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I wouldn't draw these conclusions. There are many players that bounce around, china, europe, sa, etc. He does need a situation that he feels at home with and needs to learn to play more down low. This was his best year, as he was averaging 20+ pts and 7 rb. His stats looked like he was more focused on playing both ends, but.....Incidentally, not all the teams on the list were because he was immature, some are likely his doing.

3 days, 2 hours ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/report-bc-zepter-vienna-parts-ways-with-ryan-richards.html

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@snoozulooz I think it depends on what position he has to guard. He will never e able to defend guards on the perimeter, but he is coming along  playing SF and PF's He just doesn't have good defensive knowledge on positioning, but he has gotten much better at moving his feet and being ready.  He will turn out to be decent. Give him about 6 mos. Pop pulled him over to explain the correct angle to take on baseline defense, and after being beaten 2 times, he adjusted and cut it off. Its just knowledge.

5 days, 15 hours ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/anderson-shines-offensively-in-spurs-overtime-preseason-loss-to-heat.html

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I noticed that R Richards is averaging 20 and 7 and a few assists and blocks. Maybe he is figuring it out.

1 week, 3 days ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/video-latest-davis-bertans-highlight-reel-is-awesome.html

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The big differences are that Kyle is not nearly as athletic as Kawhi, but Kyle has a more natural court sense. He has obviously worked on his D and clearly is more active defensively than SL games showed.  Kyle can also do more securely with the ball than Kawhi, but to have them both bodes well for the future post TD and MG. We are few pieces away from another contending line up, for the next 8 yrs.

We need a slasher with a shot and plays D. This is not so hard to find and a shot blocking post defensive presence and we are good for the foreseeable future.

1 week, 3 days ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/on-kyle-andersons-future-with-the-spurs.html

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I can't image Dion Waiter or Irving having no ego and going without a shoot for a quarter. Remember the Thunder became the Spurs for 3 games in 2012 but quickly reverted to iso ball hogging and still do to this day.

It takes players that can submerge their egos to really make this work and few have the personnel. I would bet on the Mav's to come closer to this style, but they change player every year, so...

2 weeks, 4 days ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/cavaliers-run-spurs-like-offense-but-mastery-could-be-ultimate-test.html

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@snoozulooz Since Patty was more a shooting guard than a point, another scorer/ ball handler is needed to not overuse Manu. Marco is not a real slasher and doesn't easily get his own shot, so Jamal might be helpful, as would Cotton, or maybe some other options still available. This guy plays D and has skills and if his 3pt shot has improved, he could be grommed to replace Manu as he has a similar skill set and mentality.

1 month, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/report-jamaal-franklin-working-out-for-spurs.html

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All words do not provide the meaning intended when read on paper.  I have no idea what he meant but you are now scolding him for meanings you have interpreted. This is a pattern of assuming attitudinal issue with draft picks. R Richards is a "bad apple" because he changed teams, etc Why do this ? We will learn who he is, if and when he is with the team, if he ever is.

He might have only been referencing the new option of draft picks to play in the D league without being signed by the parent club and still being under the rights of the club that drafted him, or maybe just thinking that playing a full year in the D league might not prepare him anymore than Euro League, etc.

I want us all to form our own opinions of player we don't yet know, not have them colored by excessive unfounded opinion. 

 Thanks on the news about Livio.

1 month, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/spurs-livio-jean-charles-really-doesnt-want-to-play-in-d-league.html

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@dtootall I think we need a trade to move Ayers and if needed, Daye to Phila or MInn for draft picks and cash. I like Daye but I'd rather have Clark than either Daye or Ayers, so this war we get Baynes, Clark and maybe Cotton.

1 month, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/report-spurs-set-to-workout-earl-clark.html

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If there is anything to all of these claims of interest, some player movement may be in the works.Marco and Matt might be going elsewhere or ????

1 month, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/report-spurs-showing-interest-in-free-agent-ray-allen.html

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He has had a few dominate performances in the Summer League. He  was either tied or second in rebounding in Orlando. Definitely worth a look at 6'8"

1 month, 4 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/

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@austinn950 I say Blazers because they might have a  better bench if all they injuries don't get them. 

A  year under their belt being a playoff team should also help. Isn't it odd that all of us haven't consider Houston. I think they would beat the Mavs out of the 7-8th spot. Howard, Harden, Ariza, Jones,Beverley, not too shabby. Maybe they play some D this year.

