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@BillWhiley @yooperbill Bill, corporately purchased tickets of all those empty seats so that the Jags do not get blacked out locally on TV does not count. All those images of the upper deck tarps over the seats in imprinted in people's minds. Perception is the Jaguars' probably as much as anything.
1 year, 10 months ago on Conversation @ http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/London-Jaguars-What-do-you-think.html
@BillWhiley @palmcoast26 @local37220 @JohnGalloway Palmcoast is killing it... keep it up! Bill, I was using TV market size, which is what pro sports, especially football, care about.
@palmcoast26 I agree that the Jags should have taken Tebow for marketing purposes. You got me there... Nashville and its unpredictable mid-South winter weather in an open air stadium has not hosted a Super Bowl. Checkmate.
@palmcoast26 Although large and important, Frankford is a suburb of Philadelphia. I doubt they are looking for an NFL franchise in that neighborhood.
@palmcoast26 @local37220 @JohnGalloway My bad... I was looking at an old set of data. Nashville is still 29th, but Jacksonville is now 50th. Look, I'm not out to dog Jacksonville. When the article topic involves rumors of the team in Jacksonville moving, people are going to comment about the team in Jacksonville. http://www.tvb.org/media/file/TVB_Market_Profiles_Nielsen_Household_DMA_Ranks2.pdf
@palmcoast26 @local37220 @JohnGalloway I said long term, John. It is fairly apparent that when the current stadium has served its purpose, Jacksonville is as big a flight risk as any... just read the main article for which we are all making comments. Nashville is the 29th largest market in the U.S. and Jacksonville is the 47th. There are 32 teams, of course, so there's that. Since coming to Nashville, every game has sold out. Hope that helps.
@JohnGalloway I think recent history has shown that willingness to build lavish new stadiums is more important than market size. To my knowledge, KC and Denver have no issues on that subject. Plus, those are great NFL cities. I mentioned San Diego, Jacksonville, and Buffalo because they are the only ones I know of with a serious long-term stadium issue. Minnesota was on that list until recently. Here in Nashville, preliminary talks are already taking place to replace LP Field with a retractable roof stadium when the time comes. You've got to plan those sorts of things 10-20 years out.
I think a jump into Europe needs to be with a full division of at least four teams. A team in London, Berlin, Barcelona, and one more that makes sense (I would think Paris or Rome). If the Jaguars, Chargers, Bills and one more team cannot pan out long term, that is the cleanest answer. If you simply add 4 franchise to get a total of 36, it gets a bit more cumbersome. I would assume each conference would go to 3 divisions of 6 teams each, and then you are back to figuring out travel issues.
The SEC could do worse that adding WVU down the road as a #17 or #18 after getting into NC and VA. Does someone know if adding WVU also adds the Pittsburgh TV market? If this is about markets and WVU/Pitt are a wash in that department, then WVU fits every other criteria of an SEC fit (culture, flagship, proximity) except being an AAU member.
2 years ago on The Big XII, WVU Marriage Already Providing Some Expansion Lessons
UK had one guy (Brandon Knight) leave as a Freshman in 2011. He is now the starting point guard for the Pistons; he was ready. Enes Kanter, who never played, left also because the NCAA would not make him eligible. UK can still sign everyone plus one more (hopefully Julius Randle today) without cutting anyone. Jarrod Polson is a preferred walk-on, which means he only gets a scholarship if one becomes available. Cal is not cutting anybody. If he operated like that, Jon Hood would have been gone by now. Rumors are floating that Kyle Wiltjer may transfer back to the Pacific Northwest because he has not been a good fit for the system (can't create off the dribble and a liability on defense), but that is his call.
2 years, 1 month ago on What Does Last Night’s NIT Loss Mean For Kentucky? Not Much
@JRsec @WarHog38 Interesting thoughts on the fits (or lack thereof outside of FSU and Clemson). It became apparent a few years ago that the Texas, Oklahoma, and Kansas legislatures are not going to split their flagship/state schools unless both schools with each state have equally soft landing spots. I do not see any way that the SEC or BIG adds Texas Tech, Kansas State, or Oklahoma State just to get big brother, nor do I see the PAC only taking little brother without the flagship. The obvious play is the PAC taking all 6 of those schools when the GoR expires and going immediately to 18. They could do worse than Baylor and TCU to get to 20 if they needed (as always, Iowa State is left in the cold).
