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Great article. Pretty pictures. Fucking Corsi. Amazing how people are enchanted by statistics. Remember people, statistics are EXTREMELY limited. Sure, you can measure thrust counts, and entry angle, moaning decibel, and quantify a whole slew of other factors and STILL not be able to differentiate between great consensual sex and rape; the difference of which is pretty significant wouldn't ya say?
Nash is in much better shape and is playing an entirely different game than he played last year. No one needs any analysis beyond their eyes to understand this. The hell with his goals, for I agree, some of them have gone in a la Richards goals last year, and yes, I saw some of his shots last year look exactly the same and NOT go in. The goals hardly tell the story. He is having an impact on every shift....when last year we could go GAMES without seeing an impact.
It is really not that difficult to assess players, but the stats often get in the way. Just watch. Baseball lends itself far better to measuring performance by stat analysis than other sports, and there are even significant limitations there as well. The San Fran Giants sure as shit are a better team than they are "on paper".
Hockey is probably the sport least conducive to analysis by quantifiable measures. Just watch the game.
Here's hoping Nash keeps feeling his oats through the entire season and long into spring! We have NEVER seen him this way. He is crashing the net without the puck...and straight into my very heart (sniff)...bless that big hairy ape!
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@betweentheworlds You said "clearing Lundqvist's crease". hehehehehe
WTF is wrong with me? RHETORICAL!!! (....damn, you'd need a separate blog)
Agree with everything here Worlds! LGR!!
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@KevinTheNYRBlog @Bueller @DP_Snotty I want him traded now. I don't think he healed fast enough. Run the Corsi numbers on that, will ya Kev?
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@wherewasi only if gratuitous means AWESOME!
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@KevinTheNYRBlog @Say my Name @AnnoyingJoe Newman!
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@AnnoyingJoe hey...whatever I do, it doesn't make me a bad person! Don't judge me!
I actually had a
chance to speak with Mac between periods immediately after Hank’s rally:
that hanging from your ear? Is that…is that…?
What?..Oh…(grabbing it and rubbing it through his hair) hair gel.
mean it’s not…
really hair gel. When Hank gets mad he tends to throw his products
around. It really gets our attention. Some of his stuff is quite
SMN: Is that
why you smell like…
Lavender. I believe that is lavender. Yes. Those were bath
salts he peppered us with. Boy did they sting, but the smell…
otherworldy. I think they are imported from Portugal.
SMN: So are
these types of outburts common with Hank?
McD: No, not
at all. He is usually quite calm. But this time he really lost it.
He even bent one of the mirrors.
yeah…we all have polished titanium mirrors in the locker room. You can’t
stare directly at Hank. You must use a mirror of sorts, and glass is too
risky, given the danger.
Dangers? Like Medussa…you turn to….?
Stone?…ha…no, it’s not that bad…it’s more of an unset concrete
Brad Richards last year was because of…
SMN: And it
made him into a bunny looking creature too then..wow!
Haha..no, that is entirely on his parents.
about Hagelin’s hands
Yeah…terrible….terrible…they actually did turn to stone. He won’t
admit what happened between he and Hank, and we sure don’t ask, but (sigh) not
to mix Greek myth tragedies, but you can’t fly that close to the Sun without
getting burned, ya know?
SMN: Thanks for your time. Good luck in the third.
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@IhaveawaiteratMSG That. Was. Aweeesommme. (In best Tommy Boy voice)
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@McPhee37 @Say my Name That is a great point! I was taught hook checking as part of the game. It was one of the first things in fact. You mean an institution put money above the welfare of people? I don't know. Doesn't add up. ;)
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@IhaveawaiteratMSG @Say my Name LOL!
@McPhee37 @Say my Name That's the way I was taught to play. It's a tough issue.
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damn....I'm looking at this stuff too much. Play anything a thousand times and it can look like anything you want. Paging Dr. Timothy Leary....I'm out.
