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So there are 3 playing spots and then 3 "black aces" spots, right.  I'd say 3 of the 4 of Stepniak, Malone, Glass, and Lombardi will make the team.  Maybe all 4 make it with 3 of them being aces.  Most likely 1 or 2 will be a bottom 6 and the other 1 or 2 will be part of the black aces.  No way they're gonna have a young kid sitting in the rafters when he could be playing in Hartford.  Of the kids, the edge absolutely has to go to Miller and Fast since they both have experience playing with the men.  I'm gonna say Kristo is a dark horse to have a good camp and earn a spot.  Any way it shakes out, these are great "problems" to have for a team that went to the SCF.  What about the top line RW, is that up for grabs too ;-)

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@Josh-CK Gave up on the FREE LINDBERG campaign pretty quickly!

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Welp, I think it's safe to say that the days of 4 or 5 year deals for good to top players are gone.  From a numbers standpoint, 7 years $42M seems a bit high, but 7 years $35M would seem like a bargain.  Staal has 7 seasons under his belt and has missed about 15% of the potential games over that time.  So now he's going into his prime, which will likely last 4, maybe 5, years until a significant decline.  I think 7 years is just too much of a risk for a guy who may already have his best days behind him AND has has 2 MAJOR injuries.  My bet is that unless Sather gets him to agree to a club friendly deal, he'll wait out the 1st half of the season to see either how some of the young D perform or how the market develops and then he'll either trade Staal or get him lower.

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@Josh-CK You're out of the No Bash Nash contest!  I think that means 3 blog readers are left in the contest.

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@erikNYRtc Go get em' head blog scout!

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Wow, what a snipe by Haggerty!  That'd be nice to see on the big club, a guy with size who can shoot from the right side ;-)  Haggerty's got 10 shots in 3 games!  Me likey!!  A shooter with a shot!!!


Buchnevich....holy crap!  Haggerty's was nice, but he's playing against kids.  This kid is playing against men and makes them look like kids.  Maybe the Rangers finally got a later round steal from a draft...you know, besides Hank.

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@KevinTheNYRBlog @gravey94 Ahhh, thanks.  I guess we'll see him in camp then.

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@erikNYRtc Excellent!!!  Thanks for the insights!!!  Scoresheet doesn't tell the whole story so it's tough trying to piece together info.  It's great to have a Ny Rangers Blog scout on the scene!  Well done!!

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Definitely nice to hear Duclair, Haggerty, and Hayes are having decent tournaments, as well as the goalies.  Skapski sounds like he's legit already between this tourney and last season.  Will he be in Hartford this season?  Also sounds like Noreau impressed here.  That would be a nice surprise.  Haven't heard a peep about Kantor, St. Croix, Bodie, or Tambellini.  I'm guessing they haven't gotten on the scoresheet too much, but any idea how they've played? 

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#24 is not in the rafters, so it's just another number.  I gave up on the hallowed number thing the second Nathan Lafayette donned #22, although Bure being allowed to take #9 did bother me.  An injury-prone winger that hits a lot...sounds like he'll be right at home wearing #24 ;-)


As far as the cocaine and drinking stuff.  I know it's a different world and all, but some of the most beloved NY athletes were 1,000x worse than this 1 incident Malone went through, yet they are still hallowed and held up as all-time greats (Babe Ruth, Mickey Mantle, Lawrence Taylor, etc.).  He made a mistake, he paid his price, and now he has a chance to rebuild.  Good on him.  Of course, he's a public figure, so all ridicule is fair game, especially if its really funny!

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@AnnoyingJoe @gravey94 Randy Moller...Sylvain Lefebvre...Maxim Kondratiev...Red Berenson...Jamie Pushor...Joe Zanussi...Chris Kostopoulos...Jim Leavins...Warren Miller (who knew?)...Pierre Plante.


The legacy of #24 is clear on Broadway!!

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@smoothyv @AnnoyingJoe @KevinTheNYRBlog @gravey94 That would be totally awesome if they left the letter on it!!

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I heard Malone is wearing #24 on ice this morning.  That's a good number for him, although I don't remember who the last Ranger was that wore it.  I think it was Jay Wells or Michel Petit.

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Dammit Kevin!!  Now I'm pissed again about that King interference!!!  Rangers had sooooo many chances to put that series away early.  Son of a rockfrickemwackmtricklocksmoke!!!


