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@Say my Name Good stuffagain, Don't know if you caught it on TV. Someone was talking about how Wirz, President of the Hawks made a special trip out to L.A. to personally present Carcillo with his RING.....says tons about the character of both men....eh?
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@DPSnotty @AG_BlueReminds me of Nash and Richards!
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@brian2686 @Say my Name@EHBIGAPPLE@blueshirt21
You and I are different and that is perfectly O.K. You think nice and I think VALUE. All I'm saying is that Nash is over valued by most NYR fans. He is valued quite differently by the GMs around the league.
He is big ...real big on skill and talent but leaves much to be desired when it comes to executing those skills and translating those skills into specif measurable results (and not just goals and assists)
You can believe all you want that Nash wanted out of CBJ because that was said publicly. The reality was/is that Nash received a lucrative contract from Columbus in order to help establish a franchise in a brand new Market (a market that was and still is dominated by College sports.) When CBJ senior management wanted to go in the direction of The CUP they saw that Nash is not the kind of hockey player that could use as a centerpiece to build around.
Keep in mind great power forwards or even very good power forwards never get traded. The only great power forward ever gotten via a trade was Cam Neely to Boston, which is considered one of the worst trading blunders in the history of the game.
Yes, Nash is a nice guy. Say my Name....maybe? No, No on second thought not really? Me.....I don't ever want to be considered "a nice guy" by men or women and I think I have been pretty successful so far. Nice is like a Hallmark greeting card. Everybody gets one once in a while and to me it is all kind of boring. I remember when my Mother would say to me, "Boy do I have a Nice girl for you" or "She has a nice personality"....As Mick Jagger would say, "That makes a hard man soft!"
Thanks for getting back to me!
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@Say my Name @TomDundie@ObviouslyTwoPointsAreGreatNo matter who you are....no matter what team you play for.....every true NY sports fan will never accept COASTING or Lack of HUSTLE.....right Robbie?????
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@brian2686 @EHBIGAPPLE@blueshirt21 Rather than going into a Big Picture explanation. Nash is described as a power forward but he does not play like one. Most breakdowns on the top ten power forwards do not even include him....check it out.Does he play like Lucic, Getslaf, Backes, Perry, Hossa, Benn, Ladd, I won,t mention Simmonds, Kane? Every one of the players I mentioned make significantly less than Nash!
It is an oxymoron to have "a power forward with a calm disposition".....they don't exist....Thank the Lord!......Sorry my bad,,,,there is one on the NYR and his name is not Zucc.
Perhaps you might want to consider why CBJ got rid of him when they deemed him "not to be necessary to fill the seats in Columbus.?"
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@Bueller @Say my NameTake a look at all the players who make 7.2M a year and assess what their impact and contribution is to the teams that are paying them. Now make the same assessment with Nash.....Now what did you learn? Don't forget to do the same for "our little Ritchie"
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@blueshirt21 So you will take it for 7.2M?
@McPhee37 " I want what he is having!" Great post!
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@NYR44 "Fair?.....Fair?....You can't handle Fair!"
@NYR44 Lady Byng is always the last one standing at the bar! No one ever takes her home but....but....but she has a nice personality!
@AnnoyingJoe Where are the Alpha Babes???....Where are the Alpha Babes?
@Say my Name @johnnyb3910Sather has a tremendous ego and I believe he would never allow AV to use Talbot short of an injury. It was O. K. to sit Zucc ($) because Sather never gave him a big contract. It was not O.K. to sit Richards last year (You can bet the farm on that.) You can also bet the farm that Torts never consulted Sather Re: Richards....he just did it!
What a message it would send to the King if he was benched! What a message it would send to the team!
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@Say my NameYou go to the Mountain Top and you get results. No apologies needed here, Say my Name. WHAT you said...AND HOW you said it.....pure hockey and life wisdom! You have any room in your fox hole I want to sign up.
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@Betweentheworlds @EHBIGAPPLEI am with you on McD. I don't feel good about his mobility. I will expect a more fluid and puck carrying McD on Tuesday.
