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There is exactly one thing that should make the Spurs go for it: If the Thunder go small...I don't think Pop can leave Tiago and Tim on the court together, and we are back to square one.
Also, Tim and Tiago are too slow to really defend the PicknRoll. This is where Smith fits perfectly. He is one of the few players who can "blow it up"[i.e hedge hard and recover] with his outstanding athleticism. OKC burned us on those exact players at the WCF last year.
1 year ago on Smith To Spurs Rumors won't die
Looking at the field, unless you think Jennings is a better player than Tiago, than Tiago is the best player GM Ferry can get[Seriously, some of those deals are just hilarious...Humphries and Brooks? really?].
It all has to do with 3 Pop and RC perceptions:
1. How much does it hurt, if any, the title chances for this year.
2. Does Smith worth a max deal[Obviously he doesn't. However this is not how the NBA works]..
3. Do They think he resigns[If the Spurs offer him as much money as anybody else...I am certain he will]
I am all for standing pat. But in a hindsight, this is not a bad trade.
Let's say just for a heck of it, that the teams has agreed on a Tiago, Jackson and a 1st rounder for Smith.
If we break what we give against what we get we see that:
Splitter is a RESTRICTED FA. Which means his next contract is a variable! i'll tell you all a secret, considering the contracts guys like Nene or McGee or DeAndre Jordan got, Tiago can get up to 13 Million a year even maybe MAX![His advanced stats[WP48,WS48,WARP] put him in all-star production.
Josh is Unrestricted. While I agree he isn't a Max guy right now, his set of skills, his age(He is younger than Tiago!) and upside or enough to push it over. So now, Pop and RC just need to make up their mind right now, if they think he is worth that money. Because I am 99% confident that he will resign here for that money.
Tiago is great. But playing him next to Duncan is really playing 2 Centers together. The biggest downside is Pick'N'roll defense. The Spurs are one of the worst teams in the league defending it, mostly because Tiago and Tim are too slow hedging and recovering in time. Josh essentially solves that problem.
Other things that make sense in that trade, is the high-tempo Spurs offense. Tiago is unbelievable running the floor, but isn't it obvious that Josh will be better in that scenario?
If that's the trade. I say go for it.
1 year ago on Spurs interested in Josh Smith?
If he and Lorbek are coming, I guess it's in Pop's intent to trade it's secondary assets in the draft. Maybe a package to return to the first round, or maybe get a multiple 2nd rounders. I think Tiago,Neal,Bonner and Blair are in the mix for a new place of living.
1 year, 8 months ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/2012-articles/june/de-colo-speaks-on-possibly-joining-spurs-next-season.html
@ajd21 He shot 68% from the field. That's great. Besides, thats 16.5 points per 36 mins.
1 year, 8 months ago on Report: Davis Bertans to participate in individual workouts for Spurs | June
@jojo707 Lorbek is way better than Bonner and has much more on the table. He can work the post well, he can shoot 3's and midrange off the the dribble ect. He and Duncan can make a fantastic frontcourt. Lorbek shot 41% on 3's and 55% on mid-range. That's great as a set shooter and as a roll or pop guy.
I do agree though, Tiago as the odd man out. The team needs a great defender, above the rim kind of Center. To pair with a Bonner or Diaw, That;s why it's safe to presume Tiago is a trade bait at the draft.
1 year, 8 months ago on Update: Lorbek set to wear black and silver next season | June
@rtesoro440 They don't. Splitter is mainly a pick'n'roll monster, great hands and feel around the basket, useless when more than 5 feet of the rim.
Lorbek is way way more versatile. 40% on 3s, 55% on 15-23ft. jumpers, has a better post game than Tiago.
The questions about him are mostly defensively, can he keep up with athletic big men.
1 year, 8 months ago on Lorbek named MVP in FCB Regal title victory | June
@rtesoro440 If anything, he is closer in his style to Manu than to Parker. So just like Manu things may not be what they are, at least athletically. He could appear to be slow but still great.
1 year, 8 months ago on Valencia VP: De Colo determined to play in the NBA | June
@TomArmstrong I totally agree. He is the best roll man in the entire NBA[in PPP] which is insane. But he is just too weak, or he is just used to be the tallest/most athletic guy on the court.[Like he was anywhere else]
1 year, 8 months ago on Could Tiago Splitter become this season's George Hill? | June
I would go all in on Meyers Leonard. It's super funny that on DraftExpress his best case scenario is...Tiago Splitter!!
But this is obviously not true. The guy is taller, much bulkier, has an amazing vertical and even a 10ft. shot. He would be the prefect addition to the team. Thing is, I am not the only one who is intrigued. I think he could go 7th or 8th, which is beyond our reach in any case.
