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@Say my Name @gravey94 I'll take door #3 Monty, what do I win...LOL! In my defense, it took so long because I didn't think I needed to state the obvious, that Hank is one of the best, if not THE best, goalies in the league.
4 hours, 47 minutes ago on Lundqvist to Be Extended for 7 Years, $8+ Million Per
Whatever the deal they talked about was, I'm pretty sure it was not a win-win. Can't imagine Sather giving them MDZ unless he got a damn good return, which was probably some of their recently drafted yoots.
8 hours, 57 minutes ago on Rangers/Islanders Talk Del Zotto?
Clearly his new mask is created from a new Tony Stark created element that is more valuable than Gold, Diamonds, and Platinum combined. It's aptly named Hankidium and it disorients shooters as they approach Hank. Strangely, it has the opposite effect on Michael Del Zotto where he can shoot with amazing accuracy.
10 hours, 22 minutes ago on Lundqvist to Be Extended for 7 Years, $8+ Million Per
@Say my Name You're looking at it wrong from a stats standpoint. There is not a goalie in the league that's in the top 3 of those 2 stats EVERY year. Hank has been in the top 10 GAA for 6 of the past 7 completed seasons. The only other goalie that sniffs that number is Fatso at 4 of 7. SV%, Hank is in top 10 5 of past 7 completed seasons. 2 guys were 4 of 7, Kiprusoff and Vokun. Many of the "leaders" in that site you provided, were 1 hit wonders as far as great seasons. Hank has been by far the most consistent performer in the period you looked at. So I don't think that site really helped your case ;-)
11 hours, 23 minutes ago on Lundqvist to Be Extended for 7 Years, $8+ Million Per
@Say my Name @gravey94 Got it. I don't agree about Hank because I think even when he begins to decline he'll still be markedly better than anyone they can sign on the market and I don't think they save enough not signing him to markedly improve their offense/toughness.
13 hours, 1 minute ago on Nothing Going On With Callahan Extension
I think Say My Name just became a Curling fan...LOL!!
First off, how pathetic does this make Brooks look? He's been the Rangers beat writer for what 25 years? He comes out saying just 3 days ago saying there is no movement and now Dreger scoops him. Man, that's rough!
Secondly, did anyone HONESTLY believe that the Rangers were going to get Hank to sign for 5 years? I'm actually surprised it was only 7.
And finally, looking at what other goalies are making right now, this deal is not out of line. Rinne has a $7M cap hit through 2019, Rask is $7.5M through 2021, Price is $6.8M through 2018, Ward is $6.7M through 2016, Crawford is $6.5M through 2020. Seriously, it seems like most everyone would have been satisfied with a 7 year deal at $6M per. Is it really worth letting a goalie of Hank's caliber walk so we can sign a 2nd or 3rd tier goalie and then another 3rd or 4th line player? If letting Hank go would have meant saving $8.5M in cap space, it MIGHT have made sense, but considering another competent goalie would cost a minimum of $5M per, it would really only save enough for a bottom 6 player. I'm OK with this deal as I don't think it hamstings the Rangers future.
14 hours, 37 minutes ago on Lundqvist to Be Extended for 7 Years, $8+ Million Per
@Say my Name I'm curious to your thinking. You've made it clear that you don't think signing Hank long term is a good idea. What do you think would be a good idea beyond not signing him? What would be your plan for putting together a team that can compete for the Cup in the near future? Not calling you out, just curious.
16 hours, 18 minutes ago on Nothing Going On With Callahan Extension
@Say my Name @shoot_the_goalie @gravey94 Hank is a draw, not only to fans but also to potential free agents. Most players are not money hungry, they want to win. Sure they all want to play in NY, but if we have Devan Dubnyk in goal, it makes playing in NY a helluva lot less attractive. I do think you backed into another more realistic option, in my estimation. I loved the Nash trade when it was made because it was a steal. However, I never thought he would be a good fit in NY. he's got an almost $8M cap hit for the next 5 years. There's probably a better market for trading him and paying Hank. They would certainly need to replace the scoring somehow, but maybe they do it with a few players rather than just one.
1 day, 8 hours ago on Nothing Going On With Callahan Extension
@KreiderisTheChosenOne If they were signed, I'd say there would be a slight possibility. Given they're both UFAs...not a snowball's chance. I like the thinking though!
1 day, 10 hours ago on Senators, Blackhawks & Bruins Scouts Attended Last Night's Game
@Kevin DeLury @gravey94 Or maybe they were scouting a package of Hank, Cally, and Girardi for a 4-way trade where the Rangers would end up with Karlsson, Toews, and Rask.
1 day, 12 hours ago on Senators, Blackhawks & Bruins Scouts Attended Last Night's Game
Could have just as easily been scouting the Jets.
@Say my Name @gravey94 Yes, but not signing Cally and/or Hank will more than likely result in a dip in revenues from attendance of fans and the all mighty suites, and will also cause a dip in merchandising. Ask the Wilpons what they expect from their gate revenue next year now that it's know that Matt Harvey will not be pitching. The Rangers have $26M in Cap revenue locked for next year. Projected cap is around $70M. If they think that Hank and Cally are important to maintaining revenue, I would bet the house that they will sign them and worry about the consequences down the road. Sather seems to be pretty prudent with these types of negotiations and he is not nostalgic. If he thinks signing Hank and Cally give the team the best chance to win a Cup or multiple Cups in the next 5 years, then he will take the chance and overpay. I have to believe that Sather cares about the product of his efforts and his eventual legacy.