2 months, 4 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/spurs-playoff-threats-out-west.html

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Thunder, Thunder, Thunder- the top 3 threats. Dallas will actually be worse this year. No Marion, Carter, Calderon will take away a lot of consistent perimeter shooting and Parson is not a take charge player in a less run and gun offense.

What killed the Clips was the bench. They had only Crawford who could score in the 1/2 court as they have only Collison who could get in the paint when Paul wasn't on the court. That had them loose any lead they had when the bench guys came in. That isn't any better this time around. 

 Portland is a better team than both the Clips. Mavs, GS. but I'd put GS above the Mavs. Memphis is likely to be better than the everyone other than the Spurs and Thunder, and no Morrow is not a reasonable replace for Thabo- he D is not underrated, it is poor. The stats you show come from having Davis and Aminu on the floor much like KD's D stats don't look bad thanks to Serge's presence cover errors IMO.


2 months, 4 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/spurs-playoff-threats-out-west.html

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Ts one case where the eye test really means something. Morrow plays very bad D. He is never in the right place on switches, has a worse handle than DG. He is a better 3 pt shooter than Thabo, but this guy is slow. How the number come out with him even being in the same class and Thabo is hard to fathom. Metrics get you Steve Novak being an average  defender and rebounder, and we all know that is not true.

2 months, 4 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/for-thunder-out-with-sefolosha-in-with-morrow.html

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Nice Paul. Daye will have to be played as both a perimeter player but a more aggressive shooter than Boris. There will be a new dimension to the offense having a 4 be able to put the ball on the floor or shoot the 3. Boris clearly has these skills but still is a hesitant shooter and so he is always played for the drive and pass and not the 3. Daye will force defenses to play him on the perimeter, opening up the paint for ??? That is why we really do need either Marco or CJ to become more rim attackers this year. CJ and AD may be the keys this year for getting better.

3 months ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/categorizing-the-spurs-frontcourt.html

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@ejwestksu I'm with you. Much made out of taking a Spurs team, that wasn't ready to play with urgency, 7 games. One was a fluke with a last second 3 that otherwise had been a lopsided game and one we threw the ball around and shot poorly (not due to Mav's defense.

They are hodgepodge of older guys, mostly on their last legs that will be asked to do a lot. Chandler didn't look good last year, Jefferson is nor much, Lewis is not much of a defender, and even Parsons, who I like, isn't really, overall a better player than Marion. He thrived on the run and gun of Houston, but the Mav's have to play a more deliberate style with all the older players, so his effectiveness will be take a hit.  How are they better than- Portland, GS, Houston, even NO and Memphis ? That leaves SA, Clips, Thunder followed by everyone else and then Maybe the MAv's at 8 fighting NO. I like Davis way more than Chandler, Gordon over, Ellis, Evan's, Holiday, etc over an old Mav's group.

3 months ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/

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Very good work Paul ! The issue for me is not that he deserves to be cut, but could his spot be used to develop a younger player with more upside. Many of us knowing that Tim and Manu and likely gone after this year would like to see as many steps taken as possible to prepare for the their exits. When we win titles, it is hard for many to not want all of the contributors to return, but even with this, Jeff is one of the few slots that most would feel was non essential. If we had more roster spots, I doubt many would be so critical. There are a number of people thinking the Spurs should let Daye go, I am not one of them, but it is the roster limitations and the fear of 2016 fervor.. Ayres is who he is but in post Duncan era, how valuable will he be, if here at all and how does him staying improve the potentials for 2016 ?

3 months ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/

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@Rambler I am with you on Daye. He was rusty but showed what he can do skill wise less his outside shooting, which is normally his biggest strength. We will need  Green type reclamation to win a back to back, Maybe Cojo , Baynes, or Daye, Marco can make a significant contribution this year. I would like to see Bonner and Ayers traded in for J Green and Cotton or Clark/ Aminu/Casspi- we need youth to prepare for 2016>

3 months ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/spurs-eliminated-from-summer-league-tournament-by-wizards-in-triple-overtime.html

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Another multi - dimensional intellect. We lead the league in deep thinkers. The godfather  theme in the background is funny, and unexpected.