@MostJadedGamer In game 2, you look at the box score and you think, hey! KD had a great efficient game. But how can you say that he was great when the rookie he was support to play defense against, went for 18 and 10 on 5-7?? So if ind myself subtract Leonard above average output[I.E he is 10 pt. guy, so 8 points] from KD's total. And this is really his adjusted output. As someone that plays 42 minutes a game, he is responsible to about 5th of the defensive liability which from 120 is ALOT.
1 year, 9 months ago on Notes from shootaround: KD's really ready to go
@ThunderBelize @bertfan Actually, Green and Co. missed quite s few wide open shots. Also, Harden and Durant were amazing. They hit on every pull up J which is also above the mean. So all things considered I think that the 'mean' is still a Spurs win.
1 year, 9 months ago on Thunder battle back but drop Game 2 to go down 0-2, 120-111
@bertfan 3 things: 1. Ibaka plays = Thunder wins is a myth. Ibaka played 39 minutes last night, and Spurs scored 120 points! Ibaka is an amazing weak side defender, but anything else? meh.
2. I thought Fisher was misused. He should be there as a facilitator and having Westbrook running of screens to start a possession. But no, Russy needs to do everything himself. Fisher is calm, he has experience ad he is a good passer.
3. You can't just order better defense. If you look at the stats, OKC WON the Points in the paint. That means that something was done right.
@courtsense I think they tried it tonight in some sense. It failed because the Spurs are starting every possession with Parker or Manu going off a set of screens, once they are done, Russ\Harden\Thabo are beat up a little more and Manu\Parker got a little separation to work with. Usually they go straight into a picknroll.
Steve Kerr said it the best. Only way Thunder can win this series is to make it into 'street ball' when you put your most athletic line-up on the floor for maximum minutes and just switch everything. If it leaves Ibaka on Parker, deal with it. I think this is the best compliment you can give a basketball team. That the only way you can beat them is playing outside of traditional basketball.
Dont buy into that Ibaka crap, that is not the reason they lost. By the start of the 4th, KD was done, you could see it so clear in vivid colors. the guys was running on his last fumes. He coudn't beat a 34 yrs old[but fresh] SJax to any spot. He jacked up 2 horrible shots and that's it.
But I think it was almost by design. As they went all-in MAYBE trying to use that rust to their advantage by winning the game by the 4th. And they really almost did, they were up 9. But I guess it took a bigger toll than expected, combining with the Spurs starting to play Spurs basketball it just wasn't enough. Guys forget to Ibaka is not a good screener and not a good PnR defender. He is a weak side monster but you cant play weak side if you are playing the pick'nroll. That was the logic behind Brook's actions, in my opinion.
@Fuzzy Logic You can shuffle you feet. if you 'get' it in the chest without moving left or right, you should get a charge call. I agree that is up to the refs, but each time Westbrook or Harden marched down the lane then hit a defender straight in the chest. It's just look very obvious of a call.
Harden and Westbrook were awful not finding the shooter and in the corner time and time again. Thabo and Fish are good enough shooters to get some respect and touches from Harden or Westbrook. Forcing it against THIS team is a bad bad idea.
1 year, 9 months ago on Practice Report: Bouncing back, moving on
Have you guys watched the 4th quarter?! KD and Russ were absolutely EXHAUSTED. What is the first organ that gets less blood when you're tired? your brain. They couldn't make plays because they lost their legs.
This series is special in regard to how hard Thunder needs to work defensively. This is not the give-the-rock-to-Kobe/Dirk ball. Every guy on the floor for the Spurs is a threat for 48 minutes, you just can't hide KD in defense anymore for him to rest. a tired KD is a bad KD, so Scotty[...doesn't know...] must give him more rest or Thunder will lose every 4th quarter in this series.
1 year, 9 months ago on Monday Bolts – 5.28.12
@BRY BRY Spurs are 4th in DefEff, to Thunder 8th in the playoffs. While the Spurs played Jazz(4th in OffEff in the regular season) and Clips(7th), Thunder played Lakers(11th) and Mavs(20th). So Thunder should have been better defensively and yet they are not. That speaks highly of the Spurs defense in my opinion.[It is VERY underrated]
1 year, 9 months ago on Thursday Bolts – 5.24.12
@lemonparade4 @aise0603 The idea is that the Spurs are actually have a much bigger advantage over OKC if Diaw or Bonner are in the game. Simply put, they are both threats from deep while Perkins and Ibaka aren't. So Spurs basically gain a spacing advantage which is really crucial. By playing Ibaka at Center and KD at the 4, Diaw or Bonner are out and teams are evenly spaced.
1 year, 9 months ago on Wednesday Bolts - 5.23.12
@aise0603 yes. because of KD.