-not-good-at-hockey.html

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@Say my Name @EHBIGAPPLE Never about you..."too much street cred" in my estimation! You remind me of a CEO I used to consult with....smart dude....great leader......tough real tough on his people! His Executive Team would say that he would give them a heart attack (sort of) with his performance expectations and then get them "a world renowned Specialist" to treat them and send food baskets and flowers to the families......like Jack Welsh....that is a top-shelf compliment!


Say my Name you are Cool in my Book!

2 weeks, 5 days ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/2014-articles/the-clear-cut-case-of-tanner-glass-hes-not-good-at-hockey.html

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Yo! Adam and Kevin,

I like your articles and I mean all of them because they make me think, make me question and consequently learn and there is nothing I enjoy more.....well there is one thing I like more, "baby,please give me a few  more minutes."

Although I may disagree with some of your ideas I respect the contribution you make to your readers (like me!) regardless of what your intention is in writing. What I do not respect are the righteous, arrogant personal comments directed at either of you or directed at your readers.


Many forget a truth in life......"We see others not as they are but as we are" So if you are seeing and talking about used toilet paper or calling others asinine I can write you a prescription for some "Self-appreciation pills." They really work and you will appreciate yourself more in the morning!

2 weeks, 5 days ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/2014-articles/the-clear-cut-case-of-tanner-glass-hes-not-good-at-hockey.html

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@jasonshyer @Herman_NYRBlog @jiBRO22 He and AV did not see "eye to eye' over ice time and more responsibilities. AV had similar issues with Kesler in Vancouver (which is why Kesler did not want to come to NYR.) There seems to be a pattern with AV and Physicality's role in winning.........anti-Kesler......making Ms. Sedin captain.....anti-Cally.....anti-Boyle....anti-Dorsett. I am not criticizing AV for this(yet!) but I would have loved to have Kesler as our go-to-center.

2 weeks, 6 days ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/2014-articles/the-clear-cut-case-of-tanner-glass-hes-not-good-at-hockey.html

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@Say my Name Now I know why "the Committee" keeps turning down my dissertation.....Is that Chivas or Johnny Black, perhaps?

2 weeks, 6 days ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/2014-articles/the-clear-cut-case-of-tanner-glass-hes-not-good-at-hockey.html

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This is typical statistical overload done by an analytical personality on a subject that brings miniscule value to no one. Big emphasis on the processes you used and the stats you compiled and the time you wasted on something few care about. How many NHL organizations would be impressed by this work and hire you??


Why don't you create some REAL VALUE and analyze and assess any of the more important(costly) of investment decisions that go into running an NHL hockey club and sell what you learned,researched and compiled (your real value) to the highest bidder. 

I am being serious and respectful here, Adam. This is a well thought out and well researched presentation. Apply your acumen against more costly issues that all NHL clubs face......present your findings to them....close the deal and then take a trip with Say my Name to Brazil and put the rest of your money in a Swiss Account!....GOOD LUCK!

2 weeks, 6 days ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/2014-articles/the-clear-cut-case-of-tanner-glass-hes-not-good-at-hockey.html

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@SirKengin I agree with your assessment of AV. He is not an inspirational type guy and really doesn't want to be. He is an excellent developer of talent. Your point on "lack of passion" is well taken.


The passion you speak about can also be supplied by "player leadership" providing that verbally in order to inspire the team. That is a very very rare talent indeed in any walk of life, including hockey. That is why JD called Mess the greatest captain in all of NY sports.

Perhaps during the new season a player will emerge who has those passionate verbal qualities....maybe the new Boyle has them....we shall see!

3 weeks, 3 days ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/

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@shootthepuckforpetessake @Blueshirts Corner I think the Bar is really in West Virginia?????

3 weeks, 4 days ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/

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@betweentheworlds Wasn't he a first round pick for us and the highest NHL drafted Russian at the time????

3 weeks, 4 days ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/

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@Say my Name Does zelrio's signing bonus come along with that??

4 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/

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@Josh-CK Good thinking here.....goal tending and defense. Some of us forget we play in the Eastern Conference (weak)....not in the West. All we have to do is make the playoffs. We don't have to win The President's Cup. I'm looking forward to seeing some of our youngsters develop during the year and become contributors during our playoff run!


My pipe dream - Nash traded for two hard-nosed 2-way 15 goal scorers.