I firmly believe that you need a strong core in any sport to win. Blackhawks have it, Patriots have it, Heat have it, Yankees had it, etc. A core of Nash, Cally, McDonagh, Stepan, Hank, and possibly Kreider is pretty damn good. My guess is that's what Sather is doing and will then try to build the pieces around those players, ala Chicago.
1 day, 13 hours ago on Nothing Going On With Callahan Extension
This team hasn't won a Cup in almost 20 years. In that time, they've had exactly 2 GMs and 1 owner. They were recently rated the 2nd most valuable NHL franchise. Any deals with Cally, Hank, or anyone else have ZERO to do with winning and EVERYTHING to do with making money. Dolan does not give a crap where this team finishes every year, as long as they make him money. The only hope is that Sather has some winning pride left where he actually cares about the legitimacy of the team he is putting on the ice and not just whether it makes him money.
1 day, 15 hours ago on Nothing Going On With Callahan Extension
@Say my Name @gravey94 No I got all your points, you just didn't make good ones. And it takes a lot more than a condescending know-it-all to get me riled up. Trust me, if you were anywhere near insulting me, you would know it. Have a nice day :-)
2 days, 12 hours ago on Lundqvist Contract Talks Have Not Progressed
Everyone's talking about Hank's reaction, but doesn't this move put some pressure on Talbot as well...starting over the #1, continue win streak, struggling opponent? Seems like it could get in his head to try and do too much. Will be interesting to see how he responds.
2 days, 12 hours ago on Talbot Gets Second Straight Start Tonight
@Wallace1 Not sure about "easily" but he'd be worth a shot!
2 days, 14 hours ago on Asst. GM Gorton Sits With Scouts During Canucks Game
@Chris M @gravey94 I'm not opposed to trading him if they can't sign him. However, I just don't see how they get even close to his value unless they get creative with the trade. The Islanders make sense, but there is no way Sather trades him to a division rival, especially not them. The other teams with high picks/prospects just make no sense since they have so many other needs (e.g., Calgary, Edmonton, Florida) . And I just don't think Sather is going to trade a Hank for a prospect of 2 and the 23rd pick in a draft. Not at this point in his career.
2 days, 14 hours ago on Lundqvist Contract Talks Have Not Progressed
@Say my Name Wow, you really are a legend in your own mind! Congrats on being the smartest person you know, but it must be an awful burden to have to deal with the rest of us. You're absolutely right, my whole rationale for trading Hank is Talbot, when my 1st sentence was "Unless there is no possible way he can sign him, Sather is not trading Hank". To most that would mean that the only way Sather trades Hank is if he can't sign him, but in your higher plane of thinking it clearly means that it has to do with Talbot. Brilliant! Getting something of equal or greater value back is the end game of any trade. When you have a goalie who has all-time numbers, I think it's probably a little more paramount to ensure you get a great return, particularly when he's in his prime and the face of the team, but I guess that's just my sophomoric thinking. And your Red Sox example, yea, they had a historic collapse in 2011 and lost 94 games in 2012. Trading unhappy players making a lot of money is just a little different than trading the backbone of your team, but maybe that's just me. Great insights though, thanks for being you!
Unless there is no possible way he can sign him, Sather is not trading Hank for these reasons:
1) Sather is not hockey dumb. He's awful with a checkbook for players not on his team, but he knows you just don't trade away a goalie like Hank unless you get equal or greater value back, and that ain't happening unless he gets Stamkos. What he is is painfully patient. He's basically letting Hank demonstrate his value to the team. It's going to be a game of chicken, but Hank has the real leverage.
2) Cam Talbot has started 9 NHL games. He means NOTHING to these negotiations. People saying that his play makes Hank expendable are just plain wrong. It's akin to saying that Shane Spencer in 1998 made Bernie Williams or Paul O'Neil expendable. How'd he work out?
3) Dolan don't care about hockey Booma! Dolan cares about $$$$. Hank puts fannies in the seats, fans in his jerseys, and money in Dolan's pockets. To paraphrase the great Yogurt..."Merchandising, merchandising, where the real money from the team is made. Lundqvist-the Jersey, Lundqvist-the Coloring Book, Lundqvist-the Lunch box, Lundqvist-the Breakfast Cereal, Lundqvist-the Flame Thrower! Unless there's a Superstar of Stamkos stature coming back, Hank stays.
4) They are not blowing up this team. You don't go out and get Rick Nash, sign Ryan McDonagh and Derek Stepan, and then decide to start over. There will be changes to the roster, but they are not blowing this up.
2 days, 16 hours ago on Lundqvist Contract Talks Have Not Progressed
Steven Stamkos didn't start scoring goals in bunches until around his 50th game. Chris Kreider has played 43 in his career. I'm just sayin'.....LOL!
3 days, 18 hours ago on Rangers 5, Canucks 2