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Damn...as I look at the Kreider hit it looks less and less bad each time. That was barely a shove. The problem is that the Wild's player's left leg, which he was using for stopping, got bumped and he lost his edge, lost his stopping power, and his own momentum as much as Kreider's one handed push, sent him into the boards. Had he not lost his edge Kreider's much does nothing. I am not one to make excuses for our big dumb animal, because I love busting his balls for being a big, dumb animal, but this isn't the case here.
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@McPhee37 Hey, that pic below says it all - contact was shoulder to chest and as of now, that is legal, correct? Is there a defenseless player rule, or did I just make that up? If there is he should be judged solely by that rule. If there is not, he should not even be fined, let alone lose time.
@ObviouslyTwoPointsAreGreat @Say my Name Absolutely agree! Prust's hit on Stepan was flagrant head-hunting. This was not that at all. The inconsistency is crazy.
@Bueller @Say my Name That's an interesting point, and I have no answer for it. You don't want to reward horrible hockey. Christ, if playing with your head down guards you from being hit, I would've made the NHL!! I guess there's the rub.
How about you penalize the layer if the skates with his head down. LOL TWO MINUTES for being a fucking idiot!
How about being allowed to trip the player with his head down? Maybe three tranq darts are allowed per game to take these dolts out, a la Old School.
I have no idea. I suppose it is going to have to be the point of impact. If it is a shoulder in the chest then irrespective of what happens to the player's head afterward, I suppose it should be on the "hitee". And I think that is the case here. The trouble is that the impact to the head of a clean hit on a vulnerable player can still destroy a life. The NFL is dealing with that now with WR's...BUT the difference is that the WR put in that position are not generally in that position bc of their own stupidity, rather the QB's stupidity (or incompetence).
This is a real tough one with no easy answer. But I am firm in thinking that Moore did not intend a head shot there. He clearly led with his shoulder to the chest, not an elbow to the jaw.
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I want dangerous hits out of the game as much as anyone, and until I saw the photo below was ready not only to see Moore suspended, but pretty sure that the "in person meeting" was one where he should look carefully around any doorways before he walked through them once he arrived.
That doesn't look like a head-hunting hit though - and again I was biased in thinking it was at first blush. His hand and arm are down at impact. I am sure that in bracing for the impact on the arm and shoulder that he was pushing out at impact which would cause the arm to go up immediately after impact. If you've delivered a check with your shoulder you know that it ain't exactly always pleasant for you as well - impact is impact.
Defenseless player? I think there is a case to be made for that, sure, but I don't think it was a headhunting shot. That said, it is probably about time that the NHL takes a real stand against any hits like that and draws the line by saying that as a "hitter" it is your responsibility 100% of the time to make sure that you are not hitting a player who is in a position of extreme vulnerability. Yes, it is far different than how I was raised to play when taking out a vulnerable player like that was a prospect to be drooled over. But...things have thankfully changed. Now that we know what is happening inside the head, there is absolutely no place for that in ANY sport.
@SmellyKisio @Say my Name Me like'm Nash! Me have no idea why I'm talking like Chief Wild Eagle from F-Troop!
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Yes, I do believe that Staal and Girardi will improve, BUT...the very fact that some of these young guys are even in the discussion for playing as well (or as badly) as the two vets speaks volumes about long term contracts to guys at thirty (especially d-men). For if kids are playing anywhere near the same level of effectiveness now, you can bet your ass that in 2 years you will be wringing your hands over those contracts. Yes, you have to play (and pay) for the "now", but that is a delicate balancing act and one in which IMO you can't have more than one overpaid d-man in decline at a time without severely compromising your team.
Now, I was full on wrong about Sather. I said that he did not have the chops to put together a team with Nash, Hank and Girardi's salaries...and he did. Yes, it has taken him 15 kick-the-dog, punch-holes-in-the-wall years to figure it out, so you can't fault me for not having faith, but man I have to give credit where it is due. I don't know the rest of the league like some of you cats out there, but Stemp?? Did anyone peg him for being this solid?? I thought he was the forgotten one on the Three Stooges! This guy can play. Great pick-up by Slats. Exactly the kind of guy they needed at a price point that seems impossible. Did Sather figure it out, or is this just the "even a blind squirrel" scenario?
