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@TySun Yeah Ty I think the Suns generally do not like to play Zone probably because they are a poor rebounding team as it is and playing a zone becomes a problem when suddenly you have to find an opponent to screen off the boards when previous to the shot going up you were in part, just guarding an area on the floor.
1 year, 7 months ago on Preview: Phoenix Suns (21-40) at Sacramento Kings (21-42)
@TySun While I agree Cousins is not very bright, even the most unintelligent baller knows who he has to guard on defense, irrespective of who guards him when he is on offense. There may be a little confusion the 1st or 2nd time down the court but nothing major. I think playing a zone Ty is their best option especially when Scola is out of the game.
I would love to see a Suns victory but I don't expect it. I think their best chance is to play a 2-3 zone defense with the 3 defenders at the bottom to squeeze Cousins.
@BoomShakaLuka Yeah forget the pick and roll Boom with Hamed. There might be a pick but the big fella won't be rolling anywhere on the basketball court. His feet are waaaaaay too slow.
1 year, 7 months ago on Marcin Gortat has sprained foot, out at least 3-4 weeks
@DBreezy I have no clue what they will do DBreezy but I suspect the Suns will lose all of their games until J.O. returns.
The one thing that is clear is that the Suns power forwards have to be the least athletic ones in the league. No hops and no extreme length are a glowing problem for them on defense. Markieff continues to struggle in the low post on offense. We need so much talent I guess it doesn't matter who we draft as long as they can ball (please not another Marshall). I will never understand why Paeyne at Michigan State isn't even listed as a potential draftee at 6'10" great hops, long reach and improving defensive and rebounding skills. I hope he is available with our likely near the end of the 1st round pick and the Suns take him. Actually I think he has underperformed most of his college career which is likely the cause he remains under the radar.
On another note I saw most of the Lakers Hornets game. While my boy Lopez overall played well against Dwight last night in recording a double double, he absolutely fell apart in the 4th quarter. He mishandled 2 passes in the key where he did not score, missed a dunk and had his dunk at the end of the game blocked by Dwight. I doubt New Orleans hit more than one or two field goals in the last 8 minutes of the game. The Lakers really are not playing that great it is just that Utah and Houston are choking.
1 year, 7 months ago on Toronto Raptors 98, Phoenix Suns 71 – Crashing down
@TySun I agree TySun the suns win either way. I have already set my sights on Oladipo or Porter (Georgetown), who could be available 3 through 7. I love Oladipo's motor, defense and athleticism whereas I love Porter's all around game. HE does not have exceptional athleticism but is long and can effectively play both wing positions. He killed Syracuse about a week ago and they are a pretty good defensive team.. Either of these guys or Kentucky's center, Noel, out with a torn ACL, would make for an excellent summer.
1 year, 7 months ago on Preview: Toronto Raptors (23-38) at Phoenix Suns (21-39)
This should be a fun game to watch as Toronto actually has an exciting young team. They had Golden State on the ropes for awhile the other night. The Suns keep winning if Gortat mans up. If he plays soft like he has often this year, the Suns will lose as Amir Johnson is a beast for Toronto on the boards.
@ojai1980 I agree Ojai, he would drive me crazy with how he plays. I do not want my power forward shooting 3 pointers on a regular basis. When he threw the ball away at the end of the game I wanted to strangle him. Let someone else sign the headache for max dollars. Move on Suns.
1 year, 7 months ago on Dispatches from Sloan – The future of the Suns’ training staff
Duke v Univ of Miami at 3pm PST should be a good game today.
1 year, 7 months ago on Phoenix Suns 92, Atlanta Hawks 87 — Newcomers to the rescue
@DBreezy Dbreezy that is funny about the Hawks because I have never respected the front of the team and consequently the players either. While I agree only Dragic today is safe from being traded, a few more good offensive and defensive games from W.Johnson and he may find himself getting a reserve roster spot. I love his defense. Tom Chambers was commenting last night in the post game that Johnson has the tools to be an elite player in the league at the 2 guard. Getting Marcus for a 2nd round draft choice looks like a good deal but I doubt he is untradeable.
