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@Harold Kamper Also, I do, in fact, pay more than most people for my milk, it is antibiotic and hormone free, fed with organic feed and I pay 20% more for it, so their higher production costs are willingly paid by me and I am happy to do it.  

2 months, 3 weeks ago on This Farm is Powered By Its Own Cows

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@Harold Kamper That is an idealistic view of subsidies.  Often times, through these subsidies and incentives farmers grow unnecessary crops and even NOT grow crops when we could at worst sell the crops at reduced amounts to starving Nations.  Tax breaks, again, they have a tendency to be abused and not followed.  I would be more agreeable with a tax break to build the systems and even interest free loans to cover the initial cost of the project.  Once the project is built, and the loans repaid, the costs of production would be reduced and the farmer could sell the milk for LESS, not more.  My problem with subsidies are the corrupt government systems that waste money and use them illegally, I do not trust the government to do anything because they don't prove themselves to be trustworthy.  The problem with the programs to subsidize these things is the abuse and Billions wasted, look at the Obama list of waste in the name of the Green movement:

 Evergreen Solar ($25 million)*
    SpectraWatt ($500,000)*
    Solyndra ($535 million)*
    Beacon Power ($43 million)*
    Nevada Geothermal ($98.5 million)
    SunPower ($1.2 billion)
    First Solar ($1.46 billion)
    Babcock and Brown ($178 million)
    EnerDel’s subsidiary Ener1 ($118.5 million)*
    Amonix ($5.9 million)
    Fisker Automotive ($529 million)
    Abound Solar ($400 million)*
    A123 Systems ($279 million)*
    Willard and Kelsey Solar Group ($700,981)*
    Johnson Controls ($299 million)
    Schneider Electric ($86 million)
    Brightsource ($1.6 billion)
    ECOtality ($126.2 million)
    Raser Technologies ($33 million)*
    Energy Conversion Devices ($13.3 million)*
    Mountain Plaza, Inc. ($2 million)*
    Olsen’s Crop Service and Olsen’s Mills Acquisition Company ($10 million)*
    Range Fuels ($80 million)*
    Thompson River Power ($6.5 million)*
    Stirling Energy Systems ($7 million)*
    Azure Dynamics ($5.4 million)*
    GreenVolts ($500,000)
    Vestas ($50 million)
    LG Chem’s subsidiary Compact Power ($151 million)
    Nordic Windpower ($16 million)*
    Navistar ($39 million)
    Satcon ($3 million)*
    Konarka Technologies Inc. ($20 million)*
    Mascoma Corp. ($100 million)  

2 months, 3 weeks ago on This Farm is Powered By Its Own Cows

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@CarolLaurich I actually don't believe in ANY subsidies, it undermines the Capitalistic system, it's a free market, hence, the market will determine the price.  I know I would be more likely to purchase product from a farm that invested in this type of green farming.


3 months ago on This Farm is Powered By Its Own Cows

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@Greener I think it's quite enough to contribute their efficient methods of recycling.  They don't need to GIVE the money they save by making these efforts away.   You people are NEVER happy.  Perhaps you should instead look at the millions and millions they shelled out to build these renewable processes and then understand the risk and efforts they make creating jobs and NOT polluting.  They are a business and when they find a way to save money they should take it and spend it, not GIVE it to you.  

3 months ago on This Farm is Powered By Its Own Cows

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@LuJohnson Please shut up.

3 months ago on This Farm is Powered By Its Own Cows

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Look, unless we convince people that there is a real problem, then nothing is going to happen, we will plunge into a massive depression and basically government slavery will follow.  People are stupid and THAT is the problem.  I was so confident in the last election.  We can vote in Ron Paul, people are NOT stupid enough to reelect a Socialist Dictator hell bent on bankrupting our country.  But the prophetic words of Ron came to fruition, they have 47% of us not paying taxes, dependent on the government for all of their basic needs.  Worthless lazy scum bottom feeding leeches and they voted him back in.  We have no voice, our only choice is to band together, all move to a region and succeed from the USA, become a Nation of minimal taxes, separate from the California and New York, a place where our voices will be heard again.  Right now we are worthless Pathetic unorganized dissenters with small businesses or hard working individuals that still want our freedom.  We need to organize and get out!!

1 year, 8 months ago on How to Stop the Federal Government

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