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Great write up. Nice of Haye to actually perform up to his capabilities, even if Chisora isn't any good. I'd have interest in a fight with Vitali. Of course, my standards are low.
Carlos,
I couldn't believe Bayliss didn't stop it earlier. Khan did the full Zab Judah chicken dance minus falling down a second time from one knock down. I think Khan clearly has the ability to stink the joint out against fighters like this as he did against Kotelnyk, but he clearly won't.
Carlos,
If you combined these two characters, you might have a fighter worth a damn. But honestly, if I'm around the computer tomorrow I'll probably hit up a link and watch this. And I'm hoping for the worst. I can not imagine a scenario where this event doesn't make me laugh.
"Hobgoblin of hemoglobin" you should trademark that before some blogger steals it.
I'm with you on the Chavez Martinez comparisons. And I am a Martinez fan. Martinez is clearly a better fighter, he's won more conclusively. But that only makes the point more emphatic: what sense does it make to hold Chavez to a higher standard than Martinez?
@thenonpareil Is there anything better in post fight press conference history than Larry Holmes' drop kick on Trevor Berbick? His post fight performance after losing to Spinks, when he argued with Marciano's brother was fantastic as well.
I understand why the casual boxing fan and sports fan was unimpressed by Larry Holmes title reign. But I can't understand real boxing fans who don't find Holmes a compelling figure. The bitterness and resentment, his angry rants and observations, and certainly his skills are all interesting to me. I remember a Bill Simmons article some years ago where he and Malcolm Gladwell mocked Holmes for being so foolish as to invest in real estate in his home town, opposed to somewhere more profitable. It's weird how people assess this guy's career.
@thenonpareil I agree completely. I know that its a matter of age, his style and the ring wars, as well has Pacquiao's tendency to overtrain, but was there a tipping point? I think each welterweight fight took something out of him, but it seemed to me he slowed down after the Margarito fight. I think because of the savage beating he put on Margarito people forget Manny took a lot of punishment to the body from a much much larger man.
Great point. HBO has tossed out monopoly money for years regardless of worthiness and no one cares anymore about getting right. I do love being lectured about how to score a fight, though. As a life long fan, that is a lot of fun and makes nights like Saturday all the more enjoyable.
Carlos, what did you think about the Pacquiao's performance? He's slowed down a bit, which we knew, but I thought he was surprisingly tired towards the last several rounds.
Shit, that was a fun read. Thanks. "I fuck he up," indeed had me rolling- along with about 10 other lines.
Can you recall a worse decision than Winky Wright's in turning down the rematch with Taylor, taking the fight 10 pounds north with Hopkins? It seemed impossible to win a decision against Taylor at that point, but I would still have figured Wright would have won the rematch. He could have tooled on Pavlik and Miranda and whoever else in some interesting scraps for a lot of money.
Am I a bad person for wanting to see a Klitschko Tarver fight?
Showtime is irredeemable. They can't succeed on a smaller budget playing servant to the haymon and company.
Tremendous.
I was a more casual fan during Tapia's days. I didn't realize people consider him one of if not the best 115 pound fighter ever.
this really was a great preview of a fight that was not easy to imagine given the styles. But you nailed it.
@thenonpareil My grandmother was a big fan of Baer when she was young. She enjoyed the article as well. You're killing the 90 year old demo, Carlos.
great stuff Carlos. thanks
I'm not sure what I was more surprised by- the respect Mayweather gave Cotto during the fight (I couldnt believe Cotto kept tapping Mayweather's gloves after the Ortiz debacle) or the fact that Cotto employed effective defense for the first time I can recall. This was a really enjoyable fight. I thought Cotto would get some things done early. It was pretty surprising to see him make adjustments and win the middle rounds. But you could see him tiring heavily in that big 8th round. I saw a slightly closer fight than HBO did.
Mayweather will no longer be able to stink the joint out. I think this opens up a lot of possibilities for decent fights. Kahn is clearly very beatable, and I'd expect Mayweather to knock him out, but with the speed difference in favor of Kahn I think its an exciting fight that makes Floyd fight even further out of his welterweight style.
As a big fan of Cotto I can't help but wonder where his career would have gone had he hooked up with a trainer like this years ago. I think if he had this training for the Pacquiao fight, for instance, that is a fight he have won.
Great preview. I think Cotto gets some things accomplished early before the wheels come off. I do think even a shopworn Cotto is the best offensive fighter Mayweather has seen in a long time, and I'd like to believe that Diaz may have Cotto performing better than we think is possible. But as you say his defense is mediocre (at best) and he marks up awfully easily.
Carlos, if Mayweather didn't "retire" after Hatton, and fought Cotto next, how do you think that fight would have gone down?
Carlos, I knew you couldn't resist talking about this blockbuster.
I'd like Dawson to be a fighter I can root for. But he under-performs from my perspective, and I've had about enough of that. I'll be skipping this one live and I'll rely on one of my friends to inform me of I should download and watch the actual fight, or just the post fight interviews.
Carlos,
For starters, I didn't see any of these fights.
Usually in boxing you we understand the nonsensical actions by its power brokers. Their moves don't make great business or boxing sense, but they keep the racket going, keep a decent stream of profit by giving the fans the bare minimum we require. None of that applies to what is going on at showtime. This can't last forever, I would assume. It seems like they are taking the last showtime dollars available to the sport and handing it out to friends.
Can I steal the Aqua Shave line? I'll give you credit even if it kills.
Count me among those who thought Linares was going to be a tremendous fighter. Trying to predict future greats is foolish. lesson learned! I still think hes fun to watch but it clearly isn't going to happen for him.
Good article. I'll actually watch this fight now
This preview and the Salido Lopez recap are absolute gems. thanks