The reason I like Marcus Morris and Johnson on the wings is even when their jump shot isn't falling they can defend because they are athletic and play intelligent basketball. I think this is why I like O. Porter from Georgetown and Oladipo because they can score and defend.
I love the tough games against playoff contenders like Portland, San Antonio and Atlanta. It shows the young guns how to channel your emotions to raise your level of play. Man if Johnson and Marcus Morris keep playing like this do the Suns focus on finding a big with their own draft pick instead of a scoring wing? Johnson is really impressive especially on defense. Hopefully he keeps becoming more aggressive offensively. Ojai yeah Nerlens being long and athletic would be nice. I also like Michigan State's Payne especially if we get the Laker's pick in the lottery. Gortat is so frustrating. I hope we can get a 1st round pick for the guy this summer. He is being outplayed by someone 5 years older just about every night.
Dbreezy you got to love it don't you? It is like the Suns playoff run. It gives them a taste of success to make them work harder this summer.
@john manhole @bkkkkkkkk Probably right John about Gentry as he caused me to scream at the TV many nights with his conservative coaching.
1 year, 7 months ago on Phoenix Suns 105, San Antonio Spurs 101 (OT) — O'Neal takes over
@DBreezy I could not agree with ya more DeBreezy. Dragic has to be smarter picking up those fouls against a scrub. I too am not overly concerned with where we draft as it appears we are destined for a top 3-7 spot.
Regarding what will make the Suns a playoff contender, IMO it will take at least two things, a power forward who averages at least 9 boards a game who is better than average in defending the low post and an athletic scoring wing who can defend. While Marcus could be a decent small forward, IMO neither of the twins will ever be an everyday starting power forward because they are probably only 6'8" without exceptional bulk or athleticism. It is easy to see why Markieff gets in foul trouble defending the low post.
With Gortat likely to leave this summer we will also have to secure a decent center. If O'Neal is inked to a 2 year deal we can get a young center to grove over the next two seasons. I am impressed with O'Neal in part due to his health and play but more so because he could have been bought out and moved on to a playoff contender but he chose to stick it out and get more playing time in Phoenix. It is that type of character along with confronting Blanks that in my mind makes you a leader who gives the locker room attitude (chip on their shoulder) and confidence. I did not think much of the summer signing of O'Neal due to his history of injuries but I was dead wrong.
@JohnDevance I think they will trade him John because he will likely leave with nothing in return the following summer.
Best win of the season by far. O'Neal could be worthy of a 2 year contract especially when Gortat leaves this summer. O'Neal looks incredible. I also think Marcus Morris and Wesley Johnson are both very smart players. Wesley J did a really good job defending Parker in the 4th quarter and overtime. The jumper was great but I was more impressed with his defense as the Spurs were in the bonus and he defended without a lot of fouls. They had to put Johnson on Parker in the 4th quarter because Dragic had 5 fouls. Nice coaching tonight Hunter.
Yeah it did not improve our lottery chances but I think there is starting NBA caliber players at picks 1-7 so I am not overly concerned as long as we get a top 7 pick. Confidence and learning how to play in tight games is great experience.
Stone hands Gortat almost blew it when he wasn't ready for Dragic to pass it to him despite the fact he was wide open at the elbow. He must have been thinking about a woman at the time.
Anyway great night Suns.
@bkkkkkkkk Excellent point Bkkkkkkk. Gentry was just too conservative to do anything unconventional like playing 2 7 footers together. Props to Hunter for not being afraid to use whatever talent he has on the bench.
@DBreezy Tonight's game is the one I am afraid to watch. This will be a true SCARY MOVIE.
1 year, 7 months ago on Phoenix Suns 84, Minnesota Timberwolves 83 (OT) -- Winning ugly
@SkyBill40 SkyBill in a way I agree with you that Brown is getting the short end of the stick but he probably realizes he is not part of the big picture for the future. I do not think he is as good a defender and rebounder as Johnson. Whether Johnson is as good a shooter remains to be seen as Brown. I think Brown is having a sub par year shooting.