The SEC needs to tread very lightly with these latest additions, or they could face the same demise as the WAC. If we get to 20 teams by adding FSU, Clemson, NC State, Va.Tech, WVU, and a Duke/Pitt, I can understand the big boys (UF, UA, USC, UGA, UT, UK, LSU, Ark., TAMU and probably Auburn) wanting to split and immediately increase their revenue shares by a good chunk. Without an exit fee (which I believe is the best part of the SEC when things are going well), there is not much to stop such a move except tradition and perception.
2 years, 1 month ago on FSU A.D. Spetman Talks Openly About Switching Conferences… And The SEC
@torris187 @kelticreid True, but giving the boot to a founder is certainly not the norm, nor should it be. If networks took the time to pay out in a more common sense method (actual eyeballs compared to households with the ability to watch), then solidifying a state makes complete economic sense for a region like the South. Shoot, if the SEC added FSU, Clemson, UNC/NCST, and Va. Tech, they would have a network that could be a full service Southern network that a huge chunk of the population would watch for anything, news included (I'm only half joking). If the SEC truly stays at 16 schools, I completely get adding just a VA and NC school and stopping. However, if they go 20, I don't see any other non-BIG school outside of UT or OU that makes more overall sense than FSU, Clemson, or Ga. Tech.
@torris187 @kelticreid The SEC is not ejecting founding members. Do you think any law firm is kicking out an original partner unless they do something heinous? I get your dollars and cents point, but the PAC could make the same move with Wazzou and Oregon St. as well as the BIG could with Purdue and Michigan State. You have to think about founding members in terms of a business owner. You always want to invest in properties that add to your existing properties. The Mississippi schools have worked the SEC "company" wonderfully considering their position as a partner. I would argue that Auburn should not be in this conversation. They net over $100 mil in revenue, which is fourth highest behind Bama, Florida, and LSU. FSU is in the 75 to 80 mil range, which is the ballpark with Kentucky and TAMU.
@iDBrown That's right... I forgot all about Louisville in the ACC. Kentucky-WVU would also be a tremendous rivalry. Ultimately, I think the solution will be for the major conferences to agree on leveling their playing field. The first logical step will be to agree on not playing FCS schools at all and limiting it to one lower level FBS school per year. I think there will always be value in allowing WVU -Marshall, UK-WKU, NC State - East Carolina, etc, especially as the opening weekend game to somewhat serve as a preseason game.. If the big boys HAVE to play each other in the other two non-conference games, I think things will work themselves out. Everyone can keep their rival but add another school(s) that make sense. Texas could play A&M annually but also rotate in Bama, Ohio State, USC, etc. I don't think having a formal conference partnership for scheduling purposes is really needed under those conditions.
2 years, 2 months ago on Big Ten To Add More Conference Games; Is This Another Lure For UVA, GT, UNC And Duke?
@iDBrown How about having a split partnership with the Big 12 and the ACC? The eastern SEC play ACC, and the western teams play the Big 12. How does this look to you? The ones below are easy:
*Florida - FSU
*Georgia - GT
*USC - Clemson
*Vandy - Wake Forest
*Tennessee - UNC/ Va Tech alternate
*Kentucky - UNC/Va Tech alternate
*Texas A&M - Texas
*LSU - OU
*Arkansas - Ok. State
*Missouri - Kansas
Now, what do you do with the Mississippi and Alabama schools that actually brings value? Not sure. By the way, if the SEC added every ACC school from Virginia southward, do you realize it would be a 24 team conference that makes geographical, cultural, and competitive sense? Just sayin'...
This would be a tremendous move by the BIG. Looking more and more like NC State to the SEC, not UNC and Duke. If the BIG is able to grab up UVA, UNC, Duke, and Georgia Tech (18 total), and the SEC takes Va. Tech and NC State (16 total), I really think USC and UF need to bite the bullet and allow Clemson and FSU into the league. Otherwise, the Big 12 takes them, solidifies itself, and there are no more realistic options for SEC expansion. The SEC needs to position itself for the Oklahoma/Texas package that would become available in about a decade. It would be quite the showdown between the SEC and the PAC. In that circumstance, the BIG would be wise to get to 20 by adding Kansas and Mizzou (we all know they would go if invited and be glad for them; they belong with Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa, and Illinois).