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@Wolfenstein @WallyWorld Well, I mean the 2004 season....some of the early years, but they also had their share of malcontents on those teams as well (that neither Flip nor KG could handle might I add)
I think KG is an exception because of his stature as an NBA player and a Timberwolf ....look no further than the way Rubio and Wiggins reacted when they found out he was returning....and then think about that in terms of the difference between KG and K-Douche. He will command a level of respect we have never been able to fathom.
But as a general, non-KG principle I have always thought the vet mentor stuff was slightly overblown. I hope KG can instill some nastiness in Wiggins, and can maybe light a fire under Bennett though.
1 month, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://twolvesblog.com/2015/return-kg-brings-mixed-emotions.html
@DeROK82 Yep, after taking a lot of time to process this, the die hard in me can't possibly disagree.
@Wolfenstein Probably a poor word choice. Addressing simply as the emotional aspect and the basketball/team building aspect would have been a better approach, as I did not intend to imply that people who like the trade are irrational.
From a team-building/asset management perspective I can't think of one reason this is good. From an emotional/nostalgia standpoint, I love it. That aspect of it is currently winning the argument for me.
@Pants80 Yeah good point. There isn't even really path for him to get minutes. Why spend the pick? ANOTHER pick, as well. The Wolves now owe 2 when they will be entering a period in which adding to the roster will get more and more difficult.
1 month, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://twolvesblog.com/uncategorized/wolves-recent-trades-show-us.html
@chrisclarke2321 Thanks for stopping by Chris.
I don't find anything Mike said to be whiny. It was just honest. It can be challenging to offer perspective of a team that has been the worst in the league since they traded away Garnett, and by next year will overtake the Clippers as the worst franchise in the league. The bits on the ownership and all of that are spot on. Sometimes the coverage of this team can be a little vanilla and an airing of grievances is needed. A 15 game losing streak (the longest period of time in days without a win in team history), and 21 losses in 22 games shouldn't exactly result in glowing reviews. There are some blogs that do that. I find it disingenuous.
As for the players...I mean, have you seen the general putrid play of some of these "veteran leaders?" I refuse to get behind the "with Rubio player x is such and such" qualifier as the front office has had a gaping hole at point guard for two months and has done nothing to address it. Zach LaVine is so horrendous as a starting 1 that it is nearly impossible to win a game with him on the floor for half of a game.
Long term, by now, everyone should have a general idea of who should be around long term: Rubio, Wiggins, Dieng, Muhammad....Hummel when he is tip dunking :)...maybe LaVine as a 2, perhaps Troy Daniels and another obvious one I'm forgetting, but that's about it. If a modestly above average point guard makes this much of a negative difference on whether or not a player like Thad Young can play sound defense and choose a good shot, then that is cause for concern and worth mentioning. In any case, Mike has been one of the last people to discuss the huge disappointment of Thad among those who cover this team. He has been irrefutably terrible and his take is not new.
Again thanks for stopping by and if you want to type up your own opinion on the matter, you are welcome to do so.
2 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://twolvesblog.com/
@CollegeWolf Kurt Rambis.
4 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://twolvesblog.com/uncategorized/is-the-future-as-bright-as-we-think-discussing-current-concerns.html
@Daddyfatsax Thank you.
It is easy for me to get wishy washy on Flip the GM. It's not like he has been TERRIBLE. Most of the players he adds are pretty decent in many ways, just are overpaid. But I would probably be okay with him being GM if he gave up the coaching look. He has been okay in the draft when it comes to selecting a player (except LaVine), picking two useful players out of a horrible draft last year that are better than all of Kahn''s lottery non-Rubio picks for example. It is his process that is horrible/Kahnsian.
But as a coach, the guy has never succeeded in a meaningful way unless it is by virtue of personnel, and has lost his players three times INCLUDING HERE. As you said, he has just been around the block and probably views himself as a member of the "old-timer" circle of Pop/Karl/Adelman, et al. while they all laugh at him for instructing his players to fire up long two pointers and for not covering the most efficient shot in basketball on defense. The things he has this team doing are so ass-backwards and Rambis-ian that they are worth beating into the ground repeatedly in hopes that the pressure will finally get to him. It won't, of course.