I think the big problem this issue presents is why would a decent free agent come to the Suns this summer while they are still rebuilding knowing they too could be benched next season so the team can learn what they have in a rookie or second year player. This is a dangerous game to play in totally shutting down Brown. I hope in a couple of weeks they give Brown some time and maybe sit Dudley for a week. It is really tough because Hunter is fighting for a job while auditioning players. They have to make a tough decision on whether to extend Johnson this summer.
@Kevin Zimmerman Kev, I saw him in the summer league and commented on Coro's blog that I thought Garrett was better than Marshall whom I saw a lot of at UNC.
1 year, 7 months ago on Preview: Minnesota Timberwolves (20-33) at Phoenix Suns (18-39)
@IowaPhXfan Great breakdown Iowa. I might not take him with a top 5 pick but if we get the Lakers pick I would consider using it on Payne. Actually the only reason I would not use a top 5 on Payne is because the Suns badly need a scorer and that is the strength of this otherwise suspect draft. However we AGREE this guy can help the Suns a lot. If the Suns got Payne and a scorer in this draft I would be a real happy camper. I could live with Oladipo (excuse spelling) and Payne in the 1st round.
1 year, 7 months ago on Goran Dragic needs help; Suns' lack of deals an NBA trend
I do see something in Garrett to make me believe he can blossom.
I just do not see how Marshall and Markieff can blossom. Clark blossoming, while certainly not guaranteed, was foreseeable because of his physical attributes, i.e., athleticism, 6'10' tall, good perimeter defense and decent handles, all made him a project worth keeping. Marshall and Markief do not do anything particularly well IMO and do not have any outstanding physical attributes. Marshall passing the ball on the perimeter does not make him a good passer.
@IowaPhXfan Iowa, with this being a really weak draft for bigs, I think you are right that he can sneak into the mid 1st round. A week or two ago he wasn't even picked to go in the 2nd round. A lot of so-called experts were down on him because he had so much hype coming out of high school and has not lived up to it.
I get upset every time I think about how the Suns passed on John Henson in the 2012 draft in favor K Marshall. Stupid mistakes like that make 2013 a wasted season so far. We still would have been awful this year but Henson would have gotten quality playing time which would have improved his play. I hope Garrett gets most of the backup point guard minutes so at least we develop someone this year.
Hawk, we are moving on up in the lottery. Check out Payne on Michigan State for a possible late 1st round or 2nd round pick (I think we are out of early 2nd round picks). He has probably underachieved in college but he is starting to ball. 6'10" with 7'4" arm span, good rebounder, excellent hops with a decent stroke.
We simply are not good enough to compete against the Celtics and Spurs junior varsity teams. Keep the spirited practices Hunter, they cannot hurt. These losses do show however we need an athletic power forward with size who can rebound. Beasley, Markieff and Scola are all bad defenders. It also shows we badly need a scorer who can create his own shot and that Garrett has a better upside than lottery pick Marshall.. The sooner we accept these facts, at least internally acknowledge the screwups or the source thereof and plan accordingly, the sooner we can turn this ship around.
Yeah it hurts that we look like the bad news bears of basketball fouling what 3 times on 3 point jump shots but we are a terrible team that needs a face lift. Markieff will never be a starting power forward so let's move on from that experiment.. I am interested if Marcus can be decent at the 3 spot. Dudley is a good role player but really not a starter unless you have a team full of scorers. Hopefully Gortat has a number of good games so his market value will increase this summer. To his credit he really played Duncan tough last night. However he is moving on so let's get something good for him. It is painful but I can live with it if management is learning something.
1 year, 8 months ago on San Antonio Spurs 97, Phoenix Suns 87 -- No small victories
@DBreezy @4everis2long I am not mad at you. When I lived in Sacramento for 3 years I spent numerous weekends in the Bay area. Great place to hang out. It looks like Warriors will have an awesome arena I think next season that will make the Bay area even more attractive for hoops fans.