I like hockey. Hockey good.
@gravey94 @Say my Name I would take McIlrath over Malone. No problem. Just keep a few people on the team that make the other team "aware".
...and yes, I didn't want the numbskulls to point out how Duclair and Richards play different positions, or Stemp, etc...thus the Gestalt beatdown! LOL
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...and yes, I understand that the players I mentioned are not direct replacements. I am talking Gestalt here, Gestalt muthafukka!
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The Rangers have a
helluva team here. They are oozing talent, plus they have meat where they
need it. They are going to be one of those teams that either beats the
other team or beats themselves. It is going to take some time for them to
gel, and these long breaks are not helping. Look for them to be sloppy
for a spell, especially after these next 4 days off. They’ll have us
pulling out our hair and then it will just click and they will go on a tear.
Now though? They are like a bunch of jumpy thoroughbreds trying to
get organized at the gate - well, except for Kreider, who is like a retarded
Clydesdale, bending the bars and chewing on the rail.
They are light
years better than last years team. Stemp is better than Boyle. The
other Boyle is (will be) a legit QB on the point…and though I have no hard
paper on this, I THINK Duclair is a bit faster and more of a big play threat
than Richards, But most important is the play of Nash and the additions
of Malone and Glass. Nash has been a beast! He is playing tougher
than I ever saw him play, even before the concussion - and he is just a ton
quicker as well.
Biggest unspoken factor - not one team has
pushed us around yet this year. Not once have I watched a game and
cringed (and there were PLENTY last year) as the Rangers were pummeled.
Not once have I seen a team taking shot after shot both during play AND
after the whistle. Damn… we just played a game where we cheapshotted TWO
players out of the game and the response??? Nothing!!! Do you
think that the rest of the NHL simply decided to be gentler, more professional
to the Rangers this year?? Hmmm….yeah, that must be it. There is more room
and a different vibe out there which the entire Ranger team can take advantage
of the direct result of a change in the team that can’t be measured by ANY
stat; and it is the reason why the only facial that 110lb Duclair received this
year was from his own teammate.
Stick that up your Corsis, statholes! ;)
@I Am Sean's Ruptured Spleen @IcyCup @DP_Snotty LOL!
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I have to go arrange all of my porn by Corsi score. Night all!
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@Hotfreak Night Freak!
@AnnoyingJoe @Say my Name @Hotfreak I just asked him for a bigger dick, so he may be busy. Oh WTF is this...he just brought stRangersfan into my house. Fucking Greg Brady and his exact words lesson all over again!!!
@AnnoyingJoe @Hotfreak Is that rhetorical, or is it really a prayer?
WTF Kreider??? This guy has a head full of bent forks.
@AnnoyingJoe @Say my Name Malone on lines 3-10
Honestly, I don't think this comeback would've occurred had the Rangers not fell behind. (tapping forehead) Perspicacious, huh?
Remember the days when a two goal deficit meant you could turn off the game and go back to teaching the ferret how to yodel (or whatever you want to call it). Not now brotha....they are not out of any game. Down 3...2 minutes to play...whaddya say boys, should we begin? ...good to have weapons
@Bleed_the_freak @Say my Name shit...I've been FF...let me go back and see...
I just played a bit back on the ol DVR and saw a MONSTER move by Nash to the net!!! A legit power forward, serious muscle move!!!! WTF???? WOW!
Sorry stRangersfan, looks like raiding your sister's panty drawer is going to be the highlight of your evening.
@JustinRP37 @Say my Name Lol...you've been watching me! In all fairness it IS chilly tonight!
Just walked in the door and turned on the TV to see TWO goals in 20 seconds! I will be spending every game we are down re-entering my house in the exact outfit until the end of time.
@ObviouslyTwoPointsAreGreat @McPhee37 @rangermom Hey...the Rangers should be so fortunate that who their 4th line enforcer is is their biggest problem. I think we can ALL agree on that!
