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I'm less down on Fleener for dropping that pass than I am for the tendency to just not often (ever, seemingly) haul in passes in tight coverage. If you breathe on the guy, he's going to drop it. Great option when wide-open. When asking him to make a catch in traffic or absorb a hit, though, it gets ugly.
7 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://coltsauthority.com/
"This is great, but we need to figure out more ways to get our third-string FB options involved in these plays" — offensive coaches, probably.
1 year, 6 months ago on Andrew Luck's Houdini Moments: An Escapist's Archive
@Nate Dunlevy Derp. I meant ATL. But of course, that's after the sample size you're considering. My bad.
3 years, 4 months ago on Painter v. Orlovsky
Does Painter get credit for the defensive score vs Cincy?
@mshah9008 That last sentence...what?!
3 years, 4 months ago on Colts fire Coyer
@Nate Dunlevy And minus Justin Tryon. And without any safety depth. And from a 2010 defense that wasn't playoff caliber to begin with (as many of my breakdowns showed vs Cowboys, Jets, Patriots, etc.) Was a mediocre group that got worse.
@Nate Dunlevy Disagree on the deck not being as short as it looks. Worst DT, DB corps in the NFL. Drake Nevis is the only possible starting-caliber DT, and he's only played a handful of games. Powers and Bethea only starting caliber DBs. I'll lose no sleep over Coyer being fired—I was writing this should have happened after the playoff loss to the Jets—but this is a defense severely lacking in talent, and not really due to injury as it was in 2010.
Not surprised, and folks have to start being held accountable (Coyer, Painter are hardly the beginning and end of that list), but let's also be realistic about what he was working with: a DT group that features one legitimate DT who is also injured and a DB group with two legitimate players in Bethea and Powers. I'm not opposed to the firing at all, but Polian(s) deserve a big bite of this pie as well for giving Coyer such a short deck to work with.
@etid5353@Stew Blake Not an apologist. As I said, I would have used full quote if I wrote something on it, but that was just me. Regardless, you seem to put a lot of effort into hating one blogger. Why not just ignore his stuff if it upsets you so much? Honest question.
This is a semantics debate from here, and you're not saying anything I'm not in terms of misquoted vs out-of-context. But my take on this remains unchanged: if Saturday didn't want to be perceived as calling out his coach, he should have never said they got "out-coached". This is on him just as much, if not more, than any writers or reporters reacting to him.
I also think it's weird how revisionist local media has been here. WTHR couldn't point this out fast enough on (technically Mon AM), but no one is quick to point a finger at their reaction. Ditto a few other local media personalities. I'll give you that they didn't write anything nearly as authoritative as Wells, but still, they reacted decidedly toward the "out-coached" remark.
Also kinda weird how some local media insist on playing Saturday's PR team. Some, not all. Just another reminder that these guys are lucky as hell to play in Indianapolis.
3 years, 6 months ago on Saturday Calls Out 45-year-old, Basement Dwelling Bloggers
@Stew Blake I think a full quote would be needed for any article or report, but BBS does some great stuff and I wouldn't presume to tell him how to write. I'm thinking even if he did include the full quote, though, it wouldn't have made a huge difference. Saying you got out-coached is saying you got out-coached. It's not said accidentally, and it's not buffered by prefacing that you also got out-played. Did Saturday solely blame the coaches? No. He's a man, he took personal responsibility with the rest of the players. Did Saturday blame the coaches? Yes. He said they got out-coached.
I can understand to some extent why he's upset. But I wonder if BBS' thoughts on the matter (and related article) would be ANY different had he include the full quote. I think criticism would be just the same. And I think it's ridiculous that Saturday is going to take shots at "bloggers" when he's coming off a historic loss and needs to be keep focus on the problems in the locker room, not outside of it.
Just to clarify, I was watching the Rich Nye interview live. When Saturday said "out-coached" and whoever was back in WTHR studio took note of it, I just said that things were about to get really interesting in the Colts' locker room, in regards to the media's reaction to this quote. I wasn't the first to report this quote—that was Nye, and any assortment of folks watching WTHR who had computer access before I did. I just mused that a media (expletive) storm was inevitable after he dropped that bomb.
Just asking you don't attribute that quote to my reporting in any way, because I didn't report the quote. I said, exactly after WTHR had mused on its significance, that Jeff Saturday had dropped the "out-coached" bomb and things were about to get very interesting in the Colts' ho-hum locker room. Wasn't representing anything out of context, just predicting the inevitable media response to it.
All that said...I don't feel sorry for Saturday at all. He should only be upset at himself. It sounds like it was perhaps taken out of context in some instances beyond that initial reaction/tweeting/live reporting, but if he didn't want folks accusing him of calling out Caldwell, he should have NEVER used the word "out-coached". In any syntax.
@dmstorm22 @Nate Dunlevy @kingingrate Lacey cannot play man. That's why Edwards torched him for the decisive play in the AFC Wildcard loss. Powers can play man. Hayden is inconsistent in man. Tryon can play man, but not as well as Powers. Lacey, however, is dreadful in man coverage. As he should be...he's basically a CB4.
3 years, 12 months ago on The Wrong Lesson?