1 year, 8 months ago on Preview: San Antonio Spurs (44-13) at Phoenix Suns (18-38)
@DBreezy It is pretty funny when teams now look at the Suns as a JV team. The Suns need to earn some respect at least from the standpoint where teams know they will play hard and smart. I do not blame PoP at all. The Suns are pathetic with Gortat playing so soft.
Did you see Payne for Michigan State today against Ohio? I hope the Suns have him on their radar for an early 2nd round pick unless he shows well enough in post season tournaments to warrant a late 1st round pick. I think he had 10 points and 14 boards. He is 6'10" with a 7'4" wingspan with a decent stroke.
@TySun I am a Mclemore, Otto Porter and Oladipo guy. While I like Bennet the couple of recent games I have seen him play he is not that good defensively. Same goes for Shabazz.
1 year, 8 months ago on Boston Celtics 113, Phoenix Suns 88 -- Another blowout
EXACTLY Steppx,Hawki,Boom Boom and Sky. The Suns are a travesty like Skybill said. Losing to Celtics scrubs in Phoenix and listening to the Celtics announcers at half time say the Suns are the worst team in basketball, is disheartening to say the least. I am glad that it appears even Hunter is now of the mindset to play Garrett. Garrett and every point guard in the NBA is better than Marshall. Whoever sold the Suns on that lottery pick should be read their last rights. I wish the league would take over the franchise.
I missed most of the 1st half, did W. Johnson play at least 10 minutes? I did watch the last 6 minutes of the half on the Boston feed. At halftime, Boston announcers said the Suns were the worst team they have seen all year. Ouch
1 year, 8 months ago on Preview: Boston Celtics (28-26) at Phoenix Suns (18-37)
@effyewe I pretty much agree about Beasley being one of the few Suns who can get his own shot. I hope he gets at least 20 minutes a night for the rest of the season. I do not care what they say about the Morris twins, Beasley has far greater upside than either one of them and should play more. IMO neither of the Morris twins is a real NBA starting caliber power forward. The only thing that intrigues me about Morris is whether he can be converted to a legitimate small forward.
Yeah with regards to Marshall, I too can barely stand to watch him. He may be the most do nothing point guard I have ever seen, which is why I begged the Suns not to draft the stiff. If only we had taken John Henson instead.
1 year, 8 months ago on Marcus Morris trade adds another future asset at low cost
I want to continue seeing Wes Johnson get considerable playing time. The guy has really good form on his jump shot and is very athletic. While he can improve his ball handling skills, his confidence should really start growing with more time, making him a fairly valuable commodity. I just want to see him in 30 days after he averages about 25 minutes a night.
Personally I doubt there is any hope for Markieff and his real twin, Kendall but let them play and maybe someone will give us a 2nd round pick for them in the summer. I also wish we can give Garrett some time between now and season end but it probably will not happen. Anyway I hope Dragic continues to shine and Gortat wakes up so he too can be traded this summer. Right now we might not get two Corn Flakes box tops for the guy.
@DBreezy @4everis2long Danny Manning. When you think about it DBreezy, most of them have been a let down.
1 year, 8 months ago on Sebastian Telfair traded to Raptors for Hamed Haddadi
@DBreezy @4everis2long One other thing it is telling me DBreezy is, there are some coaches who do not think much of University of Kansas forwards, at least not recently. All three, Robinson, Morris and Morris have trouble defensively, though Marcus is a better player than the stiff the Suns drafted. Does K. Marshall have a brother we can start scouting?. If he does, I know for a fact he cannot be worse than Kendall.
I am just glad we did not trade any 1st round picks.
@ojai1980 I read somewhere it was the Suns own 2nd round pick. I definitely agree with ya about Gortat killing his value. OKC probably had some interest considering how Miami destroyed them and they lost to Houston last night but Gortat has not shown anything recently.. He looks more like the Polish Sausage than the Polish Hammer.
1 year, 8 months ago on Luke Zeller released by Suns to complete Marcus Morris deal
I would have been even happier with a second round pick or simply a pick for future consideration for Marshall.
@hawki You have got to improve your accuracy Hawk if we are going to count on you. Regarding Wear twins, you know Blanks has marked his calendar for the Pac 10 tournament to get a closer look at them.
