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@Iassen Donov @wannabearmyteen @TKW406 Really? I wonder how many events have happened that the public knows nothing about.
10 months, 3 weeks ago on The Men of Covert Operations
Thanks Tango, I've been enjoying my discourse directly with the authors, no need for you to scramble so hard to run interference. But thanks for trying to explain why you have banned me, I'm still here, but it's pointless try to educate and share information with a guy who has 15.225 redundant points..
Some readers who think for themselves may find it more interesting to hear differing points of view even when they seem controversial or they may want to hear the shame old shit from a guy whose got nothing better to do than sit in front of their computer all day and "ban" people whose opinions dont fit your mould .
I'm not too worried about your "letting me in" because even though I communicate directly with the authors, a little public discourse can sometimes be fun and challenging .They don't seem to have difficulty having legitimate discussion regarding the subject matter.
Best wishes to you and your follwers and remember, you are never too old to learn unless your brain has lost its plasticity.
1 year ago on Benghazi: The Definitive Report
@AUNITEDPEOPLE @majrod @dmalert @Tango9 Sometimes expressing a different opinion is offering an opportunity for enlightenment and learning something you might not have a chance to know if all you hear is your own opinions. Often its good to step out of the comfort zone. I understand when moderators delete opinions that differ from their own it's because of fear and ignorance.
@JackMurphyRGR Would love to discuss with you, but your gatekeepers are deleting my comments. Why are they so scared? That kind of censure is indicative of fear, not wanting the others to see an aspect of the truth. I assume its not you Jack, you seem to be able to manage discourse without having to resort to snuff and run. By the way, thanks for stimulating the conversation although I believe it all goes back to incompetence. Same old shit, different department.
@JackMurphyRGR Sorry Jack, It looks like my comments have been censured. Is that you or someone else deleting my comments? I wonder why my comments would scare anyone so much they have to delete them?. I hope it wasn't you because I respect your opinions and although I haven't had a chance to read the whole book, your excerpts do raise interesting questions.
@JackMurphyRGR “The nature of these operations remains highly classified. They were never intended to be known to anyone outside a very small circle in the Special Operations community and within Obama’s National Security Council. Ambassador Stevens, the CIA chief of station in Tripoli and then-director of the CIA, Gen. [David] Petraeus, had little if any knowledge about these JSOC missions.”
OK, still haven't had a chance to read the whole book, only some excerpts. They raise the same questions from day 1 regarding security, that's where it all came apart and people were killed. I guess my question goes back to pre-9/11 when Stevens and the others were asking for more security. Even if there were several levels of secret JSOC operations going on, why would they risk blowing it by not having enough security for the fake front guys? If I had some front guys who didn't have a clue as to what was really happening, I'd want to keep them safe and out of the spotlight so they could carry on covering for me and I could continue my secret mission. If the naive front guys were at risk, wouldn't you want to keep them from blowing up in your face? How did Petreus not know Stevens was asking for security pre 9/11? Even if there was no covert mission going on the place was so volatile there should have been more security anyway. Are yu saying that Petreus and Stevens had no connection whatsoever?
Also, there is so much focus on Petreus' enemies trying to expose his affair. Thats not something that makes you dissappear from the face of the earth. Presidents, high ranking officials in government, the military, the FBI, senators, Secret Service have all kinds of sordid affairs- homo, hetero, gerbils, man fuckers, every scandal you can think of or write in "No Shit, there I was in Benghazi". They still carry on like nothing happened. Why did Petreus disappear from the face of the earth and become unable to tell anyone anything about anything? He's just an innocent bystander who knows nothing about nothing?
@Tango9 Little Black Sambo, written in the 1800's by a British author, is a fable about a South Indian boy named Sambo who learned the lesson of how destructive vanity can be when he saw an egotistic group of self proclaiming high echelon tigers chase themselves around a tree until they turned to butter, which his mother then used to make pancakes. When the tigers self destructed chasing their own tails, the family had a nice meal of them at the end. The lesson was about about self importance = self destruction. Your racial references are born of ignorance. You may need to re-think riki tik.
As for your accusation that I refer to a "giant special forces community" as groupies, I have read these comments off and on and the majority are not written by special forces. Many are non combat military, POGS and a large percentage civilian. Not that there's anything wrong with it but on the occasion when I have seen a post that is respectful, intelligent and has credible information it is usually written by a quiet professional or someone close to them. They are few and far between and the difference is so obvious it jumps off the page.
@JackMurphyRGR I respect your suggestion that Petreus was in the dark (some do it with the lights on) and will read the book disregarding the reviews and the previews.
I appreciate the time and effort you put into all your exposes, your blogs and I find your fiction engaging and well written. I don't usually comment on this site as the wannabes waste a lot of time chest thumping and trying to brawl on the internet. I notice the few individuals who are the real deal usually respond with thoughtful, credible and insightful information. Keep setting the bar, knowledge is power.
"Tango9 - we've reached a time where I fear my own government more than I fear any foreign nation."
Many of us reached that conclusion decades ago. In 1972 Pogo proclaimed "We have met the enemy and it is us". Prior to that, my time up close and personal with the military had me convinced.
I haven't read the 'definitive report' on Benghazi but I already see some gaping holes in the reviews.
Jack and Brandon, If you want to be taken seriously by anyone other than your loyal camp followers, and you acknowledge that this was a covert CIA operation involved in nefarious activities, you can't let the head of the CIA off the hook . Either he is an, ineffective, moron or a snake who slipped through the cracks after purposely leaking his sexual activities that everyone already knew about. Dick sucking is no excuse to slip out of the picture and disappear in the wake of four dead souls in Benghazi, a mission he was in charge of. He's not an innocent bystander. Maybe an incompetent bystander, but make no mistake, he's in the thick of it even if its way beyond capability.
I have some respect for you guys when I see you swim against the current to support your position and I know you put your life on the line to fight for our country. But you drank the cool aid and its hard to step back and take an objective look after spending so many years and so much time training and being indoctrinated into a system that has you and all your friends taking a bullet for the government no questions asked.
Don't cover for a general who spent his career sucking his way up the beltway and spent a few years inside the wire engaging in covert penetration with his "biographer".
Do I understand correctly that you'd like your readers to buy into your theory that he was innocently set up, and just happened to go away, never to be mentioned again, right in the midst of the Benghazi Hearings because he got taken advantage by a dirty little camp follower? Dudes, the willing suspension of disbelief just isn't happening with logical thinkers. You might get some support from groupies but they are mainly spinning a feedback loop that after a wile begins to turn to butter like in Little Black Sambo.
You may know a lot of guys who have opinions and I don't fault them for trying to make sense out of the ludicrous failure known as Benghazi but the buck stops at the top of the CIA,. This organization gets away with anything, especially when they have no oversight, are forever hiding behind the veil of national security and their leader ducks out after a blow job never to be heard of again. What kind of guy turns and runs away in the midst of determining why there were needless deaths of 4 brave, patriotic heroes? Put yourself in his place. Would you have the balls to give testimony even when your testicles were sucked up into your abdomen? I would and I'm not a general.