So let me get this straight, a player can now get a misconduct penalty for interference??  Um yea, that makes total sense.  And I don't get the kicking thing.  They should just make it legal if it goes in off the skate.  What's the big deal?  It's not like it's a big advantage to be able to kick it in.  If a D-man is able to interfere with your stick before the puck even gets there, then kicking the puck should be OK.  The way it is, it's still a very subjective rule.  As long as you don't throw a puck in the goal, it should count.

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I really don't see the risk here.  Yea, he was arrested for coke, but if this was habitual don't you think MSL would be well aware of this and not put his neck on the line for the guy??  He's injury-prone, but maybe playing a 3rd line role would limit those and the dude can produce.  The last 2 years were not good for him, but prior to that he was a solid point producer and grit guy.  Basically, the Rangers got a Ryan Callahan type player for less than they paid John Moore.  

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@readjunk My brother makes this monster egg nog with lighter fluid!

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@Josh-CK If MSL puts up 70+ points this season, he's not taking a discount in pay.  If he has a season that warrants a $3M-$4M contract next year, he won't be back, not at 40 years old with kids knocking on the roster door.  I'd say it's all or nothing for MSL.  Either he produces a ton and gets his same $$ for another 2 years, or he's done.

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Every player in the NHL is 1 hit away from ending their career.  It's the nature of the beast.  I don't recall Richter ever having being out with a concussion before he cracked his skull and had to retire.  Staal should be signed...PERIOD!!  A deal like Girardi's will look like a bargain 2 years from now.  Defense wins in this and any league.  You don't just get rid of a top pair D-man because he had a concussion.  Sign him and you have Staal, Girardi, McDonagh, and Klein locked up for the next 4 years, with some promising kids in the mix.  I'll take that in a nano-second, as I'm sure most, if not all, teams would.  Having a top pair defenseman signed though his prime at a decent cap hit with a goalie like Hank behind him is a HUGE bonus!!

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Good news about Moore.  Ball's in his court.  If he puts up this year, he gets paid.  Simple as that!


Sather's relatively recent success is really not all that surprising.  He put together the last great NHL dynasty in a small market, and even won a Cup after #99 was traded.  He's always been a very good small market GM, who was not so good in the free agent department.  He was god awful from 2000 - 2005 for the Rangers, but once the cap was put in place he went back to being a bit frugal and has done well trying to keep to a smaller budget.  I know, we all kill him for Gomez, Drury, Redden, and Richards.  Personally, I thought the signings of Gomez and Drury were great at the time, I didn't like the Redden signing, and I thought the Richards signing was a HUGE error.  Turns out I was wrong about all except Redden.  And I doubt I was alone feeling that way about those signings.  Sather's had a recent surge of success, which is nice.  I personally think that he'll step down after MSL and Boyle are done or if the Rangers win a Cup.  The Rangers have a contending team right now, so it really doesn't bother me to have Slats as GM...as long as he doesn't do something incredibly stupid on the trade or UFA fronts.

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@IhaveawaiteratMSG @scrangersfan Yep, that's what I figured at season's end, plus Sather has wanted him for years!  Add to that, Hank is in his prime.  Getting 2 or 3 productive years out of people like Boyle and MSL could go a long way to getting the Cup, but it doesn't hinder the development of the younger players.

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@johnnyb3910 @gravey94 Seriously!  The one job a parent has is to make sure your kids have a good life, and it doesn't end until you die.  How can any parent sit there and watch their son get his face based in night after night and think it's his only choice???  Hmmm, I dunno, dad's a cop, maybe young Derek would do well as a cop too!

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The encouraging news is that someone had a shot hard enough to hurt someone's foot!  Whomever it is, put them on the point immediately for the PP and sign them to a 7 year deal!


