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SEC supposedly wants to expand into markets like Virginia and North Carolina and add AAU members. ACC teams likely want to stay together, just in a more profitable conference. And SEC and Big 12 possibly want to strengthen alliance. What if SEC and Big 12 take on the ACC together by:
SEC expands to 18 teams by adding Virginia, Virginia Tech, North Carolina and Duke. SEC could go to 3 divisions if desired.
Big 12 expands to 18 teams by adding 8 other ACC teams such as Miami, Florida St, Georgia Tech, Clemson, NC State, Louisville, Pitt and Syracuse. Big 12 splits into east division (these 8 and West Va) and west division.
SEC expands to 9 conference games plus 1 game against a Big 12 team each year (5 home games, 5 away), with many of the interconference games being annual matches between traditional rivals.
Big 10 is trapped with only Wake and Boston College left.
Big 12 gets the better deal in some ways (huge footprint, football powerhouses, and some Big East rivalries reborn).
SEC guarantees control of Virginia and North Carolina and doesn't water itself down by expanding to 20 plus teams.
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I'm not trying to get every possible combination, just enough combinations that everyone else is in your division at some point. A1 will not be with B1 and C2 at the same time ever, but each of these three will get together with each other in other combinations.
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Let A1, B1, C1, A2, B2, C2, A3, B3, C3 each represent pairs of teams.
YEAR 1: (each column is a division)
A1 A2 A3
B1 B2 B3
C1 C2 C3
YEAR 2 (or three if playing home and away before rotating)
A1 A2 A3
B2 B3 B1
C3 C1 C2
YEAR 3 (or five)
A1 A2 A3
B3 B1 B2
C2 C3 C1
If you do a year four (or seven) - again you can skip this step and play these teams outside the division if you want a tighter rotation, but you would get fewer rivalry games:
A1 B1 C1
A2 B2 C2
A3 B3 C3
Now just figure out who the letter number combos might represent. Let's say the SEC took 4 ACC schools, the pairings might be:
Alabama and Miss St.
LSU and Ole Miss
A&M and Missouri
Auburn and Arkansas
Georgia and Vandy
Florida and Kentucky
Tennessee and ACC team
South Carolina and ACC team
2 ACC teams
You can pair them up in some other way. I just tried to look at historical strength, current strength, geography, and long-term play against each other.
Everyone would then get additional rivalry games. Most would have to have at least 1 rivalry with a new addition, but everyone could protect at least their 3 to 5 most valuable long-term rivalries.
If you want, you can make division games count more than non-division so that a team with really difficult rivalries is not unfairly penalized (like Auburn with Georgia, Alabama and Florida) or so a team like Tennessee can keep both Kentucky and Vandy (although Alabama offsets that).
@AllTideUp @JRsec @cjhadley @vp81955 I know it looks crazy at first, but you can actually create 3 rotating divisions with 18 teams. The goal is to play everyone twice within 6 to 8 years while maintaining as many long-term or geographic rivals as possible. The teams are each paired with a permanent rival in 9 similarly compeptitive pods (pair a stronger team with a weaker rival). It is possible to rotate so that every pod is in your division every fourth time. This gives you 5 division games (but only 1 rival always in division). If you play 8 games per year, you get 3 outside-division rival games; since those teams will occasionally be in your division, it actually means 4 more rivals for a total of 5 rival games. If you go to 9 games, even more rival games. Or if you go to 9 games, you can rotate through everyone twice in 6 years (4 teams will have to be played without ever ending up in your division) and still have a total of 5 rival games. The math really does work. Imagine everyone choosing 3 to 5 of their biggest rivals rather than complaining that they were stuck in the wrong division or too strong a division.