3 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/after-watching-this-video-youll-understand-why-the-spurs-added-coach-ettore-messina.html

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He was not ready and it makes sense. Rather than have to make a decision on him before he has learned to rebound and defend, makes sense that we keep his rights and he works on what his best options are as an NBA player will be. He has an inconsistent perimeter shot, but has size and skills around the basket, he is like Antony Randolph in thinking he is a perimeter scorer. There is hope, as he is just 23.

3 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/report-ryan-richards-goes-back-to-bc-zepter-vienna.html

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If you watched the game, one of Daye's shots was a half court throw as time ran out, one miss came by way of a foul not being called that knocked his wrist, and one with the shot clock running out. So, if you are being fair, we was not on fire, but out of an actual 9 shots and a real 4 from the 3pt line, his stats were great. He was very efficient and should be evaluated based on normal standards.If you don;t like him as a player, share that and not your bias, please.

3 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/

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@Rambler @jojo707 At this point, I'd rather have Thomas than Bonner, but we need another post presence, if we had Baynes instead of Matty, I'd be ok with Thomas, but we both know none of this will happen, unless the FO has some trades or sign and trades in the works. I really have a hard time believing that RC doesn't the hand writing on the wall and will leave this roster what it is by 2015, and knowing TD and Manu will likely be gone with no potential replacements. At least I hope so.

I was one who didn't really like all the Gasol hope, many had. More old, not ok, on there own, type players and a future that looks like a big slide after this year. Daye is the big new hope for improvement from within, and that is sort of a long shot. He could really let go and we could see the next DG, but there is no way to know when the light goes on, if it ever will. Ayres is less valuable, i IMO than Green, there are strech 4's all over SL this year, so Matt could have been let go, but....

3 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/

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@Rambler His limited  upside is what keeps him off the roster. He has few other skills beside shooting. Matt is the same, but he is tall and excels at what he does well. Daye has a number of average skill, Baynes is BIG and can rebound and block out. Thomas isn't likely to every be more than he is, and if we had roster spots for a slow 6'6" pf, he would get his shot. Marco is similar is size but can do a number of things a little above average, so he will stick.  I like all these guys and a number of others not on our SL team, Hobson, McKinney Jones, even Richards should get a real look, but.... Now we have Matt back taking up a roster spot that would be will to go to Cotton, Green, Jones... I get frustrated too having these guys we drafted but they never get signed. Why do we have them ?

3 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/

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Nonsense- the boards Bennett pulled down had very little to do with Daye. In fact several of them came on missed 3's by Daye. Shooting is not something he has to prove. His mechanics are off. I am sure the coaches are worried about Daye and missed shots. He did play ok on D, if you really took time to watch and Thomas may have scored the most point but his D was much worse than Daye's. Green still look like a keeper. This SL and our guys looked this way last year until the 3rd game. Too much thinking about what to do and where to be. This is Daye's  issue/ He is trying to execute new stuff and ahsn't really been on the floor much before SL with a regular group with the same role he is being asked to play. The Cav's let Daye shoot and packed the paint and everyone was off accept Thomas. At least that is what I saw.

3 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/

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If Baynes takes QO and Cotton makes squad, we are done. If there are deals in the works for Ayres of CJ or ... maybe we make roster space. I doubt Matt is back unless there are trades. Until we withdraw the QO to Baynes, all he has to do is accept it and he has a spot.

3 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/spurs-re-sign-mills-sign-anderson.html

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@jdgates21 @jojo707 Hobson is also listed with Toronto. It may be that because he was brought in by the Spurs for a tryout, it was assumed he would be on there SL team. We'll see on Friday.

3 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/

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@jdgates21 I wondered that also. Maybe he is on another roster. No Dajaun Summers either who was also reported. It could be both will be training camp signings or ???

3 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/

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@jaws3 The Heat are out of the picture with signing of McRoberts using MLE.

3 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/why-the-spurs-are-pau-gasols-best-option.html

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@dtootall @jojo707 @stack36 If we keep Baynes, he will do the tough stuff.

3 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/

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@dtootall @stack36 I think Daye will actually add more than Butler, Gasol, but not Boris.  His Detroit coach praised his ability to defend 2-4. I watched him defend Zebo and actually did ok. The roster spot we need to clear is Ayres, unless he has more than he got to show last year. I'd rather see Bazemore of X Henry than Cotton with Mills coming back. CJ might take his spot back or we should package him with Ayres and Marco for a younger sg/sf.