And as or Taylor....right. That's it. Nothing more to add. Maddening.
The best prospects in the draft are a PG and two Centers. I love Pek and Dieng, but this Okafor character seems like he is going to be a monster
4 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://twolvesblog.com/uncategorized/flip-vs-mchale-in-mexico.html
MAN what a tough weekend. You hinted at it, but Mo Williams will quickly replace Barea as the most hot and cold/polarizing player on the Wolves.
Hopefully it is a good developmental stretch. Don't ride the vets too hard, even give GR3 some minutes here.
They really should make a deal to move an extra wing and perhaps bring in Gal Mekel, but the amount of veteran wings getting odd minutes is getting more and more awkward.
4 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://twolvesblog.com/uncategorized/brutality.html
@CollegeWolf @Pants80 @WallyWorld @Daddyfatsax @Dabonk I remember being excited when they got a first rounder for Flynn.....it went all down hill form there. Of course, hindsight played a big role in how good those players became...but Mirotic was HIGHLY touted.
4 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://twolvesblog.com/2014/game-4-flip-vs-kg-and-the-nyets.html
@CollegeWolf Which 2? tonight and Orlando would have to be it. They face off against Hou, New Orleans, Dallas and iIami as well. MAYBE they get Miami and New Orleans but I think the Hou game will be the ugliest.
@Pants80 @WallyWorld @Daddyfatsax Lost in all of this though is this single trade. Oh my goodness if he had stopped then and there...:
-The Wolves traded point guard Jonny Flynn, a future second-round pick and the 20th pick - Donatas Motiejunas - to Houston for center Brad Miller, the draft rights to No. 23 pick Nikola Mirotic and No. 38 Chandler Parsons and a future first-round pick.
@Pants80 @WallyWorld @Daddyfatsax I could live without Cole, Bogdan, Montie and a maxed Parsons....but the one that is going to sting the most down the line will be Mirotic.
@Daddyfatsax Was it that bad?!
@Daddyfatsax That makes sense. Flip is allegedly is limiting the gambles and instead trying to force turnovers with a trapping style of zone defense. It could be a nice change.
Stuff like that is what is really going to matter. If the Wolves can have an okay offense and put up about 100 points or more a night they will be fine, even if arrogant armchair coaches bitch about the 3 point shooting. The key is whether they can defend the Houstons of the world who attempt 40 3's a night. That is the only thing that really matters in any of this.
5 months ago on Conversation @ http://twolvesblog.com/uncategorized/2014-2015-season-opener-wolves-grizzlies.html
@Pants80 MVP of the rookie/sophomore game. Book it.
@Pants80 But the biggest confidence boost he could get would be him being able to shoot the ball in the mid 40's from all spots on the floor. I hope he spends a few months with Penberthy next summer.
@Daddyfatsax If ZBo and Marc stay healthy, yes. I may have slept on them in my rankings yesterday in the forums.
I share your sentiments on Pek looking bigger than normal.
Side note....how effing sweet would it be if Flip somehow got Marc Gasol on the roster next summer? It would never happen (though him and Ricky are great pals), but it would solve just about every problem this team has ever had. I love Pek, but having a 2 way center on this team with no chronic injuries would be kick ass.
@Pants80 We have gone back and forth a lot in the forums on Brewer before you made your heroic return. Just don't see how he is going to be productive. In my opinion, a big reason why (in addition to Love and Pek obviously) the Wolves were so awful protecting the rim were the breakdowns that occurred when Brewer failed a gamble and everyone had to slide away to help. It happened multiple times per game. Wiggins immediately upgrades the 1 on 1 defense and makes it easier on the still-porous interior D.
This doesn't make him unlikable. He is one of the most likable Wolves ever, I just see him having a tough time producing. He did absolutely nothing in the halfcourt offense. When he tried to create off the dribble and shoot from mid range the results were a worse-than-Rubio degree of awful.
Thanks. Enjoyed writing this one.
7 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://twolvesblog.com/
@Wolfenstein Dead horse beaten into the earth's mantle layer....but for the Love of all that is Gorgui Dieng.....thinking of that will never not change my mood negatively, if even for a moment. Such a focking disaster.