On a more serious note, I sure wish we had kept that second round pick yesterday to consider drafting Payne, the power forward from Michigan State. I just have a hunch he is going to be a sleeper. Then again he could be available late in the 2nd round. If the Suns do not make a trade today, I have no idea why they traded for Marcus, other than the fact they could.
1 year, 8 months ago on Golden State Warriors 108, Phoenix Suns 98 – Back to reality
@BoomShakaLuka I said on the other sight, he may be the most do nothing point guard I have ever seen in the NBA.. I still cannot believe last night with about one second left on the 24 second clock, he passed the ball instead of shooting it. the Suns were fooled by statistics in drafting this guy. There are probably 12 unemployed ex-college players who could come in and perform better than Marshall.
@the real shazam Yeah Shazam Gortat looks terrible. If the Suns can get anything of significance for him now I will be surprised. How can the Suns consider buying out the best center on the team? Please Suns do not engage in that type of conduct Suns as IMO it would undermine the spirit of competition in putting your best players on the court instead of in the stands.
Regarding Suns consecutive lottery picks Morris and Marshall, they may be the absolute worst lottery picks that any team has had in back to back seasons. Morris does nothing well and Marshall might be the most do nothing point guard I have ever seen. I hope one of them will be moved tomorrow. Marcus is the better of the twins but neither one IMO is an everyday starter at the 4 spot.
If the Suns buy out J. O'neal, who is actually better than Gortat, what is that telling the fans? Let's hope tomorrow makes sense because we all know we have seen too many senseless moves in recent years.
1 year, 8 months ago on Suns trade rumors: Rockets' Marcus Morris traded to Phoenix
@TySun That is definitely true with regards to the Lakers. If the Lakers make the playoffs, we get Miami's 1st round pick. We only get the Lakers 1st round pick if they do not make the playoffs. I know there is another potential 1st round pick out there but I thought it had to do if Minnesota made the playoffs because the pick is lottery protected. It could be one affiliated with Memphis but I am not familiar with it.
1 year, 8 months ago on Phoenix Suns 102, Portland Trail Blazers 98 -- The dying embers of the fire
@bkkkkkkkk I meant to say "appreciably better" but was sending a text at the same time. At least that is my story and I am sticking to it.
@bkkkkkkkk I think he is better than Marshall. However I understand the Suns playing Marshall because they hope they can trade him or he gets appreciable better substantiating the pick. Since they are not going anywhere soon, Garrett is not a priority today.
Ok I get the idiot award for the day. It was this Suns article by Weisert that talked about Marshall's lack of confidence.
@DBreezy DBreezy, I saw this morning that Coro is lending some credence to the rumor that would net the Suns a 1st round pick, Lamb and Perkins. I could be wrong but without Harden I do not think OKC can beat Miami without another scoring option, which I think Gortat gives them. Who knows if the trigger is pulled but I sure hope the Suns do the deal if OKC is a willing participant.. If the Suns could pick up another 1st round pick and get J. Lamb, I may consider dancing in my underwear and boots in Times Square.
Man, I know you were coming from playing hoops last night and may not have noticed but they said early in the telecast that Dragic had been to Cabo during the allstar break. Considering how well he played, if Cabo can do that for your basketball game, I am booking a trip right now. Dragic was very good last night.
I do not know if Hunter is the coaching answer yet but I do like the fact he can think outside of the box. I have seen him try O'Neal and Gortat together and last night he initially played Wesley Johnson at the 2 spot. Personally I like him there because he will probably have a size advantage over most twos and he has shown he is not afraid to pull up on them to shoot his jumper.
I also saw an article/comments, maybe it was Coro but not certain, talking about how tentative Marshall was last night. They could not have been more accurate as his lack of confidence strangles the offense when he plays like that.
I am going to Cabo immediately after the game to see if I can kick start my bball game. Dragic is a beast tonight. Wow!
1 year, 8 months ago on Preview: Phoenix Suns (17-36) at Portland Trail Blazers (25-28)