I really like Hobson- Summer L squad as a replacement for Mills and a backup for KL. I don't know why this kid hasn't made it in the league. Watch video of him and see if he doesn't remind you of Manu. Jumps, has great handles, sees the floor well, an above average shooter and finisher( left hand- stronger than Manu with both hands).

3 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/

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I don't think he takes up a roster spot yet. Each team gets 18 or more roster spot thru training camp. He is not guaranteed a spot yet. I think a lot more maneuvering will go on before Oct.  Ayres may be moved if we keep Baynes, and Patty may be not treated a roster spot until after 2015, depending on the time his signing kicks in, maybe.

3 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/source-bryce-cotton-signs-two-year-deal-with-spurs.html

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Dajuan Summers is apparently on the team, at least another site has him with us. He's another athletic 6'8" sf/pf.

It is getting to seem like the future of the Spurs are all going to be multi skilled 6'6"-6'9" players. Don't count out Hobson, he plays like Manu, is about the same size and might be willing hang in the D league this year. 

 The replacement for Duncan may not ever happen. We may be building a different kind of team that doesn't require a strong low post offensive presence, but we do nee shot blocking and rebounding. Can 5 athletic 6'8-6'9" guys manage that.

3 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/a-current-look-at-the-spurs-summer-league-roster.html

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@JohanBeijer it sure looks that way. We likely will have 2 spots open after signing Diaw and Baynes. I think the FO is assuming Patti is likely gone. We will miss his person even more than his shooting.

3 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/report-spurs-expected-to-keep-austin-daye-for-2014-2015-season.html

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Thanks Paul ! Good work, very clear.

3 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/

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Hobson has real skills. He is very Manu like, both skill wise and size.

3 months, 4 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/

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No more old guys, please. We have future to plan for. Damian James shot over 40% from 3 and he actually plays D. Marvin Williams is the only one that has some potential, but if Williams, why no keep Daye. He cost like nothing.

If we want D, why not stay with James, or Cris Singleton, or Jordan Hamilton- young guys needing a chance with defensive credentials when they came into the league. Lets get X Henry at SG and move DG to backup SF, or......

 Good job showing the comparisons, bad list of options.

4 months ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/

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A little high for Boris. 3 yrs 17mil maybe but 2 yrs 20 mil. No way that will happen at age 32. If we can't keep him- Josh McRoberts might be a reasonable replacement. I can't see mortgaging the future on the long shot of winning back to back. Manu , Boris, etc playing this Summer and not having the pain of 2013 loss to drive through 16 post season games is a lot to hope for, so this time to get some fresh blood and over paying Boris would limit some of those options.

4 months ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/spurs-click-scroll-love-wants-to-be-a-spur-warriors-backing-off-engelland.html

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Austin might make a good Spurs replacement for Manu, when he departs.

4 months ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/austin-rivers-defends-tony-parker-from-naysayers.html

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It is time to bring a young guy with more athletic ability then Monroe. If we have Timmy of a year or 2, let's get someone trained who can defend the paint. Monroe is not that. Who do we get ? Tavares, Powell, Richards. 

We will never get a true replacement for Timmy so why ot build on the wings and bring more post defense that can learn to shoot the 15ft jumper and protect the rim.

4 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/plans-for-life-after-duncan-may-be-premature.html

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We really need TD replacement project. Someon who can block shots and develop a low post game. Are any of these guys even close to this ? What about Tavaris or trading up for Payne ? I am not sure who to trade, but we have 2 second round picks and if Mr. Holt would spend a few dollars with the picks and maybe CJ, we might get a 20-23rd pick. Any  thoughts?

5 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/

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Chicago ? Very different climate experience from HEAT.

5 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/spurs-manu-ginobili-hoping-to-turn-things-around-vs-thunder.html

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Good thoughts.  I also think the claims for the Thunder defensive prowess are over blown. I think a lot depends on how much pushing , grabbing, reaching the ref's allow as to how easily we score. Ibaka also compensates for a lot of risk taking and trapping they depend on. Who ever is assigned to Ibaka needs to stick with him like glue and keep a body on him.

It might be good to see DG try to cover KD, at least 5-7 minutes. What we learned from the past 2 series for the Thunder is that guys how are low enough to get at the ball, limit FD to perimeter jump shots and screw up his rhythm. Even a run of CJ might take him out of his flow. 