7 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://twolvesblog.com/2014/august-e-mail-bantering-with-tim-and-mike.html
RICKY is absolutely your leader and it is hard to find a better candidate. Without Love there, I think you see a new confidence in Ricky and the team immediately establishes far more chemistry and positive vibes.
And I really hope Saunders let's Ricky make some fancy plays. While they do result in the occasional turnover, it seemed Adelman stripped some of the joy from Ricky's game last season.
Interesting that you see Gorgui and LaVine as leaders. Seems like those guys have a long ways to go there, but we can hope for the best. It always felt like Dieng was a folk hero among the players last year. Overall I sense a terrific locker room environment this year. Who could possibly screw it up? Sidney Lowe?
7 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://twolvesblog.com/uncategorized/are-the-twolves-hungry-like-a-wolf.html
@Wolfenstein Can we take a step back and really hash this one out without getting distracted? I have no effing clue. I really want to see the light here, but can't. The only thing I can honestly think of is his HS rankings and pre-season draft projection last year. Can someone play Devil's Advocate in an intelligent way that doesn't involve the ridiculous "but he's a gym rat" Flip-ism?
7 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://twolvesblog.com/videos/timberwolves/despite-critics-wolves-get-great-deal-for-love.html
@slapdoghoops That Philly article from last week said that. Most plugged in people around here seem to think Bennett stays in Minnesota and the Wolves trade Shabazz, filler and the Miami pick for Young, so it's actually accurate in that no one really knows yet.
Bennett may have some ability but he is FAR from a complete package in that he had the worst season ever for a 1st overall pick, and a terrible year for any NBA player. Guy has at least another year before you even think about starting him. I fully support getting a starting caliber veteran PF as Bennett is not even close to ready to shoulder that load.
Hey Mike, good thoughts. With all the Love talk, it's easy to forget that the team is still very much in place. I agree, it has been surprising the Wolves have done nothing to at least shuffle the deck a little bit. It either must mean:
1. The Wolves have a roster of players that are untradeable or uninteresting to other teams. I'd say this is likely.
2. The Love domino has to fall first and other deals will follow after in a scramble.
But you are right, it seems odd they are now one of two teams including Philadelphia that have not completed a single move in free agency. Is Kevin "The Ostrich" McHale back running the front office?! What if they are forced to keep Love? They have let nearly all of the solid MLE free agents pass them by. Ed Davis for $1 million?! What a value.
8 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://twolvesblog.com/
@BlamTheJamBox @WallyWorld @Daddyfatsax Also let me be clear, as down as I am about the pick, I am very excited for a dunk contest invite and some highlights. This team definitely needs them after Adelman neutered Rubio's passing/joy for basketball last season.
9 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://twolvesblog.com/
@BlamTheJamBox @WallyWorld @Daddyfatsax He has 2-way ability, there is no question. But he has shown to be a wild out of control player, sort of like how Barea/Brewer operate off the dribble. Both of those players always had those problems, and both still do.
If he can immediately shake his aversion to contact and score inside he has a chance. That is a long way away.
@Wolfenstein @Daddyfatsax Tony Ronzone would have fit that bill as a snarky mob boss-sounding type, but he was booted from the club for being a mole in David Kahn's front office
@BlamTheJamBox Fair enough. We can agree to disagree. I agree he has the physical tools for success, but not the smarts or poise. That's pretty hard to teach, and the Wolves don't usually have the patience as an organization for things like this. It's like an Anthony Randolph pick.
@MikeCBoosalisii @CollegeWolf @WallyWorld @Wolfenstein Tell that to Kahn who managed to trade away Mirotic, Parsons, and Norris Cole all in one series of trades just to buy out Kurt Rambis. It doesn't get much more fail than that.
Cleanthony Early has too good of a name to not be at least a regular rotation player.
10 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://twolvesblog.com/
@Wolfenstein CLEANTHONY EARLY. AN EARLY 2ND ROUNDER?
Thanks for this Mike! I rely on posts like these to educate me on the draft process since college basketball can be difficult to follow closely if you are trying to watch draft prospects.