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@Betweentheworlds Actually, you had me at "kiss my ass!" Good stuff here. You are raising a great question that I think has not been raised all season,i.e. Is this present NYR team built for "a good season." or is it built for "a strong Cup run.' or perhaps both??
I think our series with the Flyers is going to go a long way in answering that question about our present team. We have a better team than the Flyers. But the playoffs require so much more than simply being good. Many of us know that it takes UBER courage, UBER will power an a UBER and consistent compete level to go deep in the playoffs. (Thank you Say my Name for the use of "Uber")
If we are honest with ourselves this series will tell us if the Nashs, the Haglins and the Richards are up for the Uber Playoff test. The definition of Uber = play better than u played during the season, give a check, take a check and not shy away from contact for 60 minutes. Can they do that?....Absolutely.......WILL they do that....Let's see!....ALL AN ACT OF THE WILL!
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@rangermom Hey Mom!....you are on to something right here. AV is a good coach for many reasons (a teacher of his system,,,perhaps positive and supportive in his relationship building with his team etc.) He is not not not an inspiring leader and inspiration is needed right now.
NYR simply wilted under the intensity of the Flyers. Someone needs to step up and inspire the team with words perhaps, but definitely with their play.....only McD on offense and Zucc have demonstrated that ability to do that during the season. The King can do that by dominating and I mean dominating....stay tune?
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@Betweentheworlds Two notches!
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@Brukie_ Just great to watch. Dubi showed great leadership in all 3 zones!
@Betweentheworlds Love the way you think! We have to look at the context of Richards' success last night. Two of Richards 3 points came off of a power play. He needs plenty of ice to be effective. He is an excellent passer and an excellent shooter when he has plenty of ice space.
I believe Zucc could play the point more effectively than Richards can. He brings the puck into the offensive zone with far more confidence to pass or carry in order to set up the pp unit than Richards does. Could you imagine with Zucc on the point and Kreider down low for next year's power play??....and how much $ will they make?
We are all seeing Richards at his best in a very very specific context. When we look at the overall value Richards brings to the team relative to the dollars he is paid.......time to go, Brad.
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@Say my Name YOUR REPLY JUST ZOOMED TO NO.1 ON THE NY TIMES BEST SELLER LIST....MASTERFUL!
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Great coverage here, kevin. THANK YOU!
@Rangerfan99 @GiveGartneraCupSo....so on the money! You have discovered WHY the likes of JD and Mess have never become part of the senior management fabric of the NYR. Very honestly I try not to think about it because I find myself opening a bottle of Jack at breakfast!
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@Say my Name Now tell me again why the NY Hockey press is revered around the league.....tell me again why they can't get exclusive interviews with any players or with mgmt.......tell me again how they "are wired into the upper echelons of the NHL.......tell me again why they can't get any national TV gigs. What Torts and AV share is a disdain for "the hockey acumen" of the NY Hockey press though they express their feelings quite differently.
@Dznpicksformoulsonnow Hope now many on this site will be a little more enlightened re: Statsny. The AVs have 4 very good centers and they think less of Statsny to let him go to FA and develop the other 3. Just like Dallas let go of Richards because they did not think enough of him to re-extend him. Some on this site will say "Oh, they offered Richards a contract." They only did that "as a favor" to help create a market for Richards services which Sather jumped all over. In the words of Michael's Dad, "they never offered him a contract that he couldn't refuse!"
In addition your comments on Statsny make us realize why CBJ wanted to get rid of Nash.......he too had limitations to the value he brings to a team for the money he is paid.......always about Return on Investment/equity....always.
@KevinTheNYRBlog @EMoney2413that he doesn't make the offensive turnovers and the defensive gaffes that Miller makes.
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@KevinTheNYRBlog @Say my Name@gravey94Kevin....do you apply those same high standards to your own performance (in any capacity?) as you apply them to Henrik? If you do then I stand corrected, but I don't thinkl you do...do you?