5 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/

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@DapimpOfdayear  I hear you, but we all took Dallas lightly. They had nothing to loose and have played that way. Tomorrow we will see what it looks like when both have to give it all or go home.  I am more worried Tony's energy. He is hurt and tired. Tiago, Manu, Kawhi, Danny are all playing with intensity, the others may be but just not effective against the defensive schemes. Dallas mixes in zones and the personnel on the floor at these  times may not match up well with the defense called. I'd rather see CJ on the floor with the second unit to cover Harris or Calderon. Manu has his hand full with Carter, who has about 20lbs on him. Ayres was not a bad choice to play with Blair but the combinations have'n't been tested in these games so its a risk. Scoring has not been the problem, rebounds and defense are surely lacking. 

5 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/

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@stack36  Are you kidding me. We have scored over 100 and shot over 50%. Marco played at a high level last season in the playoff's last year, so determining it is anything to do with ability or the pressure from Dallas, ignore what is before your eyes. The team defense sucks. Why ? I really don't know, but it is usually effort.

TD said after game 5 that we would go to Dallas to try to close it out, and if not try back in SA.  Jason is right about the level of passion. It is like the team has been prepared for a long run and tried to get by on "good enough play", not everything for now. It might just be human nature when winning 62 games and having an opponent they had beaten 9 times in a row. We'll see what happens tomorrow. Tony is still running on fumes and is not at his peak. Manu has had 1 bad game, TD is being defended by a long player  in Dalembier and Blair is playing like his life depends on getting every rebound, Many of the rebounds fell into his hands and the Sprs bounced the ball around a lot instead of grabbing it. Blair is short and wide and many of these multi touched balls, found his level. Mostly luck plus focus. 

5 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/

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I do think Dirk is somewhat overrated. Carlisle gets him a lot of open looks and that with a few highly contested makes, adds up to a big night for Dirk. Dirk and Kobe are the best contested shot makers in the league, but even they shoot below 30% of highly contested jump shots. The key is taking away the open looks, The pull up 3's, the blown coverages, put backs, layups and let him make his 40% of contested 2's. If he gets 18pts, ok!

We have learned alot over the years about defending Dirk and now have better personnel to move him off his spots and make him shoot that one legged thing that we are all shocked that it goes in, but not as much as it might seem. it reminds me of the Kobe 3's with a hand in his face, but he only shot at a 30% clip on contested 3's. They seem impossible to make, and yes they are, but still a bad percentage to take. 

6 months ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/tiago-splitter-dirk-nowitzki-didnt-look-comfortable-in-game-1.html

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@MOlsen  I noticed the same thing, but no mention on the team website, so likely personal or not eligible for this round of playoffs. 

James has been a more defensive player until lately. He was a poor shooter until 3 months ago.

6 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/damian-james-says-he-wants-to-he-one-of-the-best-defenders-in-the-nba.html

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I viewed video on Damien and although his shot from distance was inconsistent, he has similar gifts of KL. They have similar wing span, athleticism, quick feet and decent ball skills. He also apparently has improved his distance shooting and has shot over 40% from 3 his past 15-20 games.

With a little help from Chip, we might have a good  backup for KL, with Daye mixing it with  SF, stretch 4, while Kl can try time at the 2. 

 I hope he sticks.

6 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/spurs-damion-james-passed-up-more-money-to-prove-his-worth.html

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@jaws3   Dirk is more  a plodder but they both can shoot off the dribble and put the ball on the floor enough to get an open look. I don't remember Chambers much. I think Richard may have more raw talent, but really need coaching to learn most everything. It looked like before he go t hurt that Bertans might have been brought over last Summer and signed, so maybe this Summer we will see him. It is time to get these guys to learn the system. 

I imagine a roster of these long shooters replacing the old guard. DG, KL, Daye, Bertrans, Jean Charles, with an aging TP and maybe Kabongo, or...

 We likely will need a whole new personnel approach once TD is gone and these guys look like a nice start.

6 months, 4 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/video-davis-bertans-returns-to-the-court-scores-20-points-in-20-minutes.html

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Great to see him back but please check your source for his height. He is listed most places at 6'10.5" not 6'8". He really looked good, in the clips.

6 months, 4 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/video-davis-bertans-returns-to-the-court-scores-20-points-in-20-minutes.html

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