Would love Embiid as well. I tend to have a wing bias, in that if there are 2 way wing players in the top 3 of the draft (not names Wes Johnson) you take them. However, it does look like Embiid is ahead of the Parker/Wiggins duo by a tier.
Since the start I have thoughts the Wolves will hold on to Love. I don't forsee CLE giving up that #1 pick so I am going to assume the Wolves end up staying at #13. I don't expect anyone remarkable there but hopefully Marcus Smart miraculously slips, but that is just me being biased again as I live in the small Dallas suburb where he is from.
Nice post. Loved the detail. I had a run in with Maddog once at the downtown MPLS Lifetime. He played for the Wolves at the time and was using the general public stairmaster before a game. He approached me to ask me about a CalPoly t-shirt I was wearing. Great human and he will be great as a Wolves assistant this year.
10 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://twolvesblog.com/2014/meeting-the-mad-dog.html
@MikeCBoosalisii @CollegeWolf I agree that it isn't a foregone conclusion that Love will leave. If the Wolves can somehow have a Blazer's-esque season next year, along with getting a 5-year extension offered, may be enough to entice him to stay. The key is having that Blazer's-esque season. How does this team improve ENOUGH? I really believe the bench, or any lineup with Love not on the floor, pretty much derailed the season. All the other cliche's were secondary. As you alluded to in your very good post, there are far too many one-trick ponies on the roster and mismatched parts off the bench that Adelman seemingly played for no rhyme or reason. They have some nice situational guys, but need a marquee player off that bench...and Martin immediately comes to mind.
With the West poised to be even more competitive next season though, and ongoing injury problems with 2 key starters, I'm skeptical revamping the bench will be enough. Flip may have to do something completely out of left field, such as trade Pek and Rubio for Westbrook or something way unexpected.
10 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://twolvesblog.com/
@MikeCBoosalisii Thanks Mike. As I said though, I really think Love is going to have a lot less value than people perceive, and Rubio as well. I think far less teams would be willing to trade major value for Ricky after what is now his third year, and Love is very risky. If the Wolves want to trade Love to a contender, I see Golden State and OKC as having enough quality players to consolidate. As for Barea, I don't know if he was ever overrated. Have you seen a more deplorable player ever?! At this point he is an expiring so at least he becomes tradeable for maybe a future second rounder, or maybe traded for a trade exception/cash.
Also of note is the Wolves are quietly going to have to get rid of some of these deadweight contracts for nothing just to have enough roster spots to draft and sign your basic round of free agents. As it stands the Wolves have 12 players under contract for next year, 4 picks in this draft and a MLE.
Thanks guys. I look at this stat a lot for individuals, but it is little tougher to get it organized by team. I was stunned at how consistently bad Barea and Shved have been all along. These two are liabilities. The top 4 is great, but remaking that bench backcourt would make a huge difference.
1 year, 2 months ago on A Look at Win Shares and the Wolves Roster
You are right....hot/cold...hot/cold....Man. The Wolves shot the worst single game percentage in team history against MIami, only to completely throttle an underperforming, but rather talented Detroit team. A confidence builder. Win this game tonight vs. Philly and the ship could be turning around, at least in the short term.
1 year, 3 months ago on Motor City Night Class
Nice post. Yeah, it was been a tough look this year. Expectations are much elevated. The West is just absurd. Ridiculous. The Wolves have really only been capable of winning games by having one of their crazy 1st quarters. Unless they have a major lead going into a 4th quarter, where they are near last in shooting, the game becomes much more difficult. For whatever reason they can't seem to score the ball in the halfcourt well at all. Plus the bench. Etc. Etc.
1 year, 3 months ago on Fire & Ice: a 2013 Timberwolves Reality
Yes. Agreed. Something along those lines. It should work just like taxes do.
1 year, 4 months ago on The Flop Calculator: Breaking Down What a Flop Fine Would "Feel Like" to You
@CollegeWolf If you really want to make a dent into things, make the fine a PERCENT of the players salary. The worst floppers often make the higher salaries
@ParmB @WallyWorld Oh and the strippers? There are probably dozens of NBA players who spend tens of thousands of dollars annually at strip clubs.