4 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/

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@KevinTheNYRBlog @kjetiaha I think Sather has "pictures" on Zucc!

4 weeks, 1 day ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/

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@DP_Snotty @Say my Name When he played I used to think he was born without teeth.....nice touch!

4 weeks, 1 day ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/

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@Say my Name "Hillary Step"....Hillary Step".....I am writing all these down!....This is wonderful!

1 month ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/

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@Hotfreak You might know.........me heard that Kesler did not want to come to NYR because he has been upset with AV for giving "The Captaincy" to one of the Sedin boys instead of him.....while they were all with the Canucks??????

1 month ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/

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@Say my Name Kaizen!..........Kaizen! and some thought it was just about Sushi!.....Well Said!

1 month ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/

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@Derek Stepan @KevinTheNYRBlog If the Avs really really wanted to keep him he would be locked in by now. Roy does not see him as a future 1st liner and they have a desperate need to upgrade their defense.

1 month ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/

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@BringBackBeukeboom Well said and that Plan will work just about every place as long as there is a total top down organizational commitment to build and develop a winner that way!

 Unfortunately the ownership of the NYR sees it differently. Here there is an emphasis on the growth strategy of acquiring Marquee players because the belief is that is the only way MSG will continue to be a cash cow. (which is the real priority)

AV has certainly demonstrated the ability to plan and manage a game and also clearly develop players. The acquisition of MSL was sheer good fortune for Sather, rather than a well-thought out execution as part of an astute plan to acquire The Cup.

 I, too would like to see a "reasonable youth movement' that would see the regular season as a time of both winning a place in the playoff along with a strong emphasis on  talent development, creating a team that would then excel in the playoffs....perhaps a pipe dream.


The PLAN that you aptly describe above works with all "teams" measured by their performance and constained by a budget......teams in sports....business.....performing art.

1 month ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/

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@KevinTheNYRBlog @Gianni74 Something to consider here.......If Stevie Y is building an organization  (organization is the key word!) modeled after the Red Wings and The Kings and The Hawks then they will keep their players and sign others at reasonable $'s as the future unfolds.


All we Ranger fans have to do is understand how great organizations attract talent eager to win a cup! We don't have that kind of organization here in NY whether it is Basketball or Hockey . ..........thank you Jimmy.


btw why did Gaborik sign (for considerably less $) with the Kings? Did anyone listen to the comments of the players, coaches, management when they won The Cup?......all praising the entire organization. Kings do not have a marquee culture like NYR do?

1 month ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/

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@Say my Name @Bueller You got me at the Adam's apple! You not only write good stuff but you bring out the best in others!


BTW does "it" still have a green card?

1 month ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/

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Cap system is a tool pushed by NHL management to keep salary costs at the lowest possible level. It is a leverage tool that the PA agreed to in order to get back on the ice. The Cap system is the biggest reason why "the enforcer-type" is going out of style (financially)

Carcillo was well liked, supportive and vocal in a positive way on every team he played for and every team he played for passed on resigning him because there are plenty like him out there. As others have pointed out he not only supplies grit to the NYR but he also raises  "the grit level" of the entire team.And on a team like NYR that is so important.

I would be shocked if Sather uses his Cap space on re-signing him. But I hope his replacement brings the same "contagious grit" plus some speed and a little more offensive upside.

1 month, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/

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@rangermom Now keep it clean...young lady!

1 month, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/

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@Say my Name Love all the kudos for "the big missile.' All earned and deserved I was wondering if you, gravey94, Between, Billfrom et al have any thoughts about converting Zucc to a centerman. I am not as close to NYR scene living out here as most of you. Z IMO is the most defensively responsible forward (of our top 9) we have. Beyond his skills, as you guys point out what impresses me about him is his willingness to learn, apply and develop. (he is extremely coachable!) Many of you guys know the game well..... I respect that........I'd like to hear your ideas.....please!

1 month, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/

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@theSmurfbitch which is why Boston traded him away back when and why SJ wants to get rid of him now!

1 month, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/2014-articles/report-joe-thornton-only-wants-to-go-to-the-rangers.html

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@betweentheworlds Right on target here! High Achievers hang out with High Achievers and Woosies hang out with Woosies....since the beginning of time!

1 month, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/2014-articles/report-joe-thornton-only-wants-to-go-to-the-rangers.html

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