Only "players" who have never played in Teddy Roosevelt's arena would ask such a question of Hank. It is all about respect and appreciation!
@Wallace1 @EHBIGAPPLE@Say my NameGood point on Moore....the reason why CBJ was willing to give him away. I question Richards' ability to take a hit without being intimidated....hope I am wrong.
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@Say my Name Like you I would be very surprised if there was any "goonery". Bettman and the NHL does not want to see it while they are attempting "to grow the sport in US." I think the refs will "be spoken to." before the series.
Every NYR has to be expected "to take and give a check" throughout the entire series and we all know there has not been consistency in that area. If the entire team is willing to do that we stand an excellent chance in five or six.
We must show discipline in any fighting situation....rub your glove in their face but don't drop your gloves. (watch Zucc....very very smart!) That kind of discipline will remove any intimidation strategy that the Flyers might employ. It will also encourage them to take stupid penalties.
The key to our success lies with team defense (where we play hard with a three zone commitment)....with pp effectiveness........ and with our King between the pipes. What he stops will deflate the Flyers. What he lets in will deflate us.
@ObviouslyTwoPointsAreGreat @JoeyKocur@JMK8363Richards is effective on the PP when it is already set up in the offensive zone. At that point in time he has plenty of open ice especially if he is not challenged. But he is often challenged because most of the time no one is in front of the net to draw a defender away from Richards. Challenge Richards directly and he will wilt along with any confidence.
If the other team immediately challenges our pp as we exit our zone Richards will again lose all confidence and most often fail to set up in the offensive zone. On the other hand Zucc has the confidence to carry the puck into the offensive zone or to draw two defenders to him and pass to set up the pp. Too bad Zucc's unit can't play all 2 minutes.
Richards is also a liability right after a failed NYR PP (happens 80%) Here he is deflated again and is now on the ice facing "the high energy line" of the opposition.....ugh!....a recipe for diseaster!
Now order up some more sushi.
@rangermom Dear God! You are the first woman I have ever encountered (through the internet, of course) that watches NYR through a prism of wisdom. You speak like an "Old Soul" and I am not talking about physical age. I am impressed!
Kevin, I agree our defense is playing superbly. Perhaps you might also take note that if our forwards do not play a strong game in ALL 3 ZONES our defense would never be able to play the way they do......no matter how much talent they have. Most not all fans on this site never really acknowledge the critical importance of team defense.......It wins Cups. Team defense is what wins cups.
If we play the way we played last night we can beat anyone anywhere FOR ONE GAME. The key to a playoff run is whether Richards, Nash, Brassard (has to get a little smarter) Haglen and a few others will be WILLING to play 3 zone hockey all the way to the Cup. Playing hard in all three zones is always...always....always an act of the will........Will I do it when I'm tired?.........Will I do it when I get hit hard? Will I do it when I hit someone else Hard? ...........Will I drive to the net?.......Will I try and execute after my initial shot etc. Will I do it when I am slightly winded? Will I do it when my check has the puck and has a step on me?.......Will I compete xtra hard in the last minute of every period......ACTS OF THE WILL.....EVERYONE OF THOSE DECISIONS!
KUDOS to AV for taking the NYR to the playoffs during "a transition tenure" Major contribution to the PP ................opened up the offensive capabilities of our defense.....outstanding development of Zucc and Pouillet and other young players.....while maintaining great goal tending and a further devel of Talbot. Excellent job!
@IhaveawaiteratMSG Perhaps a glance at the complete W-L record will illustrate that of all 16 playoff bound teams WE have accumulated the lowest home point total. Count up points for wins and ties. Hopefully we can turn that into a true "home ice" advantage.
Scotty Bowman was hated by the Montreal Press. He was accused of
being a poor comunicator with his players all throughout his career.
When Steve Shutt was asked what was it like to play for Bowman. He
responded, "364 days of pure hatred and then on the last day you
collected your ring."