As far as the Boogaard stuff, c'mon now, stop trying to blame the Rangers' medical staff for this.  In reading through that NY Times article for the 3rd time, there's a part where it said Bogaard learned that team medical doctors, who are simply contracted and not part of some group employed internally by the team, rarely know what prescriptions are being supplied by other doctors.  And all it says is that his dad was surprised to see so many bottles from Rangers' doctors.  So what is that 2, 5, 10, more?  The Rangers knew and sent him to rehab.  I seriously doubt that there was zero contact between them and the rehab facility, so maybe those prescriptions were meant to ween him off the dependency.  Cold turkey is not really an effective treatment for most addicts.  Could the doctors have handled it better...sure.  Are they culpable in his death...I don't think so.  CTE killed this man, just like it killed Junior Seau, Ray Easterling, Rick Rypien, Wade Belak, Chris Benoit, and Andrew Martin.  What killed Derek Boogaard was the enablement and encouragement of using his face as a punching bag and cheering for it.  Not sure about everyone else, but I read through that NY Times story and I can tell you this, I was APPALLED that parents would not only condone, but actually encourage and enable their son to go out and fight so they could someday play in the NHL.  It's disgusting and they are as much to blame, and probably more so, that anyone else in this.  THEY are the ones who had the chance to prevent this before Boogaard even became a teenager.  Everyone else that came after (coaches, leagues, teams, fans) are all responsible for encouraging it to continue and give him DOZENS, yes DOZENS of concussions.  Hell, Sidney Crosby got 1 concussion and wasn't allowed to play for a year, same with Marc Staal.  Yet Boogaad gets put back on the ice within days or less.  Blaming 2 guys that enabled the last nail in the coffin is a joke.  People are dying because sports leagues and teams don't want to acknowledge that concussions can kill.  But I guess a few deaths every few years is a small price to pay for all the revenues that can be generated by bone-crushing hits or fights or pile-drivers.


Look, I'm not gonna lie, I get wrapped up in a good fight or a big hit as much as anyone when it happens.  But I am definitely at the point where I do not miss it at all when it doesn't happen.  I'd much prefer to see skill during a game than someone who gets their bell rung.  And I don't think this is a minority view anymore.  Stop trying to find the blame and just fix the damn issue y punishing the hell out of people for illegal dangerous plays and DON't allow athletes back on a field after a concussion for at least 2 months, increased for each successive concussion.  Sorry, life is just a little more important than TV revenues, IMHO.

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@betweentheworlds I got a feva, and the only prescription is more Ryans!

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Nice to hear that he seems to have improved skill-wise, but it's the dedication and commitment he showed by attending all the informals that's most encouraging.  He's looking like a kid that wants to take what's his, and he'll do just that if he keeps up the work ethic! 

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@BringBackBeukeboom So Tanner Glass = Doug the Thug?

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@JMK8363 @gravey94 No.  You have to be over the age of 23 and either have been traded at least once or played most of your career in the AHL/ECHL.  McIlrath is immune at this point, but he's getting nearer to the Kevin Crush danger zone!

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@KevinTheNYRBlog @gravey94 I think I blocked him out instead of left him out.

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Kevin, the Rangers and Wolfpack players have hired an attorney and filed an injunction against you.  You are hereby forbidden from having any and all man-crushes from this day forward on any player in the Rangers' organization.  They regret this action but feel it is warranted given the recent history of Sean Avery, Brandon Mashinter, and now Dan Carcillo.  Unless, of course you are requested by fans to have a man crush on a certain player who is no longer deemed fit to wear Rangers' blue.  I shall not name names.

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@AnnoyingJoe @gravey94 That will be fun for sure.  I don't know though, Kreider may have trouble beating MDZ to the outside with his speed.......buwahahahahaha!!!!!!!!  

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Wow, Hextall's got MDZ all figured out!  MDZ is a fantastic fit for a team that lacks any semblance of defensive presence.  Should be fun to watch.  He might have a better shot seeing if Michael Jordan would like to take a shot at hockey or maybe Bo Jackson's hip is healed enough to play D.  The Flyers will be a mess defensively!  Nice to see the informal group expanding.  I'm guessing the missing ones are either still in Canada or Sweden, which is understandable at this point, but it's back to school time so they need to wrap it up and get their butts back to NY pretty soon.

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@brian2686 I think he's talking to you Say My Name :-)

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"Applauding scoring chances"...and you thought the Garden was quiet before...badum psh!  Sorry, too easy to resist!