@ParmB @WallyWorld I understand that. Same goes for NBA players and bills, and without stereotyping too heavily, paying for children and their families, friends, extended families, multiple absurd properties, etc. Many end up bankrupt after retirement. I get what you are saying, It was intended to be a lighthearted exercise, mostly to point out that these fines make zero difference on how much players flop and don't flop.
@ParmB Really? It is a simple analogy for fun assuming gross salaries for all parties.
I agree on the bench being critical. There will definitely be a point where the starters get overused and hurt. The good thing is DWill, Barea, DC, and Shved have all played much better. They aren't a group I particularily love but they SHOULD be better.
1 year, 4 months ago on Rubio, Pek, Bench Struggling to Find Early Rhythm
@Daddyfatsax @CollegeWolf Such a grump lately. What gives? I'm glad you want Shabazz to continue to be a relentless chucker. The key is his willingness to adapt, when he was previously lauded as a me-first ego-maniac. It seems subtle and dumb logic, but I don't think it is. Plus if LORD ADELMAN thinks it's a worthwhile skill to get him out there, then fine. It would be nice to see a non-Rubio rookie see the court and actually develop his game for a change.
It's all moot anyways, Jeffers is bound to get his minutes already as it is....sweet!
1 year, 5 months ago on '13-'14 Pre-Season (Over)reactions to Date
@Pants80 @WallyWorld More depth and better balance to the roster. Last year all it took was one bound-to-happen-for-at-least-a-decent-chunk-of-the-year injury to Roy to throw things really off balance and put Ridnour in control of a lot of minutes at the 2 spot, with or without the Chase injury as well. This created more defensive problems from that position than we could probably even dream of from this year's roster.
This year we have man-children Jeffers and Shabeast to fill the box scores with their tenacious inside games if we go 2+ deep in injuries out on the wings (which'll happen).
Well, yeah, but, injuries. I hear you for sure. The success of this years' team, exactly like last year, is predicated on health. All of our top 4 guys are injury prone. We are better built to sustain injuries, but one or two long term outs from the top 4 and the season is pretty much another failure. If not, 50 wins is not at all unrealistic.
D-Will, D-Will, D-Will. Wait...shooting guard?! I hadn't heard anything of the sorts. Maybe small forward? The guy has been the odd man out since before he was even drafted by us. I am pretty surprised Flip hasn't tried to "flip him" (get it?) for a draft pick next year. Even if he becomes much more productive this next season, there simply remains no room for him.
Nice post. I liked the detail on the training camp invites. Didn't realize Jeffers had some NBA experience.
1 year, 6 months ago on Pre-Training Camp Thoughts
I can respect the authors opinion on this, as we are all entitled to our own way of thinking.....but I violently disagree.
I really think being involved in some kind of hobby or "out of the work/school" activity, particularly one that harnesses creativity, plays a huge role in the development of a well rounded person, thinker, employee or what have-you. This may sound like a cop-out or cliche' but it really isn't. At a young age, it also allows for leadership opportunities for those not born with athletic prowess, and builds discipline, focus and above all provides an opportunity to escape from the mundane tribulations of everyday life. Even the simple concept of working towards a goal independently, and achieving it, plays a huge role in confidence-building.
Whether it has "real world" or "adulthood" value is completely irrelevant. Because the following hobbies cure global warming, world hunger and lead to a 6 figure job outside of college, don't they?:
1. Sports (of which a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percentage of players reach a pro level. What is the point of playing then? The same thing as an artistic pursuit, is it not? To build teamwork, leadership skills, etc.)
2. Arts and crafts and scrapbooking
4. Collecting things
5. Those idiots you all know who work 80 hours per week when they are paid for 40.
.....And so on
I suggest you let your children think for themselves and discover their own interests. If anything, over-parenting is what is absolutely leading to a weak-willed generation.
1 year, 6 months ago on Conversation @ http://www.newrepublic.com/article/114733/stop-forcing-your-kids-learn-musical-instrument
@CollegeWolf Okay. How would you have handled it?
1 year, 8 months ago on TWolvesBlog 2013 Offseason Roundup