At some point after my High
school years I realized how public statements made (by people in power)
to the press and public statements made in press conferences are not
about telling or revealing the truth but about covering one's
butt.........It doesn't matter who is in power in the White
House.........does it? The White House Press Conferences put forth the
same strategy no matter whether it is by a Donkey or an Elephant
you ever listened to a hockey interview of any kind? They are all the
same. The same catch phrases are used over and over and over
again.......all made "to cover my ass" or to cover my teammates or to
cover for my organization. Hockey is no different than the rest of our
society.......you don't truly understand what really went on until those
in power are no longer in power and do not want to be in power again.
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@Betweentheworlds Yo, brother. I can't locate where you posted an apology for your views and insights because someone claimed they were "made up."....my message to you is never. ever...ever apologize to anyone for your ideas and views. Believe in yourself which is always your responsibility and don't give a rat's ass what anybody else thinks about you. What they don't realize is that their judgment of you reveals the way they judge themselves!
@DPSnotty You are a good DAD....great support for your daughter. Kudos to both of you. Your daughter will not always remember the things you did for her but she will always remember how you made her feel with your support!
@_Jack @EHBIGAPPLE Jagr's case is different. He wanted to get out of Pitts and establish himself as his own man.....get out from Mario's shadow.
I'm talking about(1) players who have good but decliniing stats (Richards) and somehow fans here have great expectations where GMs around the League realize he comes with significant limitations (2) on the other hand Nash has had consistently good #s and was awarded all that money to help bring in fans and build a fan base in Columbus, OH. Management there now wants to turn towards the playoff and look to build a Cup winner and they see Nash as not the guy to help them do that. If he was viewed as a"leader to the Cup." he would still be on the CBJ.
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@_Jack @EHBIGAPPLEI am not a fan of Av and I will give him all the kudos he deserves. Pouliot is enjoying an outstanding season....simply outstanding especially when you check his stats of this year against what he did for his previous employers (5 teams??)
The guy plays hard in all 3 zones, sees the ice very well (better than ever) and is playing with the kind of confidence he had in junior. All the credit goes to AV and his staff for developing him. I also credit Pouliot in believing in himself enough that he was WILLING to take the risks necessary to experience such outstanding development. All talent development is an act of the will.
Even though it really has not been said publicly I think Zucc is the kind of linemate who makes those around him better......unlike Richards and Nash as an example. I think MCD has similar impact. It appears guys "want" to learn from McD and Zucc. I have no proof just a feeling and I have learned to trust that.
@Betweentheworlds I absolutey agree with you but the big question for a few key Rangers (not named Zucc) will they WILLFULLY CHOOSE TO PLAY THAT WAY FOR AN ENTIRE SERIES?
@Bring back Langdon What u saw of Stewart's game last night was the reason why The Blues dumped him. Many on this site over value new players the Rangers acquire via trade or via free agency. Many on this site never ask the question........"Why did teams give up on them?.....why did their former teams not re-sign them?"
I think it is pretty clear to all why Dallas never made an offer to Richards that he could and would accept. I think it is clear to all why Nash's contract with CBJ was highly over valued. I think CBJ was clearly aware of Nash's many limitations (no matter what was said publicly).................and who won the NYR MVP award and how much does he make?
E I agree with everything you said re:Sather. Sather "leaked all that crap" as a set up to not re-sign Cally, as u pointed out. If Sather had any class he could have positioned Cally in a far more respectful and appreciative terms.
I never supported Sather due to his way of handling people and his obvious strategy of not wanting to win the Cup, but rather wanting to bring in marquee players. It is not a coincidence that Mess is no where to be found. Sather would be intimidated by such a hire.
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@ObviouslyTwoPointsAreGreat @EHBIGAPPLEAppreciate your clarity....thank you!.....well said!
@Bring back Langdon I have been involved in countless high end-high performance contract negotiations. When two sides want the same thing everything and anything can be ironed out.....always. It is called "getting to "YES." I think 99% of us here know that Cally wanted to stay.
From my experience in such negotiating situations it is crystal clear that Sather did not want Cally next year and did everything he could do to make sure that he would be gone and if he could swing it get as much value for Cally as he possibly could.