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@ObviouslyTwoPointsAreGreat @McPhee37 @rangermom LOL!!
@rangermom @Say my Name @DP_Snotty @McPhee37 I have no idea what the stats show, but Carcillo was no better handling the puck than Glass, plus he didn't have near the presence/intimidation /protection factor. How can you not see that? We are talking about one of the primary roles of a hard-nosed, grit player that you say you like so much. No...he is not a "talent", but neither was Carcillo - BUT he is light years ahead of him in that 4th line salt. If you're gonna damn Glass for not being Lucic then you must hold Carcillo, or any other player available (to BE THE TOUGHNESS that the Rangers needed) to the game standard. I think the problem is that you are comparing Glass to an imaginary standard which doesn't exist. Glass is better than Carcillo. If he weren't how in the world do you explain AV using him in so many more situations than he did Carcillo??? Stroke? Aneurysm? Or do you believe that you know more than AV? There couldn't be a better measure available than how AV has used each player on his team.
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@DP_Snotty @McPhee37 @Say my Name @rangermom He may not be perfect, but he is an improvement over Carcillo. He is a better fighter, hits more, and has the trust of AV in more situations as proven by him being used in situations where Carcillo wasn't.
If one is to concede that he is an improvement over Carcillo, then there can really be no complaint, can there? The Rangers have improved the result at least of that particular swap.
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@McPhee37 @Say my Name @rangermom Because neither his job, nor its impact is understood by so many - most of all the number crunchers.
Don't worry. AV understands it.
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@rangermom @McPhee37 It's a compliment that he comes after you mom, as you present the case most consistently and better than most. Put it this way, you are driving the discussion and he is responding to the one driving it - very much like what he says is necessary during a game. I really don't think y'all are as far apart as it seems.
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@McPhee37 @rangermom McPhee, quite a few people actually don't get it. I assure you they never played hockey, or boxed...where repeated "unsexy" body shots are instrumental in determining the outcome of a fight, as they cause the hands to drop in later rounds. And I'm not talking about crushing roundhouses to the ribs, just those taps on kidneys that look absolutely meaningless. Muscle in hockey is both the rib shot and the kidney shots.
In their defense, unless you have played, it is almost impossible to describe the impact of something which is impossible to capture in ANY kind of statistical analysis.
Until they take hitting and fighting out of the game (which they may) players like Glass, Malone and ACTS like that which Klein performed last night by standing up for Zucc are huge, both in a game, and in a locker room.
The fact that AV, who is clearly biased toward a "flow" and puck possession game not only has Glass in, but actively sought him out in the offseason, should be all the proof that people need for the validity of your position.
No harm though...everyone is entitled to their opinion.
With you all in spirit. Can't post. Either Livefyre or Kevin is locking me out - both seem equally likely. Please insert stupid, juvenile comments into the thread on my behalf.
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@KevinMccarthy @McPhee37 Yeah, I get it, but people too readily dismiss the importance of the muscle on the ice. They are like the airbag in a car though - they may not help the car go, but if you need them and they ain't there you sure do quickly re-evaluate the need for just about everything else - well in the split second before you go through the windshield.
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Did Duclair change his number to the symbol for infinity??? Tough to live up to, but I appreciate the kid's moxie.
"....and beyond" kid. Go get 'em!
How long is this frikkin' break??? I'm watching competitive underwater basket weaving right now...and I'm into it!! Pretty sure the Korean team is using PED's though. Their fingers are like the creature that comes out of the egg in Alien...and lightning fast...no way that's natural.
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@McPhee37 Haha! Awesome! Did your tongue actually go through your cheek as you typed this???
Couldn't agree more!
Duke and Hags on the same line.?? There's so much speed in that line that Malone would beat the hell out of his dealer if it were sold to him. BAM! ...yeah I went there!
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@Hotfreak @AnnoyingJoe @Say my Name I can give you "1600" reasons why that was a bad idea. It's a black and "White" case. Best run away to a "House" in the woods in "Pennsylvania"
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