Listen, I never liked the Nash trade from the start as I didn't think he looked like an athlete that would thrive in the NY atmosphere and I never thought of him as an elite player.  That being said, I root (and root hard) for ANY player that dons the NY Rangers sweater, regardless of their performance.  Sure, there are times when I would rather see a player moved or no longer be on the team (e.g., Gomez, Drury, Redden, Poti, etc.), but I still root for them as long as they are on the team.  I think that's every fan's job.  Sure, people pay money and can do what they like.  I prefer to nurture things I pay money for or to see, not to destroy them so I feel better about myself.  Let's Go Rangers!!!!!

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Um...well...I uh....ya know....um...I can almost do a cartwheel and I can just about touch my knee with my fingertips standing!  Not sure I'm ready for the NHL, but I think I'd kill it on Wipe-Out! 

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The vets, I'm so surprised that they didn't show.  Rest is better for them at this point.  They have training camp to get their legs back.  Awesome though to see Hank, Kreider, and 2/3 of the 2nd line there.  Those guys are probably itching to get the season started so they can get back to the Finals!  A bit surprising to me that only Miller and the 3 H's showed.  If you're a kid trying to make this club (or even a borderline vet) why not show and get some shots on the best goalie in the league?  It would have been cool to see guys like Borque, Lindberg, Kristo, etc. there.  I think Hrivik might be there to work on staying with this club.  I had a lot of hope for that kid but he hasn't taken that next step.

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I'm guessing Nicholas Cage, Johnny Depp, and Eddie Murphy would be his top 3 choices for a coaching staff.  His team would definitely feel the need, the need for speed, and probably be pretty good at gay beach volleyball...not that there's anything wrong with that.  I'm surprised by this though, I would think all his energy is being put into Beverly Hills Cop 4, Pirates of the Caribbean 4, and Bad Boys 3.  I smell an Oscar!

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@Say my Name @gravey94 I thought for sure the Frodrick Von Fronkensteen, shipwrecked millionaire with 6 other castaways, and the Mezozoic era would give it away.  What is 3 people who have never been in my kitchen Alex!

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@genetics73 @gravey94 Clearly they didn't have vowels in ancient times!

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You can never have too many Ryans.  "Ryan" is actually a Phoenician derivative of the word goblet, which signified great glory and celebration in the Mezozoic era.  Th Duke of Derby, Frodrick Von Fronkensteen, was found on a deserted island with 6 other people.  One of those people was a millionaire named Frederick Stanley, who was also shipwrecked with his wife, Edna.  Frederick and Edna adopted Frodrick and renamed him Ryan.  When Frederick donated a trophy to the Canadian amateur hockey league in 1892, he called it the Ryan Cup, in honour of his adopted son.  But Ryan insisted it be named after his doting adopted father.  Hence the Stanley Cup was born.  Clearly Sather is trying to capture some of the Mojo associated with "Ryan" since he had to trade away that other guy.  Savvy move for sure!

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Great write up!!


I'm a Mets fan, but I still know what a successful plan looks like.  The Rangers remind me of what happened with the Yankees in the mid 90's.  They were a decent team that saw success under Buck Showalter, but they couldn't win the World Series.  Showalter changed the philosophy though by concentrating on building the farm system.  Then Torre comes in with his calm demeanor and no track record and a dynasty was born because of that farm system.  With the Rangers, Torts came in and completely changed the mindset of the team and the organization.  As much crap as we gave him for his handling of Kreider, he did give kids a shot when they earned it (Stepan, McDonagh, Hags, MDZ, etc.).  Now we have a calm demeanor coach with no championships and a pretty good young core that's tasted some success.  This could be NY history repeating itself and it's a very exciting time to be a Rangers fan!

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@johnnyb3910 @gravey94 @IcyCup I think the reason people are intertwining these 2 is because Hayes is "supposedly" NHL ready and was probably promised a legit shot to break into the line-up THIS season, while Kristo signed a 1 year deal and is essentially a UFA at the end of the season (per Adam's post from yesterday).  It would be a lot different if we were talking about JT Miller and Jesper Fast, but these are 2 older prospects who have unique situations.  So this very well could be a one or the other proposition.

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@johnnyb3910 Have to disc agree a bit. Hayes has seen his college PPG go up pretty significantly every year.  His season last year was stellar, but his progression in college has been outstanding.  Yes, he played with Gaudreau, but his production went up 30 points last year playing on a line with Hayes.  Sounds like it could be both helping one another, and their 3rd line mate was in a defensive/checking role, freeing them up for more offense.  I don't get caught up in the hype over the kid until I see him play against the top dogs, but he is a legit prospect.