That is Sather's GM negotiating strategy.....and he has every right to do that. No one got "fucked"....no one was "greedy".....no one was "a jerk!"
@ObviouslyTwoPointsAreGreat @EHBIGAPPLEO. K. you seem to have it all down to exact predictability....predictability on how a GM will behave......predictability on what motivates a GM and predictability on how fans will eventually respond to a GM.
Now what about fans who see the big picture of a team?????......any room for them......any room for appreciation for the good things that happened during a GM or a player's tenure?
I want Sather removed, fired, canned AND I appreciate the good things that he accomplished during his tenure.....why is that so difficult to grasp.
What I find "a little sad" is that 20K people (and I agree with you here) will look at a player or a GM and eventually dismiss both as worthless....worthless without an oz of appreciation for their contributions.
A lack of appreciation of others reveals a lack of self-appreciation for oneself (to be a tad redundant)
@ObviouslyTwoPointsAreGreat @rangermomYeah....I forgot how JD is bad mouthed in every place he has worked and I also forgot how Rocky Wirtz is hated in Chicago. Thanks for the reminder.
@KevinTheNYRBlog @EHBIGAPPLE@BetweentheworldsWhen Cally's agent said , "Glen never got back to us for a final go-around as he (Glen) promised." Both Cally and agent were very surprised when they found out they were traded to Tampa Bay without a courtesy heads up from Sather as they were promised.
You can deny this all you want! Understand that Sather never disputed what Cally's agent said he was promised.....never. In addition ask yourself if Sather ever acted in this kind of way before?? if you are not sure ask Brian Leetch...was he ever a captain??....was he ever homegrown??
@KevinTheNYRBlog @BetweentheworldsKevin....how can you believe in such dribble. "Callahan left him with no choice." They were 300K apart and Sather made a decision to do something else which is his prerogative as GM. If Sather wanted him he would be signed and that 300k gap would have been rectified to the satisfaction of both parties..............There are many here who don't like "the business' aspect of the sport and "the business aspect" of the NYR. If people would try to understand how the business aspect works many would truly appreciate the tremendous contribution that Cally has made to the growth of the NYR over the years (perhaps second to The King)
I am a big Cally fan and do not like Sather BUT I believe Sather made a great short term and long term deal to get MSL. I believe it will help the NYR and I would still love to have JD or someone very much like him to run The NYR
@mando24179 Like your ideas. I only get to see NYR on the tube from all over the country. It appears to me that Step for a 2nd line center is smarter and more defensively responsible than Brassard. I think Zucc makes Brassard look better than he really is. I keep asking myself why it takes both Brassard and Step so long to start producing during the season?
I also am not close enough to assess which of the two has more upside to develop and which of the two has a more "coachable' attitude? What say You? (for example Pouillet demonstrated greal learning ability as did Kreider under AV's coaching!)
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@TomDundie I have found in playing roles as parent,lover, teacher,coach, sales pro,sales mgmt and performance consultant that if I wanted to communicate with others I had to be responsible for What I say (communicating in a clear concise way) and I also had to be responsible for "the listening" of the person or persons I was talking with ( I had to make sure that they clearly heard and understood what I said) That was my world and I was accountable for both sides of the communication equation.
I flat out admit and I flat out own my lack of understanding of most of what you write. I accept total accountability for my lack of understanding.......I RESPECTFULLY ask you .....when you communicate on here do you have any interest in making sure that others like me understand what you are saying? Or perhaps you communicate simply to speak your words with zero interest in being understood.....Please answer my simple question.
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@mando24179 "There's no big brother for them," Buffalo coach Ted Nolan said of his
inexperienced players. "They have to sink or swim, and certain games
like this, it's going to catch up to us."
I know you like Nolan as a couple of more do on here. They were his words when Reinaldo clocked one of his players into a concussion. You have a head coach speaking publicly about what many have said here.
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@mando24179 I am with you, Mando. The only difference between NYR and The Bruins is different GMs. Any organization.....like any fish stinks from the head down!