As far as Kristo, I'm not so sure.  Yes, he led the Wolfpack in scoring with 43 points at the age of 24, in ONE season in the AHL.  Kris Newbury put up 60 points at that same age, and we know how his career has gone.  Kristo had a nice collegiate career as well, but he's 24.  Stepan, Hagelin, McDonagh, Kreider...all college players who established themselves as legit top flight NHL players by the age of 24.  Maybe Kristo will as well and just needs his shot, but Miller and Fast were both ahead of him last year on the cal-up chart.  He NEEDS to have a stellar camp, if he's not already on the block.  To me, he's got "potential bust" written on him in all caps, more than Hayes at this point.

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Let's face facts here, Kristo was taken 5 spots after Stepan.  The only player that looks to be any type of impact player taken after him is Adam Henrique and there are only a handful of guys that MIGHT have bottom jobs for a few years.  If Kristo doesn't light it up in training camp this season, I think it's a pretty safe bet to say that he'll be a pretty decent AHL player.  Since Christian Thomas doesn't look to be a high impact player either, the trade for Kristo was a no risk gamble that just didn't pan out.


Another thing to note, when this trade was made, a lot of people were calling it a coup for the Rangers and putting him in the top 6.  I think maybe it's a lesson to temper expectations on these types of players (Hayes included) until we actually see them perform consistently with the big boys.  There are less than 700 NHL players in total.  That's not a great percentage of prospects that "make it" considering there are 350 or so drafted each year.

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@Herman_NYRBlog @gravey94 He's got 10 points in 56 games.  He's been solid, but he hasn't shown much to convince that he can sustain a top 6 role in the NHL.  Hayes looks to be a solid player too and may actually have a better upside since he's a bit older and has played with top end talent.  Time will tell.  All I'm saying is that putting him behind Miller does not scream top 6 to me.  But based on other assessments, perhaps he would actually be the Rangers' top prospect.  I guess we'll find out in a few weeks what he's really got!

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This sounds like good news, but I'm just curious about something.  Adam, if you would have had him 3rd behind Miller, does that mean he's a bit of a lesser player than Miller?  If so, how much of a coup is this really, since JT has not exactly lit the world on fire to this point.


Personally, I like the fact that the Rangers got younger with some talent instead of going after some over the hill vet. Here's to hoping they caught lightning in a bottle!

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@cb1 Also...Don Maloney, Richter, Greschner, Erixon, Weight, Sandstrom, Tyutin, Sauer, Amonte, Beezer, Zubov, Turcotte, Granato, Miller (Kelly), and Nemchinov.  Not bad at all.

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@BringBackBeukeboom @gravey94 @KevinTheNYRBlog The report on Jessiman was that he had size AND hands to go with it.  Injuries derailed him completely and he was never able to recover.  He's a lot like Billy Beane who was a 5 tool draft for the Mets but never panned out due to injuries.  Maybe Jessiman will coin "Moneypuck" ;-)

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@KevinTheNYRBlog @gravey94 Oh I'm not saying I wouldn't have loved fro them to take those players, but the only difference maker to me is Giroux.  And I don't count the 2003 draft because it's too painful.

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That Jessiman pick is indefensible.  He was the Rangers' Todd Blackledge or Sam Bowie!


But let's be real here.  Sure there have been better players the Rangers could have drafted.  But from 1995 - 2011 there have been 303 players drafted after #10 (not including the aforementioned draft).  Technically, there have been 22 all-stars, but realistically the only top notch players in those 22 picks have been Briere, Hossa, Green, Kopitar, Rask, Karlsson, Semin, Ward, Staal, McDonagh, Tanguay, Williams, and Eberle.  So that's 13 players out of 303 or a 4% chance.  The Rangers have 2 of them on their roster right now, which is 2 players in 17 years or about 12%.  Sounds to me like they're doing 3x as good as the average.  Their problem has been not having a top 10 pick, and even when they did (Brendl/Lundmark, Montoya, Malhotra, Blackburn), the draft has been less than stellar to crappy anyway.  So their drafting has not bee awful, particularly since Clark took over, but their seasons have not been awful enough when they were not making the playoffs.

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@queensbee @Say my Name Riiiiiight, it's